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MH - 19 Aug 2004 03:03 GMT
Anyone here attend USToo meetings in your area??
I went to a first meeting last night... and was a bit disappointed.

Just wondering if anyone here belongs to a really good organization like
that?

Take care!
MikeH
Glenn Enoch - 19 Aug 2004 12:10 GMT
I like the Us Too mtg here -- good speakers, well-attended,
effectively led.  However, there are other support groups you might
try, such as Man to Man, under auspices of American Cancer Society.  
There's also a group called Malecare Inc. at some hospitals (I'm not
personally familiar with this one).  You might consider checking
individual hospitals in your area or use this website to check in your
area: http://www.cancerfacts.com/SupportGroups.asp?CB=14

> Anyone here attend USToo meetings in your area??
> I went to a first meeting last night... and was a bit disappointed.
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> Take care!
> MikeH
Steve Kramer - 23 Aug 2004 02:04 GMT
I belong to a prostate cancer group that is pretty good.  It was started by
Robert Young.  Though, I rarely attend.  It's pretty good and it also has
meetings on separate nights for wives.

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> Anyone here attend USToo meetings in your area??
> I went to a first meeting last night... and was a bit disappointed.
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> Take care!
> MikeH
MrBill - 23 Aug 2004 14:23 GMT
What area are you from?  
The group I belong to is GREAT.  We meet the 3rd Tuesday of every
month at the Las Colinas Medical Center, Irving, TX.  There is always
a Dr. residing to oversee the program and able to answer any questions
that the designated speaker for the month cannot answer.  If you get
there early, the sponsoring pharmaceutical company provides catered
food for the group.  I think that probably encourages the numbers.  We
have different speakers every month that pertain to every aspect that
can effect or enhance the PCa patient.
All are welcome and spouses included (they are effected by PCa and
need support also).
If Irving Texas is not too far, Come on Down!
MrBill

> Anyone here attend USToo meetings in your area??
> I went to a first meeting last night... and was a bit disappointed.
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> Take care!
> MikeH
MH - 23 Aug 2004 22:27 GMT
> What area are you from?

> If Irving Texas is not too far, Come on Down!
> MrBill

Thanks, MrBill.... but Irving is quite a distance from Georgia. :))

MikeH
Beverley - 25 Aug 2004 04:13 GMT
Sounds like you've got a great group. Seems that varies from place to place.
Some groups are terrific and some just so-so. What is important is the
amount of information the group can provide and the amount of support they
can give.

We are very candid out here (newsgroup) in mixed company, how does that go
when you are face to face?  You guys just don't see me blush, I'm not sure I
could be as forthcoming face to face. Although there are so many guys out
here I'd love to meet but then I've known most of them for quite a long
while. I can't imagine being so "open" in mixed company.
Bev

> What area are you from?
> The group I belong to is GREAT.  We meet the 3rd Tuesday of every
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> > Take care!
> > MikeH
MH - 25 Aug 2004 11:33 GMT
> We are very candid out here (newsgroup) in mixed company, how does that go
> when you are face to face?  You guys just don't see me blush, I'm not sure
> I
> could be as forthcoming face to face. Although there are so many guys out
> here I'd love to meet but then I've known most of them for quite a long
> while. I can't imagine being so "open" in mixed company.

I certainly think wives should be included.  Interesting, tho, that someone
mentioned that there is a group that has a separate group *just for
wives*.... but there is none mentioned *just for the guys*.  Was kinda
hoping.

MikeH
JerryW - 26 Aug 2004 01:51 GMT
Mike,

Our "Man to Man" group meets every third Tuesday. Men only. We discussed
groups that have "coed" meetings, but most felt more comfortable discussing
some of these issues just among us guys. Interestingly, one of the guys who
had attended a mixed support group meeting said most of the men were pretty
quiet...not the wives, though!

This is not to say we don't all realize that PCa is not just something that
happens to us...it happens to our loved ones as well. Fortunately, Bev, "you
guys" don't see me blush, either. I've just gotten used to discussing some
of these things with my wife...not sure I'm up to discussing them face to
face with several other guys' wives.
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> > We are very candid out here (newsgroup) in mixed company, how does that go
> > when you are face to face?  You guys just don't see me blush, I'm not sure
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>
> MikeH
MH - 26 Aug 2004 02:51 GMT
There doesn't seem to be a Man to Man group in the Augusta area.
Just the USToo.

Would be nice to have a *guys group* to share and sound off with.

Take care!
MikeH

> Mike,
>
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> of these things with my wife...not sure I'm up to discussing them face to
> face with several other guys' wives.
JerryW - 26 Aug 2004 23:51 GMT
Mike,

I believe Man to Man is sponsored by the American Cancer Society. Have you
tried them for the location of a group near you?
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> There doesn't seem to be a Man to Man group in the Augusta area.
> Just the USToo.
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> > of these things with my wife...not sure I'm up to discussing them face to
> > face with several other guys' wives.
MH - 27 Aug 2004 02:08 GMT
Hi, Jerry....
Yes.  The closest Man to Man group is in Atlanta.  I live in Augusta.  The
only group here is the USToo group that I attended.  But maybe it will be
better the next time.

MikeH :)

> Mike,
>
> I believe Man to Man is sponsored by the American Cancer Society. Have you
> tried them for the location of a group near you?
Beverley - 27 Aug 2004 14:21 GMT
Jerry, I don't think you are alone when it comes to discussing things with
your wife. I think the communications between many couples lack. Then
something like PC will either force the issue or cause serious problems due
to lack of communications. Being able to talk about it is half the battle.
Just being able to say "what can I do?" or "how can I make it better?" makes
a big difference.

But discussing things behind closed bedroom doors or with the cloak of the
internet is a whole lot different from being face to face with strangers. Or
maybe worse yet, if you live in a small town running into people you know.
There is this whole macho thing attached to PC. Men have a self image that
they don't think about but rather assume. They don't want anyone, especially
the other sex, to think or know that their "manhood" has been compromised in
any way.

Wondering, too, how many men or women lurk here hoping to find some
information that will help them because they cannot bring themselves to
discuss any of it? This is a difficult subject for most of us to tackle
openly. And if you polled the newsgroup you'd probably find the vast
majority of the contributors to be well-educated with good communication
skills and we often find it difficult to find the right words. So what
happens to the father of four who digs ditches for a living, probably never
finished high school, doesn't own a computer, and thinks vas deferens is
some fancy French food? What we need is not just a good support system but
we need men to get out there and talk to their friends, fellow members of
their places of worship, etc. I doubt there is a woman alive who is not
aware of breast cancer but how many men know nothing about prostate cancer?
We've got to get this subject out of the closet!! But we are right back to
the problem that the biggest side effect of treatment is such a taboo
subject especially in mixed company.
Bev

> Mike,
>
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> > MikeH
 
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