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Good Bye PSA Tests ?

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Canada Bob - 16 Aug 2004 00:32 GMT
Looks like we now have a more reliable test then the
old PSA test, click on the link below for the info.

http://www.biotechfind.com/news/news-3611.htm

Canada Bob.
Vernon - 16 Aug 2004 01:44 GMT
Hi Bob

This is a strange new test.   You have to have just had a prostate biopsy,
and then given a urine sample to get prostate cells that have come loose and
will be flushed out with the urine, in order to have this new test done on
the urine.

But, wouldn't the biopsy give an unequivocal answer if the biopsied area was
sampled?  and that IS a condition for the new test to work.   It seems that
if the sampled area, from which cells will be loosened, does not have cancer
cells, then the cells in the urine will not show cancer.   So, the area
sampled must have cancer cells before the new test is positive.

Am I correct?

Vernon

> Looks like we now have a more reliable test then the
> old PSA test, click on the link below for the info.
>
> http://www.biotechfind.com/news/news-3611.htm
>
> Canada Bob.
Leonard Evens - 16 Aug 2004 03:20 GMT
> Hi Bob
>
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> cells, then the cells in the urine will not show cancer.   So, the area
> sampled must have cancer cells before the new test is positive.

Perhaps you  saw something I didn't, but the report doesn't seem to say
that the test only works on men who have had a biopsy.  I would guess it
would work simply by obtaining a urine sample and looking for the
telltale marker.  Note however that it probably won't mean the end of
PSA testing because although it apparently catches the great majority of
cancers,  it does miss some.   It also looks as if it might be
expensive.  I would guess it would be used after a PSA test suggested
something suspicious and before a biopsy.   In some cases,  they might
go ahead with the biopsy even if this test was negative.

> Am I correct?
>
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>>Canada Bob.
Vernon - 16 Aug 2004 12:00 GMT
Hi Leonard

You are indeed correct, and I was in error.   The urine sample taking
follows a DRE.   Must be a vigorous one.

Vernon

> > Hi Bob
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> >>Canada Bob.
 
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