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David  S. - 08 Aug 2004 02:42 GMT
   I was going to entitle this "See Buttercup nude" just to fit in with the
majority of the posts here lately.  Anybody know what is going on with all
the crap that is showing up?  I am seeing this in other newsgroups, like
microsoft.public... and they are all the same - "See Britany's tits", etc.
   I hope all the new guys know not to open crap like that.  I am starting
week four of dealing with a virus/worm/trojan that Heather is helping me
diagnose, but so far no luck.  Opening one of the "see my daughters hairy
bush" posts could put you in the same boat as me (I know better than to open
those, so I am pretty sure that is not how I got my infection).  The email
still works, and newsgroups as you can see, but the IE browser is dead in
the water (except, interestingly enough, the bank web site opens just fine -
think that odd??).  I did install Firefox, and it works fine.  Wonder if
those jokers are the authors of the virus, just to get new business?
   Anyway,  I missed my anniversary of the RRP, August 1st, because of
battling this sh.t.  Last year cancer.  this year a computer virus.   It was
easier to get rid of the cancer!   A very big THANK YOU to Heather and her
friends for trying to help me though.  I do not know where I would be
without them.
   Sorry for taking up cyber space with another off topic post.  I am
scheduled for a cysto on August 23rd to see if they can find something to
fix.  Wonder if one little bit of scar tissue could be the cause of a year's
leaking?  No sign of life in Wille either.  On medicine for high blood
pressure for three weeks now, and so far it has not brought it down.  Looks
like he will put me on something else when I go back for my first follow up
visit.  Just frustrated.
   Take care all.  Thank you.
David S.
Steve Kramer - 08 Aug 2004 03:38 GMT
I hope you didn't open the new US Bank scam.

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Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .07 .05
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03, 4/04
non illegitimi carborundum

>     I was going to entitle this "See Buttercup nude" just to fit in with the
> majority of the posts here lately.  Anybody know what is going on with all
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>     Take care all.  Thank you.
> David S.
David  S. - 08 Aug 2004 22:34 GMT
Steve:
   Don't recognize that one, so I don't think so.  One thing I did do,
however, is do one of the automatic Microsoft updates that my computer tells
me about.  I think my problem started about then.  When this all started I
wondered if I fell for a bogus alert from what I thought was Microsoft.
This was not an email, but the window that pops up and says that there are
updates available.  Then, after the download, it comes up with a message
that there are updates ready to install.  Other than that I know better than
to open anything that looks suspicious, ad's from unfamiliar sources, and so
forth.  Just not sure where I got this, and at this point not too sure what
additional protection software I need over and above what I already have??
   Thank you.
David S.
> I hope you didn't open the new US Bank scam.
>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> >     Take care all.  Thank you.
> > David S.
Steve Kramer - 08 Aug 2004 23:45 GMT
The USBank scan is similar to the ones you've seen, I'm sure, like eBay,
PayPal, etc.  They tell you there is a problem with your account and ask you
to click on a hypertext like, www.usbank.com\security.  Where it takes you
is up to the crook.  It can send you a virus when you click on the
hypertext, or take you to another page that looks like a real page asking
for all your personal data, or load on your PC spyware or some sort of
take-over software.

There is a recent one I heard of that gets into a MS IE flaw.  All you have
to do is have your PC turned on and IE open.  But if you've updated your MS
IE recently, that's not it.

The window that comes up and says it's time to check your MS programs is
legit, so far as I know, but some day I'm sure someone will come up with a
fake pop-up.  So, when I see that pop-up, I ignore it then go to my own
START menu and activate the check.

Signature

Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .07 .05
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03, 4/04
non illegitimi carborundum

> Steve:
>     Don't recognize that one, so I don't think so.  One thing I did do,
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
> > >     Take care all.  Thank you.
> > > David S.
Heather - 09 Aug 2004 02:31 GMT
Hi David....

Your popup (as Steve advised) is quite legitimate.....that is part of WinME
and XP.  I have it turned off because....

a) I go to Windows Update myself, and
b) I get Security Bulletins from Microsoft when a new patch or fix comes
out.  With XP, you have a hell of a lot more than I do with ME.

For all the flak and teasing that I get for using WinME, I much prefer it
for the reason that the virus writers are targetting XP and NT.....and
frankly there is not much that goes wrong with it that needs patching.

However, it is getting a bit long in the tooth and I have had XP Home
sitting here still in its box....for 18 months or so.  I will probably put
it on here in another month or so.  I would prefer to *dual boot*, but
partitioning and doing that is a lot of work and I have no one close by that
knows anything about that sort of thing.  My MS buddies in England would
walk me thru it though.

To turn off automatic updating, go to Start/Run/Settings/Control Panel and
double click on Automatic Updates.  Tick off the 2nd or 3rd choice.  I see I
have the 2nd one ticked off......I haven't had an auto update for at least a
year.  Yay for WindowsME!!  (G)

Cheers.....Heather

> Steve:
>     Don't recognize that one, so I don't think so.  One thing I did do,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>     Thank you.
> David S.
Tom C - 09 Aug 2004 10:16 GMT
Morning Heather,

Setting your machine up for dual boot isn't complicated. If you've got
enough space, Partition Magic from Power Quest can re-partition the drive
without destroying your existing information as a regular partitioning and
re-format would do. The program is easy to use and retails for about $25 US.
Email me if you would like more info.

Tom

> Hi David....
>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> >     Thank you.
> > David S.
Steve Kramer - 09 Aug 2004 12:01 GMT
I've had ME for years.... almost 5 I think.  I'm very happy with it.  I've
ahd a lot less problems with it than my wife has had with her XP.

Signature

Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .07 .05
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03, 4/04
non illegitimi carborundum

> Hi David....
>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> >     Thank you.
> > David S.
Larry - 08 Aug 2004 04:10 GMT
In the past, I have subscribed to the basic Norton virus scanner by
Symantec. This year, when it was time to renew my subscription, I upgraded
to their premium Internet Security 2004. I selected the CD option instead of
the download. When it arrived, it included a $20 rebate which negated the
increased cost from the basic.
To the point: I really like it. It has a powerful anti-spam feature,
eliminates pop-up ads, and includes a personal firewall among other
features. Worth looking into in my opinion. I sure have noticed a big
difference in my ability to control the environment on my computer.

Larry

>     I was going to entitle this "See Buttercup nude" just to fit in with the
> majority of the posts here lately.  Anybody know what is going on with all
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>     Take care all.  Thank you.
> David S.
jk - 08 Aug 2004 04:31 GMT
>     I was going to entitle this "See Buttercup nude" just to fit in with the
> majority of the posts here lately.  Anybody know what is going on with all
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>     Take care all.  Thank you.
> David S.

    I've just learned to ignore it all. It's like they are invisible. We
are helpless and powerless to do anything affirmative. As long as there's
free speech, spammers will be able to liter 1000's of NGs every day. As to
your other probs, you need a prog like Adaware, and Spybot, and a firewall
as well as a virus scanner today to keep "malware" out.  If you are
infected, think about taking affirmative action with all these programs, and
start out fresh. Sometimes it's better than spending 100 hours trying to
track them down.

Signature

JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

Heather - 08 Aug 2004 07:55 GMT
> >     I was going to entitle this "See Buttercup nude" just to fit in with
> the majority of the posts here lately.  Anybody know what is going on with
all the crap that is showing up?  I am seeing this in other newsgroups, like
microsoft.public... and they are all the same - "See Britany's tits", etc.
> >     I hope all the new guys know not to open crap like that.  I am
> starting week four of dealing with a virus/worm/trojan that Heather is
helping me diagnose, but so far no luck.  Opening one of the "see my
daughters hairy bush" posts could put you in the same boat as me (I know
better than to open those, so I am pretty sure that is not how I got my
infection).  The email still works, and newsgroups as you can see, but the
IE browser is dead in the water (except, interestingly enough, the bank web
site opens just fine - think that odd??).  I did install Firefox, and it
works fine.  Wonder if those jokers are the authors of the virus, just to
get new business?
> >     Anyway,  I missed my anniversary of the RRP, August 1st, because of
battling this sh.t.  Last year cancer.  this year a computer virus.   It was
easier to get rid of the cancer!   A very big THANK YOU to Heather and her
friends for trying to help me though.  I do not know where I would be
without them.
.  Just frustrated.
> >     Take care all.  Thank you.
> > David S.

>      I've just learned to ignore it all. It's like they are invisible. We
> are helpless and powerless to do anything affirmative. As long as there's
> free speech, spammers will be able to liter 1000's of NGs every day. As to
your other probs, you need a prog like Adaware, and Spybot, and a firewall
as well as a virus scanner today to keep "malware" out.  If you are
infected, think about taking affirmative action with all these programs, and
start out fresh. Sometimes it's better than spending 100 hours trying to
track them down.<<<<

Just for general info......he had Norton, Zone Alarm Pro and AdAware, and
has used all of the following.......CWSShredder, Spybot, HiJack This,  and
more.  He has no known viruses or spyware.  What he does have is a
non-functioning IE6 browser and is now using Firefox which works just fine.
(and no, David.....they didn't bugger up your IE, grin)

He has posted his HiJack This Logs on a Spyforum (which were pretty darn
clean) and the gurus have tried numerous things just to rule out all known
causes!!  All in all, considering he is a relative *newbie*, he has jumped
thru hoops to try and find the problem......and guess what, no dice so far.
We are starting to see reports on the antivirus and MS news groups of the
same thing.....and I think there is malware out there that is not
identifiable as yet.

In essence, he has had some of the best brains in the malware business
coming up with possible solutions.....and he has done an amazing job at
following what I send to him.  I want to publically congratulate him for
doing such a super job.

So in other words.....David is not infected with any *known* virus or worm
or spyware....and we WILL get to the bottom of this!!!  I just answered
another query on the antivirus news group where the poster has the same
problem......hmmm.

Just be careful out there.....as that NYPD Blues guy used to say.  Even
reading the news groups, as he says, is getting a bit hairy......many
viruses posted on those these days.  Both as attachments (obvious) and links
to webpages.

Cheers......Heather
J - 08 Aug 2004 08:45 GMT
> > >     I was going to entitle this "See Buttercup nude" just to fit in with
> > the majority of the posts here lately.  Anybody know what is going on with
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> > >site opens just fine - think that odd??).

PWSteal.Banker.B  ??
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/pwsteal.banker.b.html

> I did install Firefox, and it
> > >works fine.
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Cheers......Heather

Well, I got "hit" with the above.
Norton could not "repair", but it quarantined 5 files.
unknown0701.data
windll.exe
lsd_f3.dll
install1.exe
iesprt.sys

I searched all (non system) files for files (and folders) with the words "bank"
or "money" in them and renamed them.
Ditto for in favorites.

Symantec (above) has instructions.
1) they are not exactly "true" to where the "impersonate" is in the Registry, so
run a registry search on lsd_f3.dll and impersonate.   I'm waiting for a friend
to come assist me with the registry editing.
2) do not use System Restore until this is fixed because it restores the Trojan
3) backup the registry before editing it.   Once I'm sure I'm clean, I'll back
up the registry again (and delete the previous backup, which contains the "bad
code" in it.

My IE seems to work, but I'm not using it (for now).
J
MH - 09 Aug 2004 02:26 GMT
Hi, Heather... another OT problem......

I am subscribed to two Newsgroups .... use Outlook Express.
I have been able to read and post to both groups with no problem.... until
the past week.  I can still post to *this* newsgroup just fine..... The
other newsgroup, I can *read* posts, but none of my posts or replies show
up!
Any ideas where I can go for help??
I've contacted my ISP and am waiting for a reply.

Thanks!
MikeH
Heather - 09 Aug 2004 03:01 GMT
Hi Mike.....

I don't use my ISP for this group or my 2 antivirus ones for reasons like
yours.  But try this with this group on your ISP one.   It may just work and
if not I will give you the link for the free German news reader I am using
here.

For alt.support.cancer.....right click on the newsgroup name on the left of
your screen.  Click on Properties and then the tab that says Local File.  At
the bottom, click on Reset......this should clear out the n.g. and reset it.
A bit of a pain, but just may work.  If not, you may have to delete the ISP
newsgroups and redownload them.  This used to happen with the Microsoft ones
and that is about all you can do.

http://news.individual.net/ is the website for the free German news server
that a lot of us use......it is often more reliable.

Cheers....Heather
> Hi, Heather... another OT problem......
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Thanks!
> MikeH
MH - 09 Aug 2004 03:31 GMT
Thanks, Heather.... I just tried *resetting* the other newsgroup.  It erased
all the posts.... but I do that each time I visit the group (delete all the
messages, I mean).
So I'm not sure if it will help.  But I'll let you know!  If not, I can go
to the German server... I have used it in the past.  But since changing
ISPs, I had been using just that for my newsgroups.... and all was working
well until the past week.

Take care!
MikeH :)

> Hi Mike.....
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> > Thanks!
> > MikeH
jk - 09 Aug 2004 03:55 GMT
"see my
>do anything affirmative. As long as there's
> > free speech, spammers will be able to liter 1000's of NGs every day. As to
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Cheers......Heather

  As you know Heather I'm an old computer geek, and his problems were so
common way back when, but we called them "tech" problems. All it takes is
one line out of 10,000 lines in an obscure reg key to make IE not run
correctly.  Today it's all blamed on malware... and most times justifyably
so.  If he had all those progs running and his IE won't work there are other
possibilities. The most common is that although his machine is now clean,
the damage WAS already done. The other is that for a reason as commonplace
as an unexpected shutdown, his registry may be corrupt. All fixable, but
time consuming.  (biggest culprit today are the hijackers)... CWShredder is
a start.
   What I have my clients do in XP, is make weekly backups of all critical
data. Next is to create a new restore point at least every 2 weeks while all
is running well.  If and when the prob comes, first try is to find malware.
Then go back to a restore point. Lastly it may be actually less time
comsuming to reformat, and reinstall all your stuff from your burned CD's.
Starting fresh may take a couple of hours as opposed to 100's playing
around.

Signature

JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

Heather - 09 Aug 2004 06:44 GMT
>    As you know Heather I'm an old computer geek, and his problems were so
> common way back when, but we called them "tech" problems. All it takes is
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Starting fresh may take a couple of hours as opposed to 100's playing
> around.

What you say makes a lot of sense.  I had him run the standards for spyware
and hijackers simply because they are so prevalent and that is what it
sounded like at first.  But some of the a-v guys are saying (as you are)
that all it takes is a rogue DLL or Hosts file problem (his is fine)....or
other 'techie' details.  And unfortunately it is hard to sort out obscure
problems at a distance.

I never go back more than a week with System Restore....too many changes if
you go back further.  I went back 2 weeks once and damn near crashed this
computer.  I make restore points manually when I put updates or new progs on
here as a matter of course.  I don't make backups as often as I
should.....will do it tomorrow now that you reminded me.

Btw, the author of CWS Shredder is not going to be updating it anymore....I
believe he is going to college or some such.  I just saw that the other day.
A real shame because that is a good little program.

Thanks for the insight.  This is probably just a small thing with big
ramifications as you say.

Cheers.....Heather
jimhoney - 08 Aug 2004 07:59 GMT
Well said.  I've been there, done that, and bought an Apple iMac to
escape those PC and IE problems.

No, this is not a commercial for the iMac.  Apple has stopped taking
orders for the iMac.  It will sell some other model this fall.

jimhoney
Heather - 08 Aug 2004 08:21 GMT
Grinning because my daughter uses a G-Mac (graphic artist).....but you can
still pass the viruses on.  She and I have great discussions on this
subject.  She had Norton on hers.....but uses Yahoo for email, which stops
the viruses.

I guess I have been in the *virus world* for so long that I just don't
notice them.  This PC is as virus-proofed as yours.  Sure, they come in, but
I practice *safe hex*.....works better than anything else.

Cheers...Heather  8-))

> Well said.  I've been there, done that, and bought an Apple iMac to
> escape those PC and IE problems.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> jimhoney
David  S. - 08 Aug 2004 22:35 GMT
ROTFL    "practice safe hex...".  that is a hoot.

Thank you again Heather.

David

> Grinning because my daughter uses a G-Mac (graphic artist).....but you can
> still pass the viruses on.  She and I have great discussions on this
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >
> > jimhoney
Larry Wheat - 09 Aug 2004 02:22 GMT
Exactly right, Jim, and ain't it a great feeling?

No viruses, built-in firewall, built-in pop-up blocker, rock-solid UNIX
underpinnings and stylish machines to boot --- life is good when you
drive a Mac.

Larry

> Well said.  I've been there, done that, and bought an Apple iMac to
> escape those PC and IE problems.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> jimhoney
MH - 09 Aug 2004 02:24 GMT
>  Opening one of the "see my daughters hairy
> bush" posts could put you in the same boat as me (I know better than to open
> those, so I am pretty sure that is not how I got my infection).

C'mon, David!  'fess up!  Just what *did* you open?? ;))))))))))

Hope you get to the bottom of it soon!

MikeH
Rich C - 09 Aug 2004 18:26 GMT
Hi David,

I was directed to this thread by my fiance, who's father passed away 2 years
ago from prostate ca. and who lurks here often.

It looks like something is sitting in between your IE browser and the IP
stack (the internet communication protocols.) It could have been some
spyware that was removed, or it could be simply "broken" by a corrupt
registry as others have said.

The reason that Firefox works is that it does not allow things like "Browser
Helper Objects" (one of the worst scourges on the internet) to interfere
with surfing.

Also, the reason that your bank web site works is that it uses HTTPS
protocol, and whatever it is is that is breaking your IE is only messing
with the regular HTTP protocol.

Anyway, with Windows XP, you can do a "repair install" which will reinstall
all of your system files and NOT mess up your settings or delete any of your
documents. (Of course you should still do a backup before attempting it.)

Just boot the computer using the Windows XP CD. When the CD boots, you will
see the following:

This portion of the Setup program prepares Microsoft
  Windows XP to run on your computer:

  To setup Windows XP now, press ENTER.

  To repair a Windows XP installation using Recovery Console, press R.

  To quit Setup without installing Windows XP, press F3.

Press ENTER just like you were going to set up windows from scratch. I know
it's scary, but trust me. DO NOT PRESS "R" at this point even though it says
"Repair."

Accept the license agreement. Windows will then search for existing
installations (there should be only one.)

Select that installation and press "R" to start the repair.

IF THE REPAIR OPTION IS NOT AVAILABLE, DO NOT CONTINUE. EXIT SETUP
IMMEDIATELY (press F3.)

Otherwise Windows will start a fresh install and wipe out everything.

After you press "R," Setup will copy all the files over and reboot. Don't
boot from the CD the second time. Just let Setup finish the installation. It
will LOOK like Windows is installing from scratch but your documents and
settings will be preserved.

Then, BEFORE connecting to the internet, enable the XP firewall. Go to the
control panel.

In Control Panel, double-click Networking and Internet Connections, and then
click Network Connections.

Right-click the connection on which you would like to enable ICF (Internet
Connection Firewall,) and then click Properties.

On the Advanced tab, click the box to select the option to Protect my
computer or network.

If you want to enable the use of some applications and services through the
firewall, you need to enable them by clicking the Settings button, and then
selecting the programs, protocols, and services to be enabled for the ICF
configuration.

Then you will need to connect to the internet and update your installation
by getting and installing all the critical updates.

While this can be tedious and time consuming (since there are now nearly 40
security related fixes to the original XP SP-1) it can be less hassle than
reformatting your hard drive and installing everything from scratch.

If you have questions you can reach me directly, as I don't come here often.

Good luck.

Rich C.
www.pchelpnetwork.com
webmaster (at) pchelpnetwork (dot) com

----- Original Message -----
From: "David S." <davdetchprostate@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer.prostate
Sent: August 07, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: OT Spam, porn, and frustration.

>     I was going to entitle this "See Buttercup nude" just to fit in with the
> majority of the posts here lately.  Anybody know what is going on with all
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>     Take care all.  Thank you.
> David S.
Heather - 09 Aug 2004 18:58 GMT
Huge thanks to you Rick for your down-to-earth explanation and tips.  I know
how intimidating *Repair* is on my WinME computer.  And because I don't use
XP, I was not sure if it was the same method as mine....and it isn't.

Another thought.....even tho XP SP2 is not officially out yet......I believe
that is the huge download he referred to (some 80 megs I am seeing in the
reports).....and he does show SP2 in Add/Remove.  Odd!!  He does have auto
updating turned on but I am surprised that he got this one.  And today's
paper said there are still bugs to be worked out.  But his problems started
before that.  Just wanted to let you know.

I am saving your post along with my MS gurus' ones......to help others if
they run into the same problem.

Much appreciated.......Heather

> Hi David,
>
[quoted text clipped - 80 lines]
> www.pchelpnetwork.com
> webmaster (at) pchelpnetwork (dot) com
Rich C - 09 Aug 2004 19:57 GMT
(I sent this a while ago but it never made it to my server. I apologize if
some of you see it twice.)

Hi David,

I was directed to this thread by my fiance, who's father passed away 2 years
ago from prostate ca. and who lurks here often.

It looks like something is sitting in between your IE browser and the IP
stack (the internet communication protocols.) It could have been some
spyware that was removed, or it could be simply "broken" by a corrupt
registry as others have said.

The reason that Firefox works is that it does not allow things like "Browser
Helper Objects" (one of the worst scourges on the internet) to interfere
with surfing.

Also, the reason that your bank web site works is that it uses HTTPS
protocol, and whatever it is is that is breaking your IE is only messing
with the regular HTTP protocol.

Anyway, with Windows XP, you can do a "repair install" which will reinstall
all of your system files and NOT mess up your settings or delete any of your
documents. (Of course you should still do a backup before attempting it.)

Just boot the computer using the Windows XP CD. When the CD boots, you will
see the following:

This portion of the Setup program prepares Microsoft
  Windows XP to run on your computer:

  To setup Windows XP now, press ENTER.

  To repair a Windows XP installation using Recovery Console, press R.

  To quit Setup without installing Windows XP, press F3.

Press ENTER just like you were going to set up windows from scratch. I know
it's scary, but trust me. DO NOT PRESS "R" at this point even though it says
"Repair."

Accept the license agreement. Windows will then search for existing
installations (there should be only one.)

Select that installation and press "R" to start the repair.

IF THE REPAIR OPTION IS NOT AVAILABLE, DO NOT CONTINUE. EXIT SETUP
IMMEDIATELY (press F3.)

Otherwise Windows will start a fresh install and wipe out everything.

After you press "R," Setup will copy all the files over and reboot. Don't
boot from the CD the second time. Just let Setup finish the installation. It
will LOOK like Windows is installing from scratch but your documents and
settings will be preserved.

Then, BEFORE connecting to the internet, enable the XP firewall. Go to the
control panel.

In Control Panel, double-click Networking and Internet Connections, and then
click Network Connections.

Right-click the connection on which you would like to enable ICF (Internet
Connection Firewall,) and then click Properties.

On the Advanced tab, click the box to select the option to Protect my
computer or network.

If you want to enable the use of some applications and services through the
firewall, you need to enable them by clicking the Settings button, and then
selecting the programs, protocols, and services to be enabled for the ICF
configuration.

Then you will need to connect to the internet and update your installation
by getting and installing all the critical updates.

While this can be tedious and time consuming (since there are now nearly 40
security related fixes to the original XP SP-1) it can be less hassle than
reformatting your hard drive and installing everything from scratch.

If you have questions you can reach me directly, as I don't come here often.

Good luck.

Rich C.
www.pchelpnetwork.com
webmaster (at) pchelpnetwork (dot) com

>     I was going to entitle this "See Buttercup nude" just to fit in with the
> majority of the posts here lately.  Anybody know what is going on with all
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>     Take care all.  Thank you.
> David S.
c palmer - 10 Aug 2004 17:15 GMT
hi david - i got this email in from a friend and thought i would pass it
on.  it may explain why some people are having trouble and others
aren't.  hope this helps.

~ curtis

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:19 AM
Subject: August Update
Good morning.
Here's what's happening in the world of computers involving Service
Packs, viruses, worms, and us.
Microsoft is in the final stages of releasing Service Pack 2 for Windows
XP. There has been quite a bit in the news lately about how this latest
update to XP increases security - and that is a good thing. However, in
doing so it also 'breaks' some things that worked in the past. If you
are running an application that uses Microsoft SQL on a file server,
that application will no longer work until a work-around is setup. There
are other known issues that the testers have found over the last few
months as well. My suggestion is this, if you have the automatic Windows
Update feature turned on - which most of you will if you are running XP
- be sure to look at Details before allowing any Update to install. If
Service Pack 2 is listed as one that will be installed, you might want
to consider not installing it yet. I'm going to set up a new Nobilis XP
Professional system and put the final release of Service Pack 2 on it to
check it out. I'll let you know what I find and how to proceed.  
Again, this is only for Window XP - not 98 or
2000.
Viruses and worms are getting worse every day. The best protection is to
never turn on your computer - but that's not practical. One of the
latest attacks comes in by way or a pop-up message that says your
computer has spyware. It offers a free scan to remove this problem. In
reality, this pop-up is offering to INSTALL spyware on your system. Once
you do it, it opens a portal where all kinds of bad stuff gets onto your
system. I have seen a couple of systems with this infestation that had
to have the hard drive reformatted and the operating system and all
software reinstalled in order to clean it up. However, new and better
protection systems are being produced regularly. The new version of
Symantec Anti-Virus Corporate Edition (version 9) can now help protect
against more that just viruses. Spy Bot can scan, remove, and protect
against most spyware. AdAware can scan and remove most adware. But the
best protection is to simply not download anything from the Internet.
There is no free lunch on the Internet. Even the most simple screen
savers, helpful toolbars, etc. have a cost - usually additional, bad
software that comes into your system along with what you asked for.

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
David  S. - 12 Aug 2004 02:39 GMT
Rich:
   Thank you for the detailed instructions.  I am an accountant, and we are
in the throes of month end close, so long hours, etc.  I just have not had
time to deal with this problem.  I copied your message and will probably
work on this again this weekend.  Thanks for taking the time to help me out,
and please thank your finance for caring.  I really do appreciate your help.
   Thank you.
David

> (I sent this a while ago but it never made it to my server. I apologize if
> some of you see it twice.)
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> >     Take care all.  Thank you.
> > David S.
 
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