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Cpflanagan3 - 23 Jul 2004 01:29 GMT
I was diagnosed in May:
 Age - 57
 PSA - 12.3
 Gleason - 6 [3+3]
 Stage - T1c

While doing my research, I found this group and one of the members told me
about his experience with robotic surgery, which turned out to be the treatment
I selected (thanks, Jeff).

I had my surgery yesterday morning and was releasd at 9:30 this morning.  Now,
I'm lying in bed, at home, sending e-mails and listening to the TV.  The doc
gave me some pain meds, but so far, I haven't needed them.  As for this
blankety-blank catheter, well, it sure is a pain.  Thank goodness it's only for
a week and it comes out next Wednesday.

Now, I have to wait for the path report, and 3 months for my PSA.  Still,
feeling as well as I do right now (28 hours post-op) is a blessing.

Chuck Flanagan
Al - 23 Jul 2004 01:41 GMT
*While doing my research, I found this group and one of the members
told me
*about his experience with robotic surgery, which turned out to be the
treatment
*I selected (thanks, Jeff).
<snip>

Please report, when you can, how successful your procedure was,
overall. I'm thinking I'd have liked to have had that procedure if it
had been available to me. I had RRP and had a 6 week recovery period
from work. I'd have liked to have recovered sooner...

Al

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John Loomis - 23 Jul 2004 02:52 GMT
Hello Chuck,
I could never understand a robotic surgery.......
Regardless, the robot did the job.
Yes, the catheter is a real pain in the penis...
You can rub double antibiotic ointment on the tip of willy..
It helps the slip and slide....

Seems like you are more than fine.
Good wishes with path report, but feel you are already past that.
Keep willy happy.....It helps.....
Good wishes to my friend. John Loomis

> I was diagnosed in May:
>   Age - 57
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> Chuck Flanagan
Chuck McClellan - 23 Jul 2004 11:13 GMT
> I was diagnosed in May:
>   Age - 57
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>
> Chuck Flanagan

That is an amazing time frame Chuck. Good luck with the path report
and try to remian in good spirits and humor with the Foley.

Chuck McClellan
jk - 23 Jul 2004 22:20 GMT
> I was diagnosed in May:
>   Age - 57
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>
> Chuck Flanagan

 Most lucky ones find this group before they make their treatment decision.
We've all gone through what you're experiencing now, and are here to offer
any advice you may have... welcome!

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Steve Kramer - 25 Jul 2004 16:56 GMT
Great, Chuck!  I remember you said mid-July.  I'm glad things went well for
you.

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Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .07 .05
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03, 4/04
non illegitimi carborundum

> I was diagnosed in May:
>   Age - 57
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>
> Chuck Flanagan
MrBill - 27 Jul 2004 15:00 GMT
Great news Chuck!  The stories continue almost like carbon copies,
regarding the robotic RRP.  I too, had the robotic procedure
12/15/2003 and the first week I literally lived in my recliner, with
the cath. strapped to my leg.  After that it was time for Christmas
and was basically on the go since then.  I was driving a bull dozer at
the end of the 2nd week (Dr. probably didn't want to know about that).
Now at 7 months, I wear a lite days pad to catch a possible few drips
a day and usually will wear the same pad for 2 days.  (Don't want it
to stink).  ED still shows no sign, but I am hoping for the return.
Again, great news and take care of yourself so there are no
complications.

MrBill
age at diagnosis 48
PSA 1.4
Gleason 3+3=6
T2a
12 cores, 5 right positive, 1 left positive
robotic RRP 12/15/03
PSA 4/2/04, 7/14/04 = <.1
age 49

> Great, Chuck!  I remember you said mid-July.  I'm glad things went well for
> you.
>
> > I was diagnosed in May:

> >   Age - 57
> >   PSA - 12.3
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> >
> > Chuck Flanagan
Beverley - 28 Jul 2004 03:28 GMT
Bill, take this from a female. I hope you change your underwear daily so you
also need to change your pad daily!!
Bev

> Great news Chuck!  The stories continue almost like carbon copies,
> regarding the robotic RRP.  I too, had the robotic procedure
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> > >
> > > Chuck Flanagan
MrBill - 29 Jul 2004 04:24 GMT
Thanks.  Yes, the undies are changed every day, I'll do the pads too.

> Bill, take this from a female. I hope you change your underwear daily so you
> also need to change your pad daily!!
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> > > >
> > > > Chuck Flanagan
Danny McCarty - 30 Jul 2004 23:47 GMT
>Subject: Re: Robotic RP
>From: mrbill@misterpond.com  (MrBill)
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>> also need to change your pad daily!!
>> Bev

How could we avoid it?  If you try to move the pad, the sticky stuff won't
stick...
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Cpflanagan3 - 01 Aug 2004 05:04 GMT
July 31, 2004
Arlington, TX

Several hours after my catheter was removed, I met the doc for a post-op
follow-up.  When he asked how I was doing, I mentioned that I had been walking
every day since Friday after the operation.  He commented that walking is good
and that those patients that do a lot of it seem to have stronger lower abs and
do well at regaining continence.

For at least six weeks prior to the surgery, I had been walking 4-5 times a
week, for 3-4 miles, each morning.  Thursday and Friday of this week, I was
back up to 3 miles.  Why mention all this?

Well, 15 minutes after catheter removal I was shoe shopping and had two small
'squirts' of less that 1/2 tsp each.  An hour later, I had another.  Since
then, none!  I'm wearing a large pad, and change it daily, but only because
it's the sanitary thing to do...not because it's too wet.  For the amount of
leakage I've had, I could still be wearing the first one I put down my shorts.
Why?

I truely believe that all my walking played a major factor.  (I also took no
pain meds after leaving the hospital...not even an aspirin).  Other factors
that I'm sure helped were my surgeon's skill, the robot's precision,
Irish/beginner's luck, and a lot of prayer from friends and family.  In fact,
these may have been more important than the walking, but walking is something
that I can directly control and it makes sense that it should help.

Chuck Flanagan

Pre-op                                Post-op
 PSA 12.3                            Too Soon to Tell
 Stage T1c                           T3a (Some capsular penetration)
 Gleason 6 (3+3)                   6 (3+3)

Robotic RP 7/21/04 (10 days ago)
Catheter out 7/28/04 (3 days ago)
Steve Kramer - 01 Aug 2004 16:36 GMT
You gotta like the 'bot!  I'm sure walking did have a positive effect.  I
was walking 2 miles daily (17 minute miles) by the time I had my RRP.  I was
back to walking the day the cath was removed.  Eventually, I was doing 3-5
miles, 3-5 times a week.  But, it still took six months for continence.

Regardless, my walking helped heal me to the extent that my uro thought he
had walked into the wrong treatment room during my first post-op visit.

Still walking almost 4 years later.  Never felt better.

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Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .07 .05
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03, 4/04
non illegitimi carborundum

> July 31, 2004
> Arlington, TX
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> Robotic RP 7/21/04 (10 days ago)
> Catheter out 7/28/04 (3 days ago)
Chuck McClellan - 01 Aug 2004 17:35 GMT
> July 31, 2004
> Arlington, TX
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> Robotic RP 7/21/04 (10 days ago)
> Catheter out 7/28/04 (3 days ago)

Glad to hear the news about the continence. Hope everything else goes
a well.  Walking seems to be the answer doesn't it?  I know it helped
me.  Again I am glad to hear the news.

Chuck McClellan
Larry Wheat - 02 Aug 2004 00:36 GMT
Chuc:

I assume you also are a satisfied customer of Dr. David Lee and his Da
Vinci. I am a happy customer, served last October.

Sounds you're making excellent progress --- keep it up!

Larry

> July 31, 2004 Arlington, TX
>
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>
> Robotic RP 7/21/04 (10 days ago) Catheter out 7/28/04 (3 days ago)
Cpflanagan3 - 03 Aug 2004 03:23 GMT
<<I assume you also are a satisfied customer of Dr. David Lee and his Da
Vinci.   >>

Yep I had the pleasure of the "R2-Lee2" procedure.  As far as I'm
concerned...WOW!

Chuck
 
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