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Canada Bob - 24 Jun 2004 19:49 GMT
Don't know what you guys think of some of the Sponsored Links, but I
can't say I'm too happy about them.

When you're stuck {or is that struck} with cancer and in a panic to
start off with the last thing you want is someone telling you that
carrot juice is the answer.

I don't think it's appropriate for some of the links to be promoting
their snake oils to folks in a state of shock.

If it aint FDA for the successful treatment of PCa then what are they
doing here ?

Folks need credible information and the last thing we need to do is to
have our hopes raised and our wallets opened by products and people
who {to me} seem to be here for profit rather than to help us avoid
getting fitted up for wooden overcoats.

Is money more important than integrity, consideration or compassion ?

Bob.
Danny McCarty - 25 Jun 2004 00:14 GMT
>Subject: Sponsored Links !
>From: robert01942@hotmail.com  (Canada Bob)
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>Is money more important than integrity, consideration or compassion ?

 Yes.  ;-}  Now, let's be serious.  Snake oil dealers have been around for
ages, ignore them, just ask us patients what is reasonable.  Doesn't that sound
humble?  Research physicians really do try very hard to check out every vaguely
possible claim- pay attention to them.  Without my doc, I would probably have
only two years or so of painful life left.  The median time to death after
diagnosis for untreated prostate cancer is 5 years, I have read.  I've used up
three, but I have a decade or so left.  My arithemetic is terrible, my cancer
-is- very aggressive.

Cool it and smile!  ;-}

>Bob.
Canada Bob - 25 Jun 2004 23:43 GMT
Hello Danny...

> Yes.  ;-}  Now, let's be serious.

It doesn't get much more serious Danny {than being diagnosed with
cancer].

> Snake oil dealers have been around for ages, ignore them, just ask us
> patients what is reasonable.  Doesn't that sound humble?  

I can ignore them {sort of} but I can relate to folks who find their
way in here being in a state of panic, hoping to find a "cure all".
None of us are in the best frame of mind when we may be days after
being diagnosed, and in fear some folks will grab at anything
{potentially wasting time and money}, money some of us can throw away,
but time to find credible treatments may well be at a premium for some
folks, the last thing they need is to get routed down the wrong
street.

> Research physicians really do try very hard to check out every vaguely
> possible claim- pay attention to them.

I'm not talking about Researchers Danny, I'm speaking of the quacks
who attempt to persuade folks to "eat organic" "drink only distilled
water" or other such blank domino's.

> Without my doc, I would probably have only two years or so of painful life
> left.  The median time to death after  diagnosis for untreated prostate  
> cancer is 5 years, I have read.  I've used up three, but I have a decade or > so left.  My arithemetic is terrible, my cancer -is- very aggressive.

Glad that you had the sense to speak to someone {shall I call it}
mainstream, at least you aint eating 38lbs of carrots {only the
organic ones that is} per day, hoping to cure yourself.

I hope that you can see where my concern is directed at Danny, folks
in a panic will {almost} believe anything {when they are scared
witless}.

Sorry to hear about the aggressive nature of your cancer, I really am,
what options have you considered ? HIFU ???

> Cool it and smile!  ;-}

I'm cool enough Danny, just a little upset that some innocent folks
could waste their valuable time, money {and hopes} on quackery.

I can {and do} look after myself, but I also concern about "others",
who may find themselves in need of some sensible direction.

All the Best, from Wigan, Lancashire, England.
Danny McCarty - 26 Jun 2004 01:29 GMT
>Subject: Re: Sponsored Links !
>From: robert01942@hotmail.com  (Canada Bob)
>Date: 6/25/2004 5:43 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8435bc6b.0406251443.5c9f2c1c@posting.google.com>
>
>Hello Danny...

Hello, Bob!
I was trying to cheer you up.  ;-}
I have had surgery, radiation, and hormones, and they have all failed.  I have
had 24 weeks of chemotherapy, including a handfull of pills daily and an IV
infusion every week, and it seems to have worked- my condition is stable for a
while.  I am part of a stage II clinical trial, still.  We had a poor soul on
this newsgroup for a while who was drinking his own urine and washing himself
with it.  He died a few weeks ago.  Some of us don't like the idea of giving
the FDA any more power than it already has, however.

>> Yes.  ;-}  Now, let's be serious.
>
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
>All the Best, from Wigan, Lancashire, England.

 
c palmer - 26 Jun 2004 02:36 GMT
hi danny and bob- i thought i would cheer you up with some rubbish spam
ad that i saw claiming to cure cancer and placed in the prostatitis
newsgroup, which is a little strange.  they did change the header, but
the body was the same when they posted the same message in the impotence
newsgroup claiming that this braclet would cure impotence.  so, for 90
dollars, not only can it make your wallet a little lighter, it can cure
what ails ya!!!  and i also understand that it can make you a little bit
smarter too....... :))

have a happy danny and bob.  

~ curtis
--------------------

Hello, Bob!
I was trying to cheer you up. ;-}

Some of us don't like the idea of giving the FDA any more power than it
already has, however.

Snake oil dealers have been around for ages, ignore them, just ask us
patients.

I can ignore them {sort of} but I can relate to folks who find their way
in here being in a state of panic, hoping to find a "cure all".
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knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
Danny McCarty - 27 Jun 2004 00:03 GMT
>Subject: Re: Sponsored Links !
>From: PALMER_ENT@webtv.net  (c palmer)
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>I can ignore them {sort of} but I can relate to folks who find their way
>in here being in a state of panic,

Thanks, Curtis!  Whew, what a bunch of ****.  I wish all patients would get on
this newsgroup and let us straighten them out!  ( I really am a rather arrogant
bastard, actually, always right! )
Beverley - 27 Jun 2004 15:44 GMT
For starters this is not a sponsored anything merely an open newsgroup. That
means no one monitors it. No one suppresses it. It's total free speech. That
means we get the quacks on here and these peddling snake oil.

Many of us filter certain posters out. And the other good way of avoiding
the junk is just delete it.
Bev

> Don't know what you guys think of some of the Sponsored Links, but I
> can't say I'm too happy about them.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Bob.
 
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