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Lucky - 24 Jun 2004 19:03 GMT

Hi everyone
Thanks to all that responded to my first post. What a great group of
people, I just found this NG a couple of weeks ago.
I had my first visit with the doctor since my surgery in February, my
PSA level was undetectable, I don't know how much that means
considering I'm still on Lupron. I will need to see what it dose once
I am off that stuff.
I did ask the reason for the Lupron, the doctor said it is used as a
precautionary procedure to try to kill any trace of cancer in the
event they did not get it all with the surgery. He is still very
confident that he was able to get it all. If he did get it all doses
that mean that it can never come back? I should have asked but those
surgeons always seem to be in such a hurry, I should have written down
my questions before the visit.
I did get another shot of 4 month lupron what a drag, so I guess I
will be a limp dick until at leased October.

Age 58 5'11" 180 Lbs
11/7/2003 PSA - 17.56 Denied Insurance
11/24/2003 PSA - 22. First urologist appointment
12/10/2003 Biopsy Gleason 3+4=7 involving 6 of 10 needle cores
12/17/2003 CT scan negative for metastasis
12/19/2003    Second opinion (and my birthday) surgeon was highly
recommended
performs this type of surgery daily at Rochester Mayo Clinic
1/16/2004 Mexico honey moon not getting married until 5/20/205
figured now or maybe never (smile)
2/6/2004    RRP surgery at Mayo nerve bundle saved on left side.
2/27/2004    Catheter removed and first of two Lupron shots
2/27/2004    First erection (useless peed on my fiancée lost the moment)
4/2004    1 pad per day from 2 sleeping all night no accidents fingers
crossed.
6/20/2004    PSA undetectable 2and Lupron shot. Not using any pads need
to be very careful when drinking. I can get it up to half mast but
that's it

Mike

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Steve Kramer - 25 Jun 2004 02:35 GMT

funny thing about urine and sex.

But, why Lupron? Was there postive margines?

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Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA .07 .05
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03, 4/04

> Hi everyone
> Thanks to all that responded to my first post. What a great group of
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> Mike

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Lucky - 25 Jun 2004 16:37 GMT

> funny thing about urine and sex.
>
> But, why Lupron? Was there postive margines?

I have read alot of your messages on this NG thanks for all your help.
As far as the margins below is what was on my report which they gave
me on my dismissal Feb 8th 2004.

The right anterior apex margin is involved by tumor over a 7 mm
length. The left anterior apex margin is involved by tumor over a 2mm
length. Seiparately submitted additional apex tissue is free of tumor.
the remaining surgical margins including separately submitted
periureathral tissue, are negative for tumor.

LOL what ever all that means

Mike

> > Hi everyone
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Danny McCarty - 25 Jun 2004 20:17 GMT

>Subject: Re: Update
>From: mlindsoe@efalcontech.com (Lucky)
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>LOL what ever all that means

That means there is a much larger probability that some cancer cells escaped
before surgery- there was a patch of cancer cells a quarter of an inch in
diameter at the top forward (anterior) edge of both lobes of the prostate. The
lupron means that the PSA will tell you nothing about the status of your cancer
until 6 months after your last shot, or after you go refractive in three or
four years. Still, you are in better shape than I was. Good luck. I am still
taking lupron and casodex, even though I am obviously "refractive", with PSAs
in the teens, well, 12 anyway.

>Mike
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Steve Kramer - 26 Jun 2004 19:38 GMT

> > funny thing about urine and sex.
> >
> > But, why Lupron? Was there postive margines?

> The right anterior apex margin is involved by tumor over a 7 mm
> length. The left anterior apex margin is involved by tumor over a 2mm
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> LOL what ever all that means

If I understand it myself, I suspect his intent is to shrink any minimal PCa
cells that might still exist. He might even suggest radiation for a
possible death knwll.

Let us know.

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