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Cpflanagan3 - 15 Jun 2004 15:10 GMT
I recently interviewed a laparoscipic surgeon, trying to decide on which
treatment I'd eventually choose.  I'd done a lot of homework; read books,
searched the web, and talked to others about their choices.  Then, I wrote up
an interview sheet, with all the questions I thought appropriate.  Although I
already knew the answers to some of the questions (my way of checking up on the
doc), many were things I did not know and wanted to learn.  Sounds like a
pretty good approach...yes?

Well, a week after my latest interview, I read ("Computer Shopper", July 2004)
that a new study shows that laparoscopic surgeons who play video games, for 3
or more hours per week, make 37% fewer mistakes and perform procedures 27%
faster.  I sure wish I'd known this last week!

Hmmm.....

Let me ask you, "Which is scarier?"

A.  Knowing that your surgeon spends his free time playing video games.

B.  Knowing that he doesn't.

Pehaps this is one of those questions best left unanswered.   :-)

Chuck Flanagan
Jim Rocks - 15 Jun 2004 15:27 GMT
Hey nascar and F1 drivers play video games so they know the tracks without
driving them.  Hand Eye coordination is important. As long as he spends the
rest of his time reading and not playing golf.

Jim Rocks
> I recently interviewed a laparoscipic surgeon, trying to decide on which
> treatment I'd eventually choose.  I'd done a lot of homework; read books,
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> Chuck Flanagan
Chuck McClellan - 15 Jun 2004 21:39 GMT
> Hey nascar and F1 drivers play video games so they know the tracks without
> driving them.  Hand Eye coordination is important. As long as he spends the
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> > Chuck Flanagan

Another one is if you comeo out of anesthesia just long enough to hear
"...well, count again!  It has to be there."

Chuck McClellan
olfart - 15 Jun 2004 21:51 GMT
> > > Hmmm.....
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> Chuck McClellan

or....
Left??  I could have sworn the x-rays said Right
Steve Kramer - 15 Jun 2004 21:34 GMT
Video games require ever increasing speed and eye to hand coordination.  I
suspect a methodical surgeon that plays video games would not be
significantly better than one who does not (notwithstanding the study, of
course).  But, I can very well imagine that he'd be faster.

The kids who took over the school at Columbine (I think that's the one)
played video games apparently every waking hour that they weren't in school.
Most of them, not surprisingly, had them playing with replica firearms.  I
don't recall how many shots they fired in the school, but has I understand
it, they were often fast, point-shooting, and not one was a miss.  That is a
feat probably never duplicated by any crook, cop, or pistolero (other than
Harry Callahan).  I don't think even any Marine, or Sgt. York, or even
Carlos Hathcock can make the claim.

And, of course, all military are trained on video machines now, and probably
docs.

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> I recently interviewed a laparoscipic surgeon, trying to decide on which
> treatment I'd eventually choose.  I'd done a lot of homework; read books,
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> Chuck Flanagan
Beverley - 16 Jun 2004 03:58 GMT
I'm not sure if what you read wasn't taken out of context. There was a
survey done in the last few years of medical students. Seems those who
played video games had better hand/eye coordination and therefore made
better surgeons than those who did not. This study came about after the Air
Force or Navy (can't remember which) noticed a tremendous difference in new
pilot recruits and it was attributed to the hand/eye coordination of video
games.

So yes, these are skills that are perfected by playing games with little
tiny computers. But a kid who spends a life playing games on itty bitty
computers is lacking other important skills such as creativity,
socialization and team work. So do you want a person who can think on
several levels or one who only knows how to operate the controls? Do you
want a technician or a doctor who can think?
Bev

> I recently interviewed a laparoscipic surgeon, trying to decide on which
> treatment I'd eventually choose.  I'd done a lot of homework; read books,
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> Chuck Flanagan
Dave Perry - 16 Jun 2004 14:48 GMT
Or, maybe people who are born with good hand/eye coordination
gravitate toward things they are good at such as video games and
surgery.
Dave Perry
dale.j. - 16 Jun 2004 22:42 GMT
> Or, maybe people who are born with good hand/eye coordination
> gravitate toward things they are good at such as video games and
> surgery.
> Dave Perry

During my initial consultation with the Dr. He was writing everything
down as he spoke only it was all upside down to him.  That was weird.  I
can't hardly spell my name rightside up.

Dale J.

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