Well, that was disappointing..... 2? months longer to live?
I wonder how many $millions were spent for 2? months on average?

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> FDA Approves Prostate Cancer Drug
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> Taxotere Ups Survival in Advanced Prostate Cancer
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> http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/87/99484.htm
Leonard Evens - 25 May 2004 16:59 GMT
> Well, that was disappointing..... 2½ months longer to live?
>
> I wonder how many $millions were spent for 2½ months on average?
Remember that these figures are just averages. I suspect that the
treatment leads to much longer survival in some patients, which would
make it worthwhile trying.
ButtercupsDad@dog.net - 25 May 2004 17:40 GMT
In the flax seed study that I participated in they sent me some
studies done on mice. The differences in some of those studies showed
only a few percentage points difference between the growth of the
cancer in the groups, and I wondered why the fuss?
>Well, that was disappointing..... 2? months longer to live?
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Alan Meyer - 26 May 2004 00:25 GMT
> Well, that was disappointing..... 2? months longer to live?
It may be a little better than that. The precise quote was:
"In clinical trials, men receiving Taxotere and prednisone
survived two-and-a-half months longer than patients
treated with Novantrone and prednisone, an existing
cancer-slowing drug."
So if Novantrone gives you X months, Taxotere will
give X + 2.5, on average.
Alan
Beverley - 26 May 2004 05:37 GMT
I'm pretty sure that was one of the drugs that Berky used for a while.
Bev
> Well, that was disappointing..... 2? months longer to live?
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These drugs have seen their last years.
Look for treatments that are far more advanced in the next 5 years from the
BioTech Companies.
There is no stopping the technology in this age.
We are slowly getting closer. Soon things will progress at a faster rate and
we will have a multitude of options for advanced prostate cancer with the
ultimate cure within 10 years.
This is not coming from me but the Doctors and researchers I have consulted
with over the past 22 months.
Dave P.
> FDA Approves Prostate Cancer Drug
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> Taxotere Ups Survival in Advanced Prostate Cancer
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> http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/87/99484.htm
>Subject: FDA Approves Prostate Cancer Drug
>From: rons@audit2.mailshell.com (Ronaldo)
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>Taxotere Ups Survival in Advanced Prostate Cancer
"two and a half months longer than ..."
Longer than what? Part of my chemotherapy was taxotere.
Bill Denton - 27 May 2004 15:24 GMT
"two and a half months longer than ..."
And just recently someone posted that chemo should be the first
second-line treatment instead of HT. I wonder if that is 2 1/2 good
months or at the tail end? We don't seem to be making much progress.
Bill Denton
RP 2/12/02
Memphis
Alan Meyer - 28 May 2004 04:34 GMT
> "two and a half months longer than ..."
>
> And just recently someone posted that chemo should be the first
> second-line treatment instead of HT. I wonder if that is 2 1/2 good
> months or at the tail end? We don't seem to be making much progress.
The guy who posted that seemed to be thinking that
chemotherapy offered a chance for a cure, whereas
HT did not.
Chemo does offer good chances for a cure for some
other types of cancer. Lance Armstrong got back on
his bike and won the Tour de France after getting chemo
for severely metastatic testicular cancer.
However with prostate cancer I don't think any of the
existing chemotherapies have demonstrated such
dramatic results. I imagine that there are individuals
with cancers that are particularly sensitive to various
chemicals who will get either a cure or a very long
remission from them. But there are also individuals
with cancers that are particularly sensitive to HT who
will get a cure or (what amounts to the same thing)
a very long lasting remission from that.
I guess the progress we're making seems very slow
to those of us who need a cure now. It seems very
fast in relation to humanity's long past history trying
to cure this disease.
We've come a long way since Abigail Adams, the
second President's daughter, had a mastectomy
without anaesthesia in 1811 in an attempt to save
her life (she survived the operation but died two
years later.)
Alan