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Numbers - was Surgery?

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Leo - 16 May 2004 18:01 GMT
I'm 67 years old.
Gleason = 3 +4
Stage Tc1
PSA rose from about 1.5 in January to 5.4 in May.
I'll get a bone scan and CT scan next Thursday.
I've been impotent for about 2 to 3 years - uro put me on androgel
last September. My sugeon, Dr. Kadman, said that the androgel may have
been a blessing because it forced the PSA upswing so that I would get
a biopsy before the cancer had spread too much.

Emails from Curtis have been reassuring as to surgery - thanks Curtis.
Surgery will probably be in the middle of June - Kadman will not do it
until the effects of the biopsy have healed. He says that his record
is about 50% retaining sexual function and 8 to 10% incontinence. From
what I have read (Walsh's book) that seems to be about average. What
with Viagra, Trimix, etc., the first is not a concern. Incontinence
would be a major downer.

Leo aka Charlie

Yahoo address is a spam trap.
cfred at hal-pc.org
Steve Kramer - 16 May 2004 19:13 GMT
Best of luck, Leo (or Charlie).  You're numbers are comparatively good.  Let
us know your date when you find out and we'll have a word with the Big Guy
when you go under the knife.

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Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .07 .05
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03, 4/04

> I'm 67 years old.
> Gleason = 3 +4
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> Yahoo address is a spam trap.
> cfred at hal-pc.org
MH - 16 May 2004 19:26 GMT
Hi, Leo,

I, too, was on Androgel for about nine months prior to my jump in PSA.  In a
way, I consider it a blessing, as otherwise the cancer may not have shown up
until it had progressed too far.

Best to you!
MikeH

> I'm 67 years old.
> Gleason = 3 +4
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> been a blessing because it forced the PSA upswing so that I would get
> a biopsy before the cancer had spread too much.
jimhoney - 16 May 2004 21:20 GMT
Leo,

Right, risk of permanent incontinence is quite low and I suggest you don't
worry about it.  Especially since your numbers imply you're headed for a
complete, one-time cure.  Best of luck with your surgery.

jimhoney
standard RRP Apr 2002, cured, no significant aftereffects
Danny McCarty - 17 May 2004 04:21 GMT
>Subject: Numbers - was Surgery?
>From: Leo leorising99@yahoo.com
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>been a blessing because it forced the PSA upswing so that I would get
>a biopsy before the cancer had spread too much.

Dr. Kadman of Baylor College of Medicine, Scott Department of Urology, Houston,
Texas?  I interviewed for a gene therapy clinical trial with him in February,
2001.  Good man.

>Emails from Curtis have been reassuring as to surgery - thanks Curtis.
>Surgery will probably be in the middle of June - Kadman will not do it
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>Yahoo address is a spam trap.
>cfred at hal-pc.org
Leo - 18 May 2004 22:28 GMT
>Dr. Kadman of Baylor College of Medicine, Scott Department of Urology, Houston,
>Texas?  I interviewed for a gene therapy clinical trial with him in February,
>2001.  Good man.

Same fellow - an associate of Larry Lipshultz.

Leo aka Charlie

Yahoo address is a spam trap.
cfred at hal-pc.org
 
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