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Nutybuddy49 - 20 Feb 2004 17:23 GMT
I'm going to have surgery on Mar 30th.  I want to get this behind me.
jimhoney - 20 Feb 2004 18:03 GMT
> I'm going to have surgery on Mar 30th.  I want to get this behind me.

Sounds like the right course of action.  Standard or laparascopic?

jimhoney
TP3RUT - 21 Feb 2004 02:20 GMT
Standard
jimhoney - 21 Feb 2004 02:40 GMT
> Standard

How come?  People are saying great things about LRP on this list.

I got near-perfect results from standard RRP, but if I had it to do over
again I would probably go for LRP for easier recovery.

jimhoney
Alan Meyer - 20 Feb 2004 18:38 GMT
> I'm going to have surgery on Mar 30th.  I want to get this behind me.

Best of luck with it.

Some guys try to prepare by losing weight, getting in shape,
and practicing kegels.  I'm no doctor, but I can't help thinking
the body tolerates any violence better, and recovers faster, if
it's in good shape.
Wakeley Purple - 21 Feb 2004 01:32 GMT
>> I'm going to have surgery on Mar 30th.  I want to get this behind me.
>
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> the body tolerates any violence better, and recovers faster, if
> it's in good shape.

I was lucky to have been in great shape before I was diagnosed, and I kept
up a 20+ mile/week running "habit" right up to the surgery date. At 3 weeks
post-op I did a 5 mile run and have been running 15-20 miles/week for the
last two weeks. Everybody, including me, is impressed with how quickly I've
recovered.

However... still using two pads/day and struggling to keep erections going
(not complaining).

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Wake

PSA 3.8, 11/2003 @58yrs
Biopsy positive 5% in 1 of 10 cores
T1c Gleason 3+3
RRP 1/12/04
Pathology agreed with biopsy + Negative margins
Erection 1/30/04

TP3RUT - 21 Feb 2004 02:26 GMT
One other question.  I'm also a runner and was wondering if you had a lot of
leaking while running?
Wakeley Purple - 21 Feb 2004 21:26 GMT
> One other question.  I'm also a runner and was wondering if you had a lot
> of leaking while running?

Not any more than "normal". Interestingly, I think I leak less while
actually running than when I'm standing still. I think it might be the
natural tensing of the pelvic floor muscles (Kegel) when you run.

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Wake

PSA 3.8, 11/2003 @58yrs
Biopsy positive 5% in 1 of 10 cores
T1c Gleason 3+3
RRP 1/12/04
Pathology agreed with biopsy + Negative margins
Erection 1/30/04

Ron Carter - 22 Feb 2004 16:30 GMT
Also a runner.  I remember several years ago when George Sheehan (not
sure last name spelled correctly), a doc who wrote for Runners' World,
came down with prostate cancer, there was a spate of rumors suggesting
that running contributed to the development of the disease.  While I
can't buy that, I'm finding it interesting that so many runners and
otherwise fit people seem to get hit with this.  Anyway, it's
encouraging to see that some of were able to get back to it so
quickly.  I haven't decided on a treatment yet, but I was pretty much
figuring I'd be out of action for a couple of months or so.

> > One other question.  I'm also a runner and was wondering if you had a lot
> > of leaking while running?
>
> Not any more than "normal". Interestingly, I think I leak less while
> actually running than when I'm standing still. I think it might be the
> natural tensing of the pelvic floor muscles (Kegel) when you run.
Leonard Evens - 22 Feb 2004 23:32 GMT
> Also a runner.  I remember several years ago when George Sheehan (not
> sure last name spelled correctly), a doc who wrote for Runners' World,
> came down with prostate cancer, there was a spate of rumors suggesting
> that running contributed to the development of the disease.  

You spelled it right.  According to his biography at
www.georgesheehan.com/welcome
he was diagnosed in 1986, at age 67 or 68, before the advent of regular
PSA testing.  His cancer had already spread to his bones, and he
survived another 7 years.  I remember reading his column in Runner's
World regularly.   I don't remember any rumors about his cancer being
related to running, but back then I wasn't thinking much about my
prostate.

I suppose any stress on one's system could weaken the immune system,
particularly that of competitive long distance running.  But generally
running for exercise must do more good than harm, and I will remain
skeptical about any link between exercise and cancer until someone comes
up with convincing evidence otherwise.

> While I
> can't buy that, I'm finding it interesting that so many runners and
> otherwise fit people seem to get hit with this.  Anyway, it's
> encouraging to see that some of were able to get back to it so
> quickly.  I haven't decided on a treatment yet, but I was pretty much
> figuring I'd be out of action for a couple of months or so.
Wakeley Purple - 21 Feb 2004 22:26 GMT
> One other question.  I'm also a runner and was wondering if you had a lot
> of leaking while running?

I forgot to brag on myself: not yet 6 weeks post-op, this morning I ran 12
miles in less than 2 hours. I didn't have any issues related to the RRP,
but otherwise I was pretty wasted. It feels really good to be back doing
some serious running with my friends.

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Wake

PSA 3.8, 11/2003 @58yrs
Biopsy positive 5% in 1 of 10 cores
T1c Gleason 3+3
RRP 1/12/04
Pathology agreed with biopsy + Negative margins
Erection 1/30/04

TP3RUT - 21 Feb 2004 02:22 GMT
That is my plan...But I'm starting off on the foot.  I have the flu right now.
MH - 20 Feb 2004 18:41 GMT
> I'm going to have surgery on Mar 30th.  I want to get this behind me.

It's a good feeling to have made a decision, as I remember.  Now... you have
a month to get yourself prepared.  I spent the month before walking as much
as I could.... exercising... running... just trying to get myself into the
best physical shape possible.  I feel sure it helped with my recovery.

Don't ever look back.....

Best of luck to you, guy!
MikeH
Tee Doubleyou - 20 Feb 2004 19:46 GMT
>I'm going to have surgery on Mar 30th.  I want to get this behind me.

Good luck to you. I hope that you will have an experienced surgeon.
Mine was absolutely amazing.
I almost forgot about my surgery which took palce last than three
months ago. I am 100% continent (thanks to him and Kegel) and 95%
potent.
Tee
Outlivecancer - 21 Feb 2004 07:17 GMT
Hey good luck, should go fine,working out helped me but the preoperative
physical really opened my eyes,I had emphasema,high chol.,so quit smoking
but lightened up on weight lifting as I had a hernia that would have stopped
operation.My wife and sister bought me paints to take my mind off op and wife
and were busy....Take Care.
Steve Kramer - 21 Feb 2004 23:05 GMT
Congratulations on making the choice.  Let us hope that two years from now
you will consider it behind you.

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Prostate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .3  .4  .8
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .3 .2  .2  .2 .3
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48
PSA  .1
Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03

> I'm going to have surgery on Mar 30th.  I want to get this behind me.
SexyHeSays - 28 Feb 2004 05:57 GMT
>I'm going to have surgery on Mar 30th.  I want to get this behind me.

>Subject: I've decided
>From: nutybuddy49@aol.comnojunk  (Nutybuddy49)
>Date: 2/20/2004 12:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20040220122301.22698.00000058@mb-m10.aol.com>
>
>I'm going to have surgery on Mar 30th.  I want to get this behind me.

Congratulations on your decision, guy!

I had my RP on January 7, 'suffered' for 2 weeks with the catheter, and at the
present time, I'm 95% continent (only minor drips), and experiencing erratic
erections, but fully expect those to return in time.  I'm alive, cancer-free,
and wouldn't have it any other way!

Good luck with your surgery - this board is a GREAT source of information,
experience, knowledge, and (emotional) support!

Rus
Massachusetts
 
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