Bob, like I told Aribet, I checked into this bullshit claim and found
that none of the anti-vac liars who spew this yarn have actually
identified the vaccine that triggered this.

Jimmy can feel free to do so, with appropriate links.

Wrong.  Your search - jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net There is strong evidence that
the world wide flu epidemic was started - did not match any documents.

No matter what you think, Jan. That doesn't make the facts any
different.

An No those other vaccines didn't not cause the Flu Deaths.

But he did precisely what I predicted.

Also note how he has not identified the vaccine that he claims caused
this.

I was curious about it, so I spent some time Googling the issue. What
I learned was that none of the pro-infectious disease merchants if
disability and death have ever identified the vaccine. They mention
"vaccine" and then prattle on about several, none of which were in use
at the time. The usual suspects regurgitate their customary bilge,
without care for proof.

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Thank you for the definition of "dynamize".

I repeat it here for those who did not see your response:

Dynamize Me! Medical Quackery Past And Present
a feature by glen callender ufa

In 1909, an unusual new theory of healing appeared on the American
medical scene. It was called "spondylotherapy," and its creator, Dr.
Albert Abrams, claimed that this technique enabled him to diagnose and
cure disease, simply by rapidly and percussively hammering a patient's
spine. In spite of a critical response from the medical establishment,
Abrams was quick to find supporters for his revolutionary theory, and
spent years touring and explaining (for a considerable fee, of course)
the wonders of this technique to scores of budding spondylotherapists.
A few years later, a new breakthrough from Dr. Abrams rocked the medical
world, and if the first one sounded implausible, this one absolutely
took the cake. This time, Abrams had invented a machine, called the
"dynamizer," that could, based on a single drop of blood from a patient
or even a signature, determine not only the illness(es) with which the
patient was afflicted, but the patient's age, sex, race, and even
religion! Abrams derived these fascinating medical and personal insights
by simply placing the blood or handwriting sample in the dynamizer,
which was connected by means of an electrode to the forehead of a
healthy male lab assistant, who stood stripped to the waist, facing
West, under dim lighting conditions. The dynamizer was switched on, and
Abrams percussed the abdomen of his lab assistant, interpreting the
vibratory patterns this produced into his diagnosis and personality
profile.
Again, the medical community was skeptical of Abrams, but this didn't
stop him from amassing an even larger following of patients and
practitioners. Imagine their delight when Abrams introduced them to yet
another device, the "occiloclast," which could painlessly cure the
diseases the dynamizer diagnosed! By emitting electronic vibrations that
precisely matched the "electronic vibration frequency" of the disease(s)
a patient had, the occiloclast was able to effectively "shatter" the
disease(s) and make the person healthy again! And what's more, for an
extra fee this remarkable process could even be done over the phone!
Thousands of Abrams practitioners were soon paying considerable sums of
money to lease these remarkable devices, so that they could heal
thousands more patients eager to forsake stodgy old modern medicine for
the painless and wonderfully high-tech Abrams techniques. As one might
expect, Abrams became very, very rich.
The cracks were soon to form, however, as the medical community was not
at all pleased to see Abrams' wacky theory enjoying such popularity.
Skeptical doctors sent Abrams a variety of blood samples that were
purported to be from human patients, but were in reality taken from a
variety of animals. Thus, a sheep was diagnosed as suffering from
hereditary syphilis, and an 11-week-old rooster was diagnosed with a
sinus infection and bad teeth. Another case was diagnosed as "general
cancer and tuberculosis of the genito-urinary tract." Clearly, something
was not quite right about the Abrams method.
Then, one of Abrams' occiloclasts was opened to reveal a collection of
useless electrical components wired haphazardly together in a totally
meaningless manner, prompting physicist Robert Millikan to declare,
"They are the kind of device a ten-year-old boy would build to fool an
eight-year-old." The cracks were quickly growing wider.
By the time these criticisms started to effect his medical empire in
early 1924, however, Abrams didn't much care. He was too busy dying of
pneumonia and leaving behind an estate valued at over two million
dollars, which speaks volumes both to the healing powers of the medical
devices he created, and the gullibility of his followers.
The unlikely story of Dr. Albert Abrams, as well as the exploits of some
of history's other great con artists, will be featured in an upcoming
A&E TV special entitled Scams, Schemes and Scoundrels on March 30. This
locally-produced program is hosted by noted skeptic James Randi, and
features contributions from two SFU professors, Barry Beyerstein
(Psychology) and Martin Laba (Communications). The Peak recently spoke
with Dr. Beyerstein about this TV production, medical quackery in the
1990s, and the psychology of the scam.
Peak: What kind of medical quackery is going on today that could be
compared to Albert Abrams? Is there a 90's equivalent of the Abrams
cult? Beyerstein: "That's the saddest part about it-- if he changed his
clothes and clipped his beard a little differently, he could be, and is,
incarnate right downtown in Vancouver right now... If you pick up any
issue of Common Ground, the local New Age newspaper, and open the back
pages, you'll find quacks who are every bit as ridiculous, egregious and
blatant as Abrams ever was, and they're making just as good a living as
he did, and with no more to sell than he had. It's sort of depressing
that people never seem to learn from the past."
Peak: What about the regulatory bodies that monitor the health
industries? Have they learned from past experiences with Abrams and his
ilk? Is it much more difficult to be a quack medical con artist in the
1990s? Beyerstein: "Well, you have to be a little more circumspect these
days, because the FDA in the United States and the Health Protection
branch of Health and Welfare Canada are a little bit more vigilant these
days about medical devices that people sell without proving their safety
and efficacy. I've had lots to do with the people from Health and
Welfare Canada, and I respect them-- they're trying to do a good job,
but they are absolutely inundated by the "Alternative Medicine"
movement, and they are so understaffed that they have to go after a few
select cases for the publicity value, rather than really do the job they
would like to. I feel sorry for them. It must be extremely frustrating
and easy to burn out in a situation like that, because they know they're
doing important work, and they're just not given the resources to carry
it out. So they have to pick and choose only the most egregious and the
most potentially harmful of these things. As a result of this, just
bilking people out of their money often isn't enough [to get shut down],
you have to bilk them in a way that is actively harmful."
The line between relatively harmless and harmful bilking is sometimes
very fuzzy indeed. In these pages you will see a gallery of questionable
medical devices from throughout the Twentieth Century, and, taking a bit
of inspiration from Dr. Beyerstein, a selection of today's questionable
devices as advertised in the March 1997 issue of Common Ground. Clearly,
the art of the con is far from dead, and researchers such as Beyerstein
are very interested in the mechanisms that underlie scams, from the
simple to the complex.
Peak: The Scams, Schemes and Scoundrels TV program also deals with
famous con artists such as Victor Lustig, who managed to sell the Eiffel
Tower for scrap twice, and Hans Van Meegeren, who pulled off some of the
most remarkable art hoaxes of the Twentieth Century. Do you think this
kind of show is important in that it makes the public more aware of how
unlikely and off-the-wall a scam can be? Beyerstein: "Yes, I think it
is. On one hand, the stories are wonderful, it's great to be
entertaining and informative at the same time. On the other hand, do I
think that it will cause people to think twice and not be taken
themselves? Probably not, because one of the things I've found in my
work as a skeptic is that people keep asking, "can't you give us a
blueprint so we can't be taken?" The answer is no! As soon as you think
you've got a blueprint that will protect you, you're the biggest mark in
town. You think you've seen it all, and you think you'll recognize [a
scam] coming at you... but in fact, you've only let your guard down."
Peak: So, it's very hard to protect people from intelligently crafted
scams, then? Beyerstein: "While it's true that you can teach people some
general principles that do seem to be general to a variety of scams, one
of the things we've found is that people have trouble applying these
principles to specific situations. In other words, you can give people
general principles, but if the situation [they encounter] is just a
little different, and it appeals to the "wishful thinking" aspect, which
most cons do, they still get taken. And the irony is, people who get
conned by a con artist often get conned a second time! It's that bad--
they go looking for the con artist, wanting to wring his neck for taking
them and making fools out of them, and they end up going away leaving
more money in his lap. That's one of the reasons I'm fascinated by all
of this as a psychologist."
Peak: If further TV projects on the subject of scams and quackery
materialize, are there any particular scams or subjects you'd like to
explore? Beyerstein: "If [the producers of the show] were to do more, I
would personally like to spend more time on the psychology of the con--
it isn't just gullible fools that get taken! I'd like to explore why
these things succeed-- what all the successful perpetrators seem to have
in common psychologically, what elements successful scams have in common
that makes them work, and what the marks who were taken have in common--
there's a lot of interesting psychology there, and I think it could be
done up for TV in an interesting and entertaining manner."
The TV Special Scams, Schemes and Scoundrels will be airing on A&E at
5pm and 9pm Sunday March 30.

It's from the same root as "dynamics".

Perhaps this will help:

           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy#Dilution_and_succussion

                Old Bill.

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A few notes for you (known as "t" or tools@gmail.com)

When you post your response at the 'top' of the post that you are
responding to, you upset the order of the thread of the message.

Please post responses at the bottom, as I have done here.

As regards the subject of my enquiry and your answer, I asked "what
exactly is a 'dynamized' medication and what is the process of
'dynamizing' that you speak of."

Your response is:  "You are just a troll, why don't you look it up?",
and the most puzzling of all, "Why do you think you need to know? You
are not interested in becoming a Homeopath are you? Since you never use
Homeopathic Medicine, you have no need to understand."

Is it necessary to be into homeopathic medicine in order to know the
meaning of 'dynamized' medications?

I have no opinions one way or the other about any particular form of
medicine -- I am an engineer and not a health-care professional.  Think
of me this way:  "I am a 78 year old student."  I am very interested in
any form of health care that will alleviate sickness among our
population.

And so:  Please tell me:  What exactly is the meaning of 'dynamize' as
regards to medications.  Tell me, that is, if you know.

earle
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Look on the bright side.... I didn't snip ALL of your comments.

Citizen Jimserac

Yes!!

1: Lorenz I, Schneider EM, Stolz P, Brack A, Strube J.
Influence of the diluent on the effect of highly diluted histamine
on
basophil
activation.
Homeopathy. 2003 Jan;92(1):11-8.
PMID: 12587990 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2: Sainte-Laudy J, Belon P.
Use of four different flow cytometric protocols for the analysis of
human basophil activation. Application to the study of the biological
activity of high dilutions of histamine.
Inflamm Res. 2006 Apr;55 Suppl 1:S23-4. No abstract available.
PMID: 16705375 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3: Sainte-Laudy J, Boujenaini N, Belon P.
Confirmation of biological effects of high dilutions. Effects of
submolecular concentrations of histamine and 1-, 3- and 4-
methylhistamines on
human basophil activation.
Inflamm Res. 2008;57 Suppl 1:S27-8. No abstract available.
PMID: 18345504 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4: Sainte-Laudy J, Belon P.
Improvement of flow cytometric analysis of basophil activation
inhibition by high histamine dilutions. A novel basophil specific
marker: CD 203c.
Homeopathy. 2006 Jan;95(1):3-8.
PMID: 16399248 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

You Want some more??!!

There's LOTS!!

But, then again, REAL SCIENCE, does NOT impress you when it is
supportive of Homeopathy, eh Bowdie?
Could your BIAS have overtaken your reason....by any chance?

Citizen Jimserac