> I live in California in the San Francisco Bay area. The commonly-used
> nasal spray "fluticasone propionate" is sold in the US under the trade
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> Why should I buy *any* pharmaceuticals in the US?
Hello Earle,
Generics have been available in the US for many years. I've seen them listed at
Medline.
I think generics become available when the patient expires. (but read the links I
provide and/or type generic drugs into Google, you'll get the FDA web page and
some recent news items) and more.
The doctor has to specify the generic name on the prescription.
(Doctors often only remember the patented name and/or don't have the time to check
large pharma book and/or their copy is not up to date). They know more about the
name brand ones, as in strengths (dose).
Our durgstores will usually tell us if there is a generic. Yours might not.
Because if people find out, they may have to stock both versions and strengths.
(cost more to keep inventory or special order).
I've heard of pharmacies which charge the same for the generic as the name brand.
People have to be persistent and inside that both the generic name and "sub
generic description) are on the lable.
And the latter (name) matches (I think) the name brand
The ones I had in mind, are new parckaging -= rub on gels instead of tablets. So
I doubt I'll find generics on those for a while.
They discontinued (ordering) a certain brand of anti-inflammatory. After calling
around, many said "we don't carry, an/or never heard of", so I called Walmart.
They ordered it in for me.
I think Fig (Socks wife) said they buy at Price Club and may have also mentioned
Walgreen's (not sure). And not sure if they're generics or not.
Research and Shop around
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginformation.html
"Drug Information: Browse by first letter of generic or brand name drug"
The random finds were when viewing lists of meds or finding one medicine, which
referred to a "generic"page (for a specifc drug).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluticasone_propionate
m fluticasone used to treat asthma and allergic rhinitis.
GlaxoSmithKline currently markets fluticasone propionate as Flovent (US and
Canada) and Flixotide (EU) for asthma, and as Flonase (US and Canada) Flixonase
(EU) for allergic rhinitis, as well as a combination of fluticasone and salmeterol
as Advair (US and Canada) or Seretide (EU). The rest is patent issues, ending
with the following "The ruling meant that sales of generic versions of Flonase
could proceed."
http://www.fda.gov/cder/ogd/ (this _may_ be of help)
* Welcome from Office of Generic Drugs' Director
* What are Generic Drugs?
o Generic Drugs: Questions and Answers
* Is a Generic Product Available for a Brand Name Drug?
* Question based Review (QbR) for Chemistry, Manufacturing, and Controls (CMC)
evaluation of an Abbreviated New Drug Application (ANDA)
* News and Announcements updated (12/18/2008)
o Recent Federal Register Notices
* Generic Drug Approvals updated (12/15/2008)
* List of Authorized Generic Drugs updated (12/22/2008)
* Requesting an Electronic Common Technical Document (eCTD) Number updated
(5/28/2008)
* Therapeutic Equivalence of Generic Drugs
* Dissolution Methods for Drug Products
* Generic Drug Development, Abbreviated New Drug Application (ANDA)
Submissions and Review Information updated (8/20/2008)
o Model Bioequivalence Data Summary Tables
* Regulations for Abbreviated New Drug Application Submissions
* Paragraph IV Drug Product Applications updated (1/23/2009)
* Generic Drug Petition Tracking updated (8/18/2008)
* Organization and Contact Information updated (12/17/2008)
* Freedom of Information
* How to Contact Us
What are Generic Drugs?
A generic drug is identical, or bioequivalent to a brand name drug in dosage form,
safety, strength, route of administration, quality, performance characteristics
and intended use. Although generic drugs are chemically identical to their
branded counterparts, they are typically sold at substantial discounts from the
branded price. According to the Congressional Budget Office, generic drugs save
consumers an estimated $8 to $10 billion a year at retail pharmacies. Even more
billions are saved when hospitals use generics.<end of quoted text>
I gave up on searching the internet. Too much advertising. it's an "exercise in
frustration", so I understand why you buy elsewhere. However, our government
(apparently ) is being threatened to be cut off our bulk buying, by
pharmactueicals unless we ( our government) stop the drug stores cross border
shipping.
I don't know if anything I've posted helps. Thanks for your reply.
J
Earle Jones - 29 Jan 2009 06:03 GMT
> > I live in California in the San Francisco Bay area. The commonly-used
> > nasal spray "fluticasone propionate" is sold in the US under the trade
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> Medline.
> I think generics become available when the patient expires.
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J:
Small Freudian slip! I hope you mean "when the patent expires" and not
"when the patient expires"!!
earle
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> (but read the
> links I
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> I don't know if anything I've posted helps. Thanks for your reply.
> J
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Thanks, J -- I know all about generics. Yes they are available from
many sources here in the US, and I could spend more time investigating
Walmart, Costco, etc.
But, sitting on my bottom at my computer, I can find both generics and
on-patent pharmaceuticals in dozens of places around the world.
I take two prescription drugs for high blood pressure --
hydrochlorothiazide (a very common generic diuretic) and Lisinopril (a
fairly common ACE inhibitor -- also now off-patent.)
I have found a Canadian source that has both drugs in one pill -- 12.5
mg of HCTZ and 10 mg of Lisinopril -- for US$30 for 120 pills. That is
cheaper than the co-pay that my insurance company has for these drugs.
In my opinion, our health-care system is fractured, if not entirely
broken. Especially in the costs of medications. I will continue to buy
my own medications anywhere I can find them at the best price.
After all, how many of these products are really manufactured in the US?
My guess is damn few. I read recently that a very significant fraction
of all medications are manufactured in Ireland -- of all places!
I don't think our government will stop cross-border purchases. If it
didn't happen under George Bush, it is not likely to happen under Obama.
Thanks for your links -- I am already on the mailing list for FDA
pharmaceutical info. Every time a US drug goes off-patent, I receive a
notification.
Thanks for your valuable contributions to this mailing list,
earle
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J - 30 Jan 2009 10:39 GMT
> In article, J <xewsnswex@nalid;"no> wrote:
> >
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> earle
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Brain to finger miscommunication and failure to review post before posting.
Sorry, Earle.
It's the Cdn government ( & Customs) was supposed to be trying to stop cross border
shopping.
I expect they have higher priorities now. But don't take my word for it.
This dated 2007 has comparisons. It says our generics are more expensive
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/commerce.web/product_files/costburden2.pdf
I'm glad to hear you've solved your problem and (are) keeping informed from the
FDA.
J