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High dose vitamin C                                                                                                                                                             therapy.

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Old Bill - 30 Oct 2008 19:52 GMT
The therapy of high dose vitaminC [ascorbic acid]
has been rousing controversy since Linus Pauling
first wrote about it over 30 years ago,
and a number of messages on this newsgroup
have been highly critical whenever the subject
has been raised.Here is some more information
about it which you may not be aware of.

                     [QUOTE]

"Dr Ewan Cameron ...   ...   ...   has during the past
two years treated over two hundred terminal cancer
patients with ascorbic acid alone.He has usually
given the patient ten grams of ascorbic acid by
intravenous infusion over a period of about ten days.
The patients are usually by that time well enough to
go home,and they continue to receive about ten grams
by mouth. Dr Cameron is now preparing a paper
describing his experience with the first fifty patients.
He has reported to me that a small fraction,
perhaps ten per cent of the patients appear to have
complete remission of the disease.Also in a small
fraction of the patients,perhaps less than ten per cent,
the cancerous growth  seems to react in a striking way
to the administration of the ascorbic acid,with walling-off
and necrosis of the tumor. With most of the patients the
principal effect that Dr Cameron has observed  is a great
decrease in the amount of pain suffered and a greatly
increased sense of well-being,with disappearance of
cachexia,restoration of appetite,and return of the ability
to carry on a normal life. Some of the patients have,
after a period of some months,suddenly become very
seriously ill dying in a day or two. Dr Cameron has
reported on the decrease in pain,which permits patients
to stop taking morphine,   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...  ".

                    [END QUOTE]

Dr Ewan Cameron worked at the Vale of Leven District
General Hospital, Scotland, where he was senior
consultant surgeon.

The above quotation comes from a copy of a letter from Linus Paulin
to Lewis Thomas, President of  Memorial Sloane-Kettering
Research Center, asking for a research study to be carried out
into the use of ascorbic acid as a means of decreasing the incidence
of cancer and also treating cancer.The letter runs to about three
and a half pages  and can be seen through this link

http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/MM/B/B/G/L/_/mmbbgl.pdf

Pauling's request to Thomas was rejected.
No studies were conducted.

A much fuller statement about vitamin C was written by
Cameron and Pauling together, but it is long and in
parts technical.It includes a table of all the cancers treated
compared witha control group of 1000 patients
The conclusion is good and not too technical.This link will
take you there:

            http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=2QduA19d_X8C&pg=PA1361&lpg=PA1361&dq=ewan+cam
eron&source=web&ots=ISDmx8gXGq&sig=QLJRnTwZGks1_6GwCc-yl76hp1M&hl=en&sa=X&oi=boo
k_result&resnum=5&ct=result#PPA1415,M1


The letter and paper which I have quoted are from the 1970's and it
could be argued that many important advances have been made
over the last 30 years which now supersede Vitamin C therapy
which in any case was never a part of mainstream medicine.
Well,the last bit about mainstream medicine may be true,
but I am not so sure about  the first bit.
Here's one reason:

Dr Cameron breaches the final taboo, Death and the mode of dying:-
"Dr Cameron has reported on the decrease in pain,which permits
patients to stop taking morphine   ...".

Has that been superseded? Sadly no.Terminal cancer
patients still have morphine.

Let's take another look:

"...He has usually given the patient ten grams of ascorbic acid
by intravenous infusion over a period of about ten days.
The patients are usually by that time well enough to
go home ..."
" ...a great decrease in the amount of pain suffered ..."
" ...a greatly increased sense of well-being, ..."
"....disappearance of cachexia   ..."
"...restoration of appetite ..."
"...return of the ability to carry on a normal life ..."

{cachexia means 'wasting']

These were not newly diagnosed patients,they were
terminal patients.
"... patients who in the opinion of at least two independent
    clinicians the continuance of any conventional form of
    treatment would offer no benefit.  ...  "
They had nothing to lose, they had everything to gain,
and some of them did.

I do not think that it matters that this was thirty years ago.
Here you have a doctor who sees his terminally ill
patients rising from their death beds and going home.
Patients, for whom the continuance of any
conventional form  of treatment would offer no benefit,
miraculously recovering and in a few days going home.

Sooner or later most came back but even then their pain had
greatly decreased and they did not need morphine.

Despite the  criticisms which vitaminC therapy has met over the
years,it is not universal criticism.The therapy is used in various
clinics around the world,and its usage is increasing.

Many doctors use it - orthodox practitioners not back-street
snake oil pedlars, not just Naturopaths and Medical Herbalists,
but orthodox medical practioners, some of them distinguished,
and they practice in many countries.

This link will show a list of some of the practioners and organisations
all over the world who use this therapy:
[I do not know how up-to-date it is]

     http://www.canceraction.org.gg/index2.htm
[hint: on the banner on the left click on "in extremis"]

Some of the names are well-known e.g. Dr Charles Simone.
He is an M.D. and also the rare Master of Medical Science
[MMS].He is an international consultant and was called in
as consultant for President Ronald Reagan's colon cancer.
He later received this message:

"Nancy joins me in sending you our best wishes for the success of your
vital work.
  Ronald Reagan, President.".

When the most powerful man in the world falls ill,he gets
the best physician  to treat him.
He got Dr Simone; Dr Simone also practices vitamin C therapy,
prescribing  Vitamin C = 350 to 6,000 mg per day  as part
of his ten-point plan.

http://www.drsimone.com/report.htm

[scroll down to Table 2.]

Such people realize the importance nourishment
has for good health,and they recognise that there are other
successful therapies available which are not so damaging as
those that mainstream medicine has to offer even today.

"The American Dr Hugh Riordan M.D. is probably the world expert on this
approach.
His institute, The Center for the Improvement of Human Functioning,
has just completed a 10 year research project on high dose intravenous C
and cancer, and his patented method recently underwent Phase I clinical
trials at the University of Nebraska medical school hospital.
These trials have established the non-toxicity of this treatment for cancer,
and Dr Riordan is now proceeding with a Phase II clinical trial,
under the auspices of the National Institutes of Health, using therapeutic
doses of vitamin C on Renal Adenoma." [see canceraction above].

I hope that this message and links are of interest to you,
and will give a better understanding of this subject.
I am not a doctor nor do I have any medical qualifications.
I am here as a patient,but everything  I have quoted
comes from reliable sources not from charlatans.

Always consult your doctor,but consult  sensibly from an informed
position.The internet is an instrument of research only available
widely in recent years,and is a means by which Joe Public can
reach the wisdom of the world like never before.He can also be
beguiled by charlatans. Judge carefully and be better informed.

Best Wishes,
Old Bill.
J - 31 Oct 2008 00:01 GMT
> The therapy of high dose vitaminC [ascorbic acid]
> has been rousing controversy

Not any more,. You're a loonie and pita.
J
ALICIA PARKER - 01 Nov 2008 14:56 GMT
J you're the loonie, it won't be long till you contract the big C, J..., and
we will see if you remember vit c.

> > The therapy of high dose vitaminC [ascorbic acid]
> > has been rousing controversy
>
> Not any more,. You're a loonie and pita.
> J
Tranregard - 02 Nov 2008 05:26 GMT
ALICIA PARKER:
> J you're the loonie, it won't be long till you contract the big C, J..., and
> we will see if you remember vit c.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> Not any more,. You're a loonie and pita.
>> J

Livon Labs makes an oral Vit C that is more bioavailable than
intravenous infusions.
Old Bill - 08 Nov 2008 18:33 GMT
|J you're the loonie, it won't be long till you contract the big C, J..., and
| we will see if you remember vit c.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
| > Not any more,. You're a loonie and pita.
| > J

I hope that does not happen,Al, and I'm sure you do too.
Just pay not attention to her is best.
Besides,my message was not for her because I know from
experience what her "knee-jerk" reaction to this subject is.
We have over 500 subscribers to this newsgroup| most of
whom never write in; what Alex once aptly described
as "The Silent Majority".If any of them ever wanted
to know something about high dose vitaminC therapy
I hope they will have read my message with interest.

Best Wishes,
Old Bill.
J - 08 Nov 2008 20:34 GMT
> Just pay not attention to her is best.
> Besides,my message was not for her because I know from
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> to know something about high dose vitaminC therapy
> I hope they will have read my message with interest.

If you knew 500 subscribers, you'd be emailing them, instead of posting for
them to read.
Since you brought up the topic, the clinical trial run by Cameron.

Cameron's patients were started on vitamin C when he labeled them
"untreatable" by other methods, and their subsequent survival was compared to
the survival of the "control" patients after they were labeled untreatable by
their doctors. DeWys reasoned that if the two groups were comparable, the
lengths of time from entry into the hospital to being labeled untreatable
should be equivalent in both groups.
However, he found that Cameron's patients were labeled untreatable much
earlier in the course of their disease which means that they entered the
hospital before they were as sick as the other doctors' patients and would
naturally be expected to live longer.
He "fudged" the clinical trial by having them have better care earlier and
longer. Not the Vitamin C.

1994, Linus Pauling, PhD died of  prostate cancer at age 93.

The only value IV Vitamin C has is to sell books to the desperate and naive.
J
Vern - 10 Nov 2008 04:49 GMT
The only value IV Vitamin C has is to sell books to the desperate and
naive.
> J

In case no one has noticed, the medical establishment has a dismal
record of solving the cancer problem and finding a cure.  Intolerant
attitudes and closed-minded thinking about new approaches are not
helpful.
Old Bill - 19 Nov 2008 21:57 GMT
                            [snip]

| | If you knew 500 subscribers, you'd be emailing them, instead of posting
for
| them to read.
| Since you brought up the topic, the clinical trial run by Cameron.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
| He "fudged" the clinical trial by having them have better care earlier and
| longer. Not the Vitamin C.

                       [snip]
|| J

Oh dear, I'm getting slow. Sent on the 8th and only now it hits me.
I should have guessed - delete that - I should have *known*.
All the messages you've been sending and all the links you've
flooded us with,yet this one has no named source.
So please allow me to name it:

it's Quackwatch and your old mentor Barrett.
You made a straight lift.
No wonder you kept mum about the source.

Here's some interesting facts about this man,courtesy of
Ilena Rosenthall,whom I thank:

http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quackwatchwatch.htm

You can read about his 'credibility',and I guess yours is in the same pot.

Old Bill
J - 20 Nov 2008 01:52 GMT
> Oh dear, I'm getting slow. Sent on the 8th and only now it hits me.
> I should have guessed - delete that - I should have *known*.
> All the messages you've been sending and all the links you've
> flooded us with,yet this one has no named source.
> So please allow me to name it:

I have oither information and other sources. I've wasted enough time on this
topic.
Every country has its quack doctors.  Put an ad in several major newspapers that
you're looking for high dose IV injections of Vitamin C and theylll find you.
Or someone who knows who will, will contact you.
Good luck with it.
J
Old Bill - 20 Nov 2008 21:09 GMT
| > Oh dear, I'm getting slow. Sent on the 8th and only now it hits me.
| > I should have guessed - delete that - I should have *known*.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
| I have oither information and other sources. I've wasted enough time on this
| topic.

      You mean you've wasted everyone else's time
      with your ad hominem blather, and it's got
      you nowhere.

| Every country has its quack doctors.

       So does this newsgroup.

Put an ad in several major newspapers that
| you're looking for high dose IV injections of Vitamin C and they'll find
you.

         No need for that foolhardy action at all.
         I gave a list in my message
         of physicians who can give this therapy.
         Qualified MD's some of them eminent
         and of international renown.
         They have faith in their therapies,and
          I'll let you into a little secret --
          I'd sooner believe them than you.

| Or someone who knows who will, will contact you.
| Good luck with it.
| J

          Thank you for that sentiment.
          As I have no intention of following
          your stupid "advice" it does not apply.

                       Old Bill.
J - 21 Nov 2008 09:54 GMT
> of physicians who can give this therapy.
> Qualified MD's some of them eminent
>  and of international renown.

Have a relative advise, this group,  when your case is cited in PubMed
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
We may have a long wait.
J
For the record, Bill first asked about MGUS, August, 2006, as follows

Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer
From: J
Local: Tues, Aug 29 2006 7:22 pm
Subject: Re: The M protein

"Bill Thomas,Cardiff,UK" wrote:
> Question from a newbie.I carry the M protein.
> Monoclonal Gammopathy of Undetermined Significance.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> All replies acknowledged.
> Thanks.

> Bill Thomas,
> Cardiff, UK.

Here's what the myeloma foundation says about it
http://www.multiplemyeloma.org/about_myeloma/2.06.asp
MGUS is a common condition where a monoclonal protein is present.
However, there are no symptoms, other criteria for myeloma diagnosis are
absent, and no cause for the increased protein can be identified.
MGUS occurs in about 1% of the general population and in about 3% of normal
individuals over 70 years of age.
MGUS itself is harmless but over many years approximately 16% of individuals
with MGUS will progress to a malignant plasma cell disorder. [from the
archives]
J

Outcome of myeloma, overall and by stage
As with many other types of cancer, the outcome depends on how advanced your
cancer is when it is diagnosed.  In other words, the stage of your myeloma.
Another important factor in myeloma is your age and fitness, and the type of
treatment you have.  There are some very intensive treatments available for
myeloma and you have to be well enough to get through them if your doctor is
going to consider them for you.  Doctors do not discriminate on grounds of age
– it really is your fitness that is the issue.

Overall, about 55 out of every 100 people (55%) diagnosed with myeloma in
England and Wales live for at least a year after diagnosis. About 23 out of
every 100 (23%) live for at least 5 years.  And about 12 live for at least 10
years.

Like all survival statistics, these relate to people diagnosed some time ago -
in this case, up to 2001.  The picture may have improved since then. Figures
from another source say that about 29 out of every 100 people diagnosed will
live for at least 5 years. Another source says that even after the myeloma has
been treated and then come back again, about 22 out of every 100 live for at
least another 5 years after this first relapse.

Remember – myeloma can be very variable in how it behaves.  In some people, it
develops very slowly and so the prognosis will be better.  You really need to
discuss this with your own specialist.  It may be a while before your doctors
can say how your myeloma is likely to behave.  They will have to see how
things go and how the disease responds to treatment before making an educated
guess at your likely outlook.

If you are under 70 and well enough for intensive treatment, the picture is
better.  At least half of this group (50%) will live for at least 5 years.
About 20 out of every 100 of them will live for at least 10 years.

Other factors affecting outcome

There are other factors that can affect your prognosis, apart from the stage
of your cancer.  One consideration is how well you are overall.  Doctors call
this your ‘performance status’.  You may see this written PS.  A score of 0
means you are completely able to look after yourself.  A score of 1 means you
can do most things for yourself, but need some help.  The scores continue to
go up, depending on how much help you need. This is relevant to survival
because overall, the fitter people are, the better able they are to withstand
their cancer and treatment.  This is particularly important in myeloma because
fitter patients can withstand more intensive treatment.

There are several blood tests that have significance for the likely
development of your myeloma.  Your specialist will talk you through these.
One test is called beta 2 microglobulin.  A low level of this means your
myeloma is less active and so is likely to develop more slowly.  Another test
is called serum albumin – a higher level for this is linked to a better
outlook.  There are many other tests, including chromosome tests.

It is a good sign if your myeloma responds well to treatment and goes into
complete remission.  This means that there is no clinical sign of your disease
and no longer any abnormal immunoglobulin in your blood or urine.  Remission
can last for months or years, but unfortunately the myeloma is likely to come
back eventually and need further treatment.
http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=11279
Old Bill - 21 Nov 2008 22:04 GMT
'J' is attempting to suppress free discussion.
    [see below]

| > of physicians who can give this therapy.
| > Qualified MD's some of them eminent
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
| We may have a long wait.
| J

                  You're not hooking me on this one.It has nothing to do
                   with high-dose vitamin C therapy.
                  You are  Off Topic.

| For the record, Bill first asked about MGUS, August, 2006, as follows

           This has nothing to do with High-dose vitaminC therapy.
            You are Off Topic.

             Besides, my message is already"on the record"
             for all to read and has been since I wrote it.

| Here's what the myeloma foundation says about it

       [snip]

         All this is  Off Topic. It has nothing to do
          with high-dose vitaminC therapy.

         What is more this is a typical 'J' ploy:
         when you cannot win then digress
        to divert the thread into a safer area.
        It is an attempt to suppress free discussion.
        I'm not the only one to get the measure of
        this subscriber although it has taken time.
       Here is something I've told you before, J,

       When you're in a hole, stop digging.

       Try to remember it this time.

       Old Bill
J - 22 Nov 2008 10:18 GMT
>      'J' is attempting to suppress free discussion.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>         Old Bill

Having trouble with me asking you to have your doctor or doctors document
your case (and Vit C treatment and outcome) at www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ?

J
Old Bill - 22 Nov 2008 19:28 GMT
| >      'J' is attempting to suppress free discussion.
| >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
|
| J

Just to remind you, this is the topic:

      " Here you have a doctor who sees his terminally ill
patients rising from their death beds and going home.
Patients, for whom the continuance of any
conventional form  of treatment would offer no benefit,
miraculously recovering and in a few days going home."

You have not replied to it once.

Old Bill

             [End of Thread]
J - 21 Nov 2008 09:57 GMT
Recruiting is now taking place for certain clinical trials on cancer and
vitamin C.

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/search?term=cancer+AND+vitamin+C&submit=Search

CiinicalTrials.gov provides regularly updated information about
federally and privately supported clinical research in human volunteers.
csm7532@hotmail.com - 10 Nov 2008 15:17 GMT
> |J you're the loonie, it won't be long till you contract the big C, J...,
> and
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Best Wishes,
> Old Bill.

You ignore a vicious, criminal troll and use Usenet to reach a large
group, some of whom may be interested in your topic?  Any further show
of sense, and your frequent posting privileges will be revoked!  FWIW,
I don't have any great faith in the Vit C treatments, but haven't
written it off either.  The "conventional" pros may not have a great
success rate fighting cancer (that's open to debate), but even if not,
it doesn't mean "alternatives" get automatic authority.

---
CSM
Old Bill - 11 Nov 2008 18:27 GMT
On Nov 8, 11:33 am, "Old Bill" <matb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "ALICIA PARKER" <APA...@AOL.COM> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> |news:490A4AB1.A0FAD4C@execulink.com...
> | > Old Bill wrote:

> | > Not any more,. You're a loonie and pita.
> | > J
>
> > Best Wishes,
> Old Bill.

You ignore a vicious, criminal troll and use Usenet to reach a large
group, some of whom may be interested in your topic?  Any further show
of sense, and your frequent posting privileges will be revoked!
---
CSM

Guilty M'lud,her reply was intellectually bankrupt,
a result of the credibility crunch.
Old Bill
csm7532@hotmail.com - 14 Nov 2008 15:00 GMT
> <csm7...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> a result of the credibility crunch.
> Old Bill

I'll let you off with a caution, and a fine of 10 (re)pence.

I went so far as to look at J's reply.  She gets excited about there
being crime in Denver (where I don't actually live or work---I do both
in 'burbs) that I have not personally prevented.  What a twit!  For
the record, I do not work in law enforcement, and yet (unfathomably to
the very thick-witted) I *do* have objections to criminal behavior.
Every community I've lived in has had crime, some worse than others,
and I've never hooked or ventilated a perp!  Who'd have thought?
That's almost as bizarre as someone  enjoying ice cream but not
working at Breyers!  When I first joined this group, I thought she was
a bit of a mother hen, but the longer I've been here, the worse she's
looked.  Vicious, stupid, criminal, and yet still popular.  I guess it
proves how easily people can overlook serious character flaws at
times.

---
CSM
sheder1 - 15 Nov 2008 15:01 GMT
On Nov 14, 10:00 am, csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:

 ' When I first joined this group, I thought she was a bit of a
mother hen, but the longer I've been here, the worse she's
looked.  Vicious, stupid, criminal, and yet still popular.  I guess
it proves how easily people can overlook serious character flaws at
times.    '
You left out, "at times, dangerous !"
J - 15 Nov 2008 16:03 GMT
> You left out, "at times, dangerous !"

sheder aka turletrot dishonest withholding information...

------- Original Message --------
Subject: The Strife is Over........
Date: 19 Sep 2005 02:45:46 -0700
From: "turtletrot1" <munged>
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer

Franzi died Sunday evening, 18 September 2005 at 7:45 of the recurrent
rectal cancer.  He had been undergoing chemo (FOLFOX7) and the CEA
count was falling.  But he had to be in the less than 5% who would have
a perforation in the colon from the Avastin.  The chemo had to stop and
the CEA rose rapidly.  He was being nourished by TPN and because of the
impact on the immune system from the chemo, he developed a massive
infection behind the port.  In spite of a series of strong antibiotics,
the infection could not be stopped.  When they operated to remove the
port, his heart went crazy.  And so, after a bout of almost 3 weeks,
his heart gave out.
We appreciate the insight we received from Seph, J, and Mike.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Results of side effects of treatments for colorectal cancer
Date: 28 Sep 2005 11:04:41 -0700
From: "turtletrot1" <munged>
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer

My Franzi had recurrent rectal cancer.  Opted for FOLFOX7.  He was one
of the unlucky ones who developed a preforation in the colon from
Avastin.  (He already had a sigmoid colostomy) To heal the colon, he
had a port, and TPN for nutrition. Gained strenth, walked up and down
hospital hallways and came home. Then he ran a high fever and we went
back to hospital.  Yeast in blood.  Staph again.  Then MD's decided
that port must be infected.  It was.  In the OR to remove the port, his
heart went into atrial frib...He went to ICU and then was started on
"real food" in addition to the TPN.  Vomited first meal, aspirated and
they feared pneumonia. From then on, in 3 weeks, with about 5 different
antibiotics, various heart medicines, various blood tests and x-rays,
he gave up the battle.  The MD put on the death certificate pulminary
failure and pneumonia, but his lungs were clear. He really had
congestive heart failure.His heart was just unable to pump the blood to
the extremeties the day he died.  He only had pain and morphine the
last 3 days.  And only 2 mg. First it was every 4 hours, but that did
not last long enough, so it was changed to every 3 hours, and he had no
further discomfort.  He seldom opened his eyes.  The day he died, at
about 2:30 p.m. he really opened his eyes and reached for me as I was
leaning over him.  After that he never really woke again.  My daughter
and I said Good night to him as we had every evening, and said we would
see him early in the morning.  At about 8:00 p.m. the hospital called
and told me he was gone.  The nurse was hanging a new IV antibiotic
when he took a deep breath, and that was all.  Although I am so lost
without him, I am grateful that he was spared a long agonizing death
with the server pain that cancer can bring.  God is good, although we
always do not understand the way He works.  If he had not opted for the
FOLFOX7 and let nature take it's course, would we have had more good
times together...who knows.  And what would the end have been like.  I
thought I would share this with you, and those of you opting for
Avastin.  Consider carefully the side effects.  Make informed decisions.
sheder1 - 16 Nov 2008 14:04 GMT
> > You left out, "at times, dangerous !"
>
> sheder aka turletrot dishonest withholding information...

Withholding what?  What do you need to know......or care about ?
J - 16 Nov 2008 23:54 GMT
> > > You left out, "at times, dangerous !"
> >
> > sheder aka turletrot dishonest withholding information...
>
> Withholding what?  What do you need to know.... ?

The reposts spoke for themselves.
Nothing more at this time.
J
sheder1 - 17 Nov 2008 14:12 GMT
> > > > You left out, "at times, dangerous !"
>
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> Nothing more at this time.
> J

I went back and read.....still missing your point.   Because I only
wrote about Franzi and not my own CA history?   Or because I
appreciate some of what you do.  I do still belive you can be
dangerous when you advise others to second guess their doctors in line
with something you have found/read from other newsgroups.  Infomation
is one thing.  Suggesting is something else again.
J - 12 Nov 2008 00:37 GMT
> OYou ignore a vicious, criminal troll a

Worried about criminals?  Work on  your own community.
http://www.fortcollinsnow.com/article/20080722/NEWS/834418312/0/FRONTPAGE&parent
profile
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Tuesday, July 22, 2008
Sheriff's Office Arrests Man Accused of Assaulting Minors
The Larimer County Sheriff’s Department has arrested a Denver man, Matthew
Bynum, on counts of sexual assault on children, Internet luring of a child, and
of contributing to the delinquency of minors.
Bynum fled to Canada when the allegations surfaced, but with the help of
Canadian law enforcement,

http://www.metro-denvercrimestoppers.com/fbi_most.html
Metro Denver Crime Stoppers

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/co/denver/crime/

Denver violent crimes
Population: 554,636
                          MURDER  RAPE  ROBBERY  ASSAULT
REPORTED TOTAL  87         244         1,443         2,721

http://www.denverpost.com/denvercrimereport
FBI 2006-2007 crime statistics | Denver Homicides | Colorado Registered Sex
Offenders | Denver Crime Report

J
 
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