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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / May 2008Iron Restriction For Health
"Restriction of iron may have positive effects on health in general and aging in particular" Galaris D, Mantzaris M, Amorgianiotis C Oxidative stress and aging: the potential role of iron. [Journal Article] Hormones (Athens) 2008 Apr-Jun; 7(2):114-22. According to the free radical theory of aging proposed by Denham Harman more than 50 years ago, oxidatively modified cellular components accumulate continuously in the cells during the organism's lifespan leading to progressive decline of cellular functions. Since then, it has been shown that proteins, lipids, nucleic acids and other cell components undergo reversible and/or irreversible oxidative modifications during aging. Moreover, oxidized cell components can undergo further oxidative modifications leading to formation of products that cell degradation systems are incapable of removing. Accumulation of such non-degradable aggregates further inhibits the functionality of degradation systems, thus aggravating the effects and leading to a vicious cycle. In this presentation, we propose that the availability of intracellular iron in its redox active form (labile iron) represents the main catalyst that mediates extensive oxidative modifications of cellular components and ultimately leads to their accumulation and consequent cellular dysfunction. It is tempting to speculate that regulated restriction of labile iron may have positive effects on health in general and aging in particular. Hormones (Athens, Greece) [Hormones (Athens)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > "Restriction of iron may have positive effects on health in general > and aging in particular" Oh the irony of iron supplements. I am sure Fe-injustice will FErociously iron it out for us Now don't tell him, as it may scare him, but the center of the eart is supposed to be mostly iron! Is there anything that t his man doesnt know ? Just look at some of the postings that he has made these last couple of days alt.support.chronic-pain 9 hours ago ouch. I hurt myself. alt.support.chronic-pain 9 hours ago ouch. I hurt myself. alt.support.chronic-pain 11 hours ago ouch. I hurt myself. alt.support.chronic-pain 20 hours ago Bloodletting And Diabetes alt.support.diabetes 20 hours ago Iron Restriction For Health alt.support.asthma 21 hours ago Iron Restriction For Health alt.support.cancer 21 hours ago Bloodletting And Diabetes alt.support.diabetes 2 days ago Oxidative Stress and Raynaud's sci.med.nutrition 2 days ago Headaches and Erythrocytosis alt.support.lupus 2 days ago I presume you are talking about Rustbucket aka Tommy Tinpot aka Tombit aka Numbnuts and other pseudonyms I have not seen. Yeah, he's brilliant, the Edgar Casey of the 21st century. That's why he is locked away in my kill file. I'm overcome with awe at his vast medical knowledge. <tongue firmly in cheek> >Is there anything that t his man doesnt know ? Just look at some of >the postings that he has made these last couple of days [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Oxidative Stress and Raynaud's sci.med.nutrition 2 days ago >Headaches and Erythrocytosis alt.support.lupus 2 days ago > On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:37:16 -0500, ironjust...@aol.com wrote > (in message [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I am sure Fe-injustice will FErociously iron it out for us Rust never sleeps. On May 16, 12:37 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: > "Restriction of iron may have positive effects on health in general....blah blah blah.. We get it, you have a strong opinion on this matter. We do get it. We understand your position. We do....but..... Did it ever occur to you that we find your repetition BORING! Did it ever occur to you that about 98% of us do not open your messages? On May 17, 8:49 am, sheder1 <turtletr...@bellsouth.net> wrote:Did it ever occur to you that about 98% of us do not open your messages? << Cancer is being targeted with iron chelators. Getting regression of tumors is a good thing. You didn't know that .. ? Write it .. down .. And remember this .. You also .. read .. the above .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On May 16, 12:37 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> > wrote:> "Restriction of iron may have positive effects on health in general....blah blah blah.. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Did it ever occur to you that about 98% of us do not open your > messages? Perhaps somebody could help me here ? Where did ironjustice get the idea that iron is something forbidden, because of something he read in the bible ? I mean where in the bible did it warn against the evils of iron ? >Perhaps somebody could help me here ? Where did ironjustice get the >idea that iron is something forbidden, because of something he read in >the bible ? I mean where in the bible did it warn against the evils of >iron ? It's in Genesis. Don't you remember? The verse where Sarah is pressing Abraham's galabiyeh and Abraham is standing behind her when he tells her that he is taking Hagar as second wife because of Sarah's infertility and she turns and belts him across the chops with the iron? Of course, they left a little out of Genesis 16:2; couldn't have little Ishmael reading that when he grew up. Forever more, one of the untold secrets of bar-mitzvah was that each father passed on to his sons "beware of the iron, when the wife is pressing the clothes it's time to go to the pub". Cheers, Alan Perhaps somebody could help me here ? Where did ironjustice get the idea that iron is something forbidden, because of something he read in the bible ? I mean where in the bible did it warn against the evils of iron ? << I'll give you a synopsis.. Real short .. Makes it easy .. Bible says .. "Don't kill .. don't eat meat .. if you do .. you will be killed by disease. In order to rid yourself of disease you must **give up of your own blood** and DON'T kill and eat the animals." . NOW today ? "Blood donation has been shown to be effective in more diseased people than any treatment in history." Cites for all of the above. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > Perhaps somebody could help me here ? Where did ironjustice get the > idea that iron is something forbidden, because of something he read [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > In order to rid yourself of disease you must **give up of your own > blood** and DON'T kill and eat the animals." . The Bible, a book full of blood and gore and bigotry and justified slavery and discrimination and mass murder and abject failure is not the place to get scientifically accurate information. Now, I think I'll go eat some honeycomb and fish.  SignaturePramesh Rutaji p297tongue6221@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply On May 20, 10:56 am, Pramesh Rutaji <p297tongue6...@newsguy.com> wrote:not the place to get scientifically accurate information. << Evidently it .. is .. ? "Blood donation has been shown to be effective in more diseased people than any treatment in history." Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > ironjust...@aol.com wrote: > > Perhaps somebody could help me here ? Where did ironjustice get the [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > I'll give you a synopsis.. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > In order to rid yourself of disease you must **give up of your own > blood** and DON'T kill and eat the animals." . How often should I donate an Omer of blood >> I'll give you a synopsis.. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >How often should I donate an Omer of blood Now, now, don't get frustrated. His last adminition is rather humorous. When you eat an animal, all he is saying is, " . . . Don't kill and eat the animals." Eat and kill! Donn Ok so I can see why you think that the bible prohibits meat, but what I want to know, is what passage of the bible have you seen which makes you think that it wrong to consume iron ? On May 21, 6:33 am, Thing <manji...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:what passage of the bible have you seen which makes you think that it wrong to consume iron ? << Few different passages .. You have to read the whole book to find them .. One of them off the top of my head is .. "The rust of your sins will eat your flesh like fire" .. It's all interpretation .. Knowing the meaning of words .. Sorta like knowing the meaning of .. keloid .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk On May 21, 8:45 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:It's all interpretation .. Knowing the meaning of words ..<< These are the passages I included to explain my conclusion. IRON 1) Deuteronomy 4:20 ; Brought you out of the iron smelting furnace 2) Deuteronomy 28:48 ; He will put an iron yoke upon your neck 3) Deuteronomy 32:41 ; When I sharpen my flashing sword and I grasp it in my hands in judgment 4) Joshua 8:31 ; Built an altar of uncut stones, on which no iron tool has been used 5) 2 Samuel 7:14 ; I will flog him with the rod of men 6) 2 Kings 19:28 ; I will put my hook in your nose and my bit in your mouth ,and I will make you return by the way you came 7) 1 Chronicles 21:11 ; Three days of the sword of the Lord 8) Job 5:15 ; He saves the needy from the sword in their mouth 9) Job 15:22 ; He is marked for the sword 10) Job 21:9 ; The rod of our Father is not upon them 11) Job 33:18 ; His life from perishing by the sword 12) Job 36:8-12 ; But if men are bound in chains, held fast by cords of affliction and do not listen they will perish by the sword 13) Job 40:19 ; His Maker can approach 'HIM' (hippopotamus- grass eater) with His sword 14) Psalm 7:12-13 ; He will sharpen his sword; he will bend and string his bow. He has prepared his deadly weapons; He makes ready his flaming arrows 15) Psalm 37:15 ; But their swords will pierce their own hearts 17) Psalm 89:32 ; I will punish their sin with the rod 18) Psalm 107:14 ; He brought them out of darkness...He releases the prisoners from darkness 19) Proverbs 5:3-5 ; For the lips of the adultress drip honey, and her speech is smoother than oil; but in the end she is as bitter as gall, sharp as a double-edged sword. Her feet go down to 'DEATH ' 20) Proverbs 5:23 ; Till an arrow pierces his liver 21) Isaiah 1:19 ; You will be devoured by the sword 22) Isaiah 3:25 ; Your men will fall by the sword; your warriors in battle 23) Isaiah 13;15 ; ALL who are caught will fall by the sword 24) Isaiah 24:10 ; The entrance to every house is barred 25) Isaiah 27:1 ; Our Father will punish with his sword, his fierce, great and powerful sword 26) Isaiah 28:22 ; Or your chains will become heavier 27) Isaiah 30:28 ; He places in the jaws of the peoples a bit that leads them away 28) Isaiah 31:8 ; Assyria will fall by a sword that is not of man; a sword not of mortals, will devour them. They will flee before the sword 29) Isaiah 45:14 ; Coming over to you in chains 30) Isaiah 54:16 ; See it is I who created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flames and forges a weapon fit for its work 31) Isaiah 65:12 ; I will destine you for the sword 32) Isaiah 66:16 ; For with fire and his sword your Father will execute judgment upon all His children 33) Jeremiah 25:16 ; They will stagger and go mad because of the sword 34) Jeremiah 25:29 ; For I am calling a sword upon all those who live on the earth 35) Jeremiah 25:31 ; He will bring judgment on all His children and put the wicked to the sword 36) Jeremiah 30:8 ; I will break the yoke off their necks and will tear off their bonds 37) Jeremiah 40:4 ; Today I am freeing you from the chains on your wrists 38) Lamentations 1:14 ; My sins have been bound into a yoke 39) Lamentations 2:21 ; My young men and maidens have fallen by the sword 40) Lamentations 3:7 ; He has walled me in so I cannot escape; he has weighed me down with chains 41) Ezekiel 13:14-15 ; I will tear down the wall you have covered with whitewash 42) Ezekiel 24:12 ; It has frustrated all efforts; its heavy deposit has not been removed, not even by fire 43) Ezekiel 39:23 ; And the nations will know that Israel went into exile for their sin and I handed them over to their enemies and they all fell by the sword 44) Daniel 11:33 ; They will fall by the sword 45) Amos 7:9 ; With my sword I will rise up against them 46) Amos 9:10 ; All the sinners will die by the sword 47) Micah 6:9 ; Heed the rod 48) Micah 6:14 ; Because what you store up I will give to the sword 49) Nahum 2:5 ; Yet they stumble and the protective shield is put in place 50) Nahum 2:13 ; And the sword will devour their young lions 51) Nahum 3:10 ; All her great men were put in chains 52) Nahum 3:15 ; The sword will cut you down 53) Habakkuk 3:11 ; The glint of Your flying arrows, the lightning of Your flashing spear 54) Matthew 12:29 ; How can anyone enter a strong mans' house and carry away his treasures unless he first ties up the strong man? 55) Hebrews 4:12 ; Sharper than any double edged sword , it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit 56) Jude 1:6 ; These he has kept in everlasting chains 57) Revelation 1:16 ; out of his mouth came a sharp double-edged sword 58) Revelation 2:12 ; These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword 60) Revelation 2:27 ; He will rule them with an iron sceptre 61) Revelation 6:4 ; to him was given a large sword 62) Revelation 19:15 : Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, "He will rule them with an iron scepter." Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On May 21, 6:33 am, Thing <manji...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:what passage of > the bible have you seen which makes you think that it wrong to consume [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk On May 21, 8:45 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:It's all interpretation .. Knowing the meaning of words ..<< <These are the passages I included to explain my conclusion. <IRON <1) Deuteronomy 4:20 ; Tried to take the good with the bad, but this goes too far. Nufs e nuf.....................<plonk> Tom don't you think that there are better places to discuss your interpretation of passages from the bible, than this place ? All that happens here is that people ridicule your beliefs. On a religious site, you can discuss in great detail your beliefs on this subject Tom don't you think that there are better places to discuss your interpretation of passages from the bible, than this place ? All that happens here is that people ridicule your beliefs. On a religious site, you can discuss in great detail your beliefs on this subject << YOU .. asked me a question .. I answered it .. Then YOU say .. "don't you think that there are better places to discuss your interpretation of passages".. You kind of a weird .. guy .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > Tom don't you think that there are better places to discuss your > interpretation of passages from the bible, than this place ? All that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You kind of a weird .. guy .. You two should really iron out your differences and not letting it go on until it gets too bloody. Perhaps we should lock you two up in a rust-ic cabin in iron ranges of Minnesota and fight it out >> Tom don't you think that there are better places to discuss your >> interpretation of passages from the bible, than this place ? All [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > on until it gets too bloody. Perhaps we should lock you two up in a > rust-ic cabin in iron ranges of Minnesota and fight it out Oops, you said "*iron* out your differences" - That must mean that you don't support iron in the diet. Way to go in supporting our rusty nut-job :) SignatureMarc Bissonnette Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com Largest ISP comparison site across Canada. Ferrous Cranus it must be lonely at the top > >> Tom don't you think that there are better places to discuss your > >> interpretation of passages from the bible, than this place ? All [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com > Largest ISP comparison site across Canada. |
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