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samgr8times@gmail.com - 27 Apr 2008 12:08 GMT
Hi,
I am Sam living in Mumbai, India; Male; aged 44 years....diagnosed in
March 2008 with Nasopharynx cancer stage 2 which hit me like a
thunderbolt out of the blue. I had a lymph node swelling the size of 2
inches by 1 inch wide in my left neck.....Doctors chose to go in for
chemo followed by IMRT. PET showed the malignant growth to be in the
neck (lymph node) and in the naso- pharynx only (cloud with silver
lining!). As a formality, I was advised to do a 2D- echo for my heart
and was stunned to know that my LV ejection fraction was low about 37.
The Chemo-doctor then had to alter the chemo to suit my new 'heart
condition'. I am still wondering from where this cropped up as I walk
daily in a hilly region for about 6-12 kms.(depending on my mood) at a
brisk pace of 6km/hr or more and cannot accept this so-called heart
condition. But have no choice. Meantime, i gotta take some tablets to
make things better.
I completed my 2nd chemo and was pleasantly surprised to find myself
with no side effects what so ever other than hair loss. Chose to make
Telly Savali my hero and shaved off in toto! Like the new look.
As I write this, the neck swelling has gone completely and the growth
which was visible by endoscope thruogh the nose is gone 90-95%.
Expecting to start IMRT from 1st week May for 38 sessions and I dont
know what side-effects to expect. The doc is after to fit a PEG in my
stomach (gastrostomy); he says that eating discomfort will set-in
after 3-4 weeks of radiation and he has not seen any patient without
one. Another doc has advised me to make it my call as and when
required as the fitting is done over the week-end. I have been painted
with a very scary image of blisters all over my mouth with total
redness, even water creates a burning sensation also??!! In the IMRT,
the doc will be able to save the right side salivary glands so mouth
dryness should reduce. I am working with some mind-programming
techniques which do help in increasing the positivity...is it possible
to have nil side-effects during radiation as i would like to play for
it....making all this a good learning and application experience.

waiting for radiation updates...

sam
J - 27 Apr 2008 12:48 GMT
> Hi,
> I am Sam living in Mumbai, India; Male; aged 44 years....diagnosed in
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> sam

Hello sam and welcome.
Mayo clinic says "The ejection fraction may decrease when the heart muscle
has been damaged, such as due to:
   * Heart attack
   * Heart-muscle disease (cardiomyopathy)
   * Heart valve problems  From:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/ejection-fraction/AN00360
Heart valves problems and cardiomyopathy can be congenital; genetically
inherited. We know that from very healthy runners or sports people who
collapse suddently; no warning.  Other potential causes are mentioned here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiomyopathy
If it's a heart value problem, surgery, if possible must wait now.
Altering the chemo dose may work well for you as chemo can potentiate the
RT (effect and side effects).
It is very important that you get your teeth checked before starting
radiation therapy and if any invasive procedures are done to your teeth,
that antibiotics be given. Problem teeth need to be corrected before
starting radiation therapy. It is also important to have a fluoride tray
made for daily treatment so your teeth don't end up crumbling, in years
following treatment.

It is very positive to know that some of your salivary glands will not be
affected.
Araik was here, had nasopharyngeal cancer. His recent update was very
encouraging.
Many "head and neck'ers" also join the Head and Neck list at ACOR.
Please join them here later today, www.acor.org/mailing.html
and clicking on Alphabetical, then follow the instructions.
Their server is currently down, but try again later, or early tomorrow.
Get their advice and experiences.
Stay positive.  Most head and neck cancers are very curable.
I can't promise no side effects, but they'll help you through it.
Please keep in touch, with us, as you are able.
Reminder: the current priority is dental inspection and care, if
necessary, first.

There could be replies here to you as well.

Other questions?  The oncologist who helps on this newsgroup, currently
specializes in head and neck cancers, so ask your questions. Hopefuly he's
"lurking" - watching for questions only he might answer.

Take care and stay positive.  You will get through the treatment.  Then
healing takes time, but you will do it.
J
Marc Bissonnette - 27 Apr 2008 15:42 GMT
samgr8times@gmail.com fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
result: news:c7e4c50e-cec4-491b-a0c4-
53e10805826a@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

> Hi,
> I am Sam living in Mumbai, India; Male; aged 44 years....diagnosed in
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> waiting for radiation updates...

Hey Sam;

Sounds like you've got a pretty upbeat mental status about all this,
which is definitely a good thing :) I've got the pleasure of a malignant
paraganglioma in the jugular bulb - above and behind the right ear.
Discovered when they went in with an ice cream scoop and emptied most of
that out, including the ear canal in December.

Friday was my twentieth radiation treatment to the head via tomography
machine. (Big, radioactive donut). So far, so good; A little tired all
the time, but I'm still driving myself the 180 km each way. Lost my taste
buds last weekend (after the 15th treatment) - Makes eating a chore (Lots
of wet cardboard is what most food tastes like), but so far, I can still
taste sweet and bitter, so I'm still a coffee junkie. My tongue hurts,
but not to the point that it's unbearable.

I know it's not quite the same cancer as yours, as mine's a little
farther back in the head, closer to the brain than the naso-pharynx
region, but it's what I've gone through so far. I'd agree with keeping
the PEG as your call, personally, but that's a choice only you should
make. (I've been given the same option - Chose not to do it)

Keep strong and make sure to post any questions you have in here - This
newsgroup has been a wonderful source of support, information and
guidance for me.

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csm7532@hotmail.com - 28 Apr 2008 15:57 GMT
On Apr 27, 8:42 am, Marc Bissonnette <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com>
wrote:
> samgr8ti...@gmail.com fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
> result: news:c7e4c50e-cec4-491b-a0c4-
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> > waiting for radiation updates...

Welcome to the group, Sam.  You should find plenty of support here---
this thread is only the beginning.  Check through some of the older
posts, and you should find plenty of useful information from those who
have had head-and-neck cancers, describing the treatments, side-
effects, etc.  My case was considerably south of the neck, so I can
only commiserate and support you as a fellow traveler in the cancer
club, not your particular chapter (though I am about the same age---
far too young for cancer, right?).

<snip>
> Friday was my twentieth radiation treatment to the head via tomography
> machine.

That means you've endured twice as many treatments as you have left.
Yay!  I would have just replied to Sam's post, but couldn't resist a
response to that bit of good news.

<more snip>

Good luck, Sam, and please keep us informed of your progress.

---
CSM
Uncle Sally - 28 Apr 2008 14:57 GMT
Hi Sam, welcome to this group, and, if you are a Hindi speaker :
"Namaste-ji."

As Marc commented in his response to you, I congratulate you on what sounds
like a healthy attitude toward your condition and treatment. And I'm very
happy to hear you will be able to save your salivary glands on one side.

I am about one year out from what appears to be successful treatment by
chemo, radiation, imrt, etc. of a T2~T3, N1 or so squamous cell carcinoma of
the lower tongue.

I was not advised about the possibility of a PEG tube, and I did lose over
35 pounds, as I found it about impossible to eat. I got to the place where I
was getting dizzy every time I stood up, and actually passed out cold three
times, which was frightening. My body doesn't like opiates at all, so I
resisted any pain medication, but finally, during the most intense part of
the treatment, went on fentanyl patches for a month or so. They were quite
effective those patches, but I still had some "itching" reaction and a
feeling, at times, that I was "hyper."

Looking back now :  if I had to go through treatment again, I would not opt
for the PEG tube, unless my oncologist told me I would probably die without
it, but would use what I live on now which is a diet of soy-milk (UHT
treated) and Nestle's Nutren Optimum powder (to which I add coffee and
cardamom and star anise in the mornings).

Knowing what I do now, I would not let myself get so debilitated as I did, I
think. But at the time there were weeks when the very idea of food was
repulsive, and even water tasted like it was salty and oily. In other words
I was not given any really good nutritional advice (or did not hear it if I
was given it), and, hopefully, know better now.

I hope your side-effects may be less !  The location of my tumor meant that
IMRT was only used sparingly at the end of the radiation, and since IMRT has
a "narrower area of impact" (so I am told), perhaps you can be optimistic
about side-effects.

J., one of our resident and omni-present angels of information and mercy,
has already given you excellent advice about your teeth. You can search this
group on Google for a recipe for a simple mouthwash made with just distilled
water, baking soda, and salt, that is very helpful if you reach the point
where you have mucositis and painful inflammation.

best wishes, Uncle Sally
Janet Wilder - 29 Apr 2008 02:52 GMT
...is it possible
> to have nil side-effects during radiation as i would like to play for
> it....making all this a good learning and application experience.

I would love to tell you that you have a chance of escaping side
effects, but with 38 IMRT's, you should be prepared for a lot of nasties.

Do see a dentist before the radiation treatments start. If you have any
teeth that are weak or mildly infected, they might have to come out as
dental problems in the midst of IMRT are something you don't want to
have to deal with.

I would not discount the PEG tube, but I'd wait a bit. I almost made it
through 30 treatments without one, but other complications arose and I
really needed one, but the complications made it impossible. You might
want to subscribe to the ACOR listserve

 http://www.acor.org/mlists/mlists.html

There are some very helpful folks there who know a lot about treating
side effects.

The side effects of H&N radiation are terrible. You have carefully
follow the doctor's directions and do the exercises and rinses
religiously. If they haven't sent you to a speech pathologist, do ask
for one. They need to get a pattern of your speech and swallowing before
the radiation and to check it several times during and after treatment
is over to make sure you don't have any residual swallowing problems.
There are complications with muscles that can arise years after the
radiation is over.

For many people the worst part of the radiation side effects happen in
the weeks after the last treatment.

The best thing I can tell you is that it will eventually get better.

Feel free to email me at this address whenever you wish. I'll try to be
supportive. Good luck.

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Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

samgr8times@gmail.com - 29 Apr 2008 11:19 GMT
On Apr 27, 4:08 pm, samgr8ti...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi dear friends,
Thanks for the info...that was real fast!
You all are right....the info available here is good and the support
is fantastic....glad i joined the group!
I have already gone through dental treatment and will heed to all
other advices......

Fitting PEG being not a major surgery, makes sense to go through
it..intend to use it as a back-up- if required, i dont have to go
through munching 'cardboard' food! I have been told that maintaining
good nutrition is a must and was cautioned about 'feeling faint and
dizzy' if the diet dropped. Since my CT started, have been gulping
down not less than 4 litres of water a day, keeping the insides well
irrigated (its summer time also here)! So, for the irrigation
department to work well, if need be, PEG should come in handy I
guess....
IMRT to commence from 6th of May and shall be taking weekly one dose
of chemo(CT) also......
oh, by the way, visited my cardio yesterday who has reduced my daily
heart medication...my EF has increased to 46 also and has told me not
to worry what so ever as everything looks ok as of now.....one less
headache!
Mean time, feeling good...relaxing.....etc......
bi for now
sam
 
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