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goozlefotz - 27 Apr 2008 02:56 GMT
I just joined the group today.  I do not have cancer but my wife has
been diagnosed with stage 4 - terminal - colo/rectal cancer which has
spread to her lungs.  She had surgery on Aug 13 and they thought they
got it all.  Then, she got staph infection which almost killed her and
stopped the post surgery chemo/radiation.  Now, they say it is too
late but want to give her chemo anyway.  She has declined to do that.
She still feels pretty good most of the time.  I just want to be a
member of a support group.  I am her primary caregiver.  She has
joined hospice and they seen pretty supportive.  Any comments?
No Spam - 27 Apr 2008 03:45 GMT
> I just joined the group today.  I do not have cancer but my wife has
> been diagnosed with stage 4 - terminal - colo/rectal cancer which has
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> a support group.  I am her primary caregiver.  She has joined hospice
> and they seen pretty supportive.  Any comments?

I've had stage 4 colorectal cancer now for over two years. I was only
given a 8% chance. Starting when I was 45, I've found it in my liver,
lungs and of course my colon. I've temporally lost the use of my rectum
until I am clear for 5 years when it will be hopefully re-attached. (yes,
I'm half-assed! It has it benefits) I've never had a staff infection but
I've waltzed through several mop-up surgeries where they've deemed me
clear of cancer each time. I'm one hole short of a gulf course from all
the surgeries I've had and suspect that I will probably have more holes
soon depending on the outcome of yet another PET/CT.

I'm not sure what they or you mean by too late or terminal but from my
position I can say that it's not too late. I've seen people with no
chance of survival make comebacks. Just as there is no rime or reason to
getting cancer, there is none as well to it's submission and remission.

Please reconsider treatment. At least postpone the prognoses until you
get a second unbiased opinion from other doctors.

I would think that any other surgeries your wife would consider would not
have an infection as they tend to try and avoid them as much as possible.
Also, each person responds in different ways to the chemo. My chemo was
quite easy and painless. Hers may be as well. (BTW, talk to your onc
about the drug Avastin.) Radiation treatments only sucked sometimes but
not all the time.

Two other things to consider is to change your diet to colorful fruit and
avoid the American diet. (it's not unpatriotic!) being active also helps
with not only feeling better but it also helps your body fight off the
cancer. There are several post here on the forum describing this.

Though I don't know all the details of your position, I hate to see
someone toss in the towel.
august - 27 Apr 2008 05:16 GMT
>I just joined the group today.  I do not have cancer but my wife has
> been diagnosed with stage 4 - terminal - colo/rectal cancer which has
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> member of a support group.  I am her primary caregiver.  She has
> joined hospice and they seen pretty supportive.  Any comments?

Here is a link for the ACOR colorectal cancer list. They currently have 802
members either with CR cancer or are caregivers.  ACOR runs lists for about
150 types of cancer. These lists are moderated to stop spam and keep out nut
jobs. You can both make contact with people going throught the same things
as your wife and youself.  Their group Archives will often answer any cancer
related questions that you might have.    good luck to you both,  AW

http://listserv.acor.org/archives/colon.html
J - 29 Apr 2008 19:07 GMT
> >I just joined the group today.  I do not have cancer but my wife has
> > been diagnosed with stage 4 - terminal - colo/rectal cancer which has
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>
> http://listserv.acor.org/archives/colon.html

There's also 846 people on the ACOR caregiver's group
http://listserv.acor.org/archives/caregivers.html
J
csm7532@hotmail.com - 28 Apr 2008 15:42 GMT
> I just joined the group today.  I do not have cancer but my wife has
> been diagnosed with stage 4 - terminal - colo/rectal cancer which has
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> member of a support group.  I am her primary caregiver.  She has
> joined hospice and they seen pretty supportive.  Any comments?

Welcome to the group, although I'm sorry to hear the the reason.  I
had stage 3 colon cancer diagnosed in June '06.  Whatever your wife
chooses, I wish the best for her, and for you.  These decisions aren't
easy, and must be made on an individual basis, with as much
information as possible.  When the docs say it's too late, they may
mean the chemo won't *cure* the cancer.  At this stage, treatment may
help improve quality of life, without any promise of cure.  Even with
earlier stages, there isn't a guarantee of cure, just a statistical
improvement on survival rates.  Your wife may wish to read or post
here as well---we have a mix of patients, caregivers, and a small
sample of health professionals.

---
CSM
J - 29 Apr 2008 19:26 GMT
> I just joined the group today.  I do not have cancer but my wife has
> been diagnosed with stage 4 - terminal - colo/rectal cancer which has
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> member of a support group.  I am her primary caregiver.  She has
> joined hospice and they seen pretty supportive.  Any comments?

Hello Dave,
I'm sorry to hear about your wife.

We used to have a palliative care RN, from Australia, here, but hospice is
doing such a fine job with patients and their families, we rarely have to
deal with "sticky" questions or questions about medicines.

I just posted a link for caregivers (group) at ACOR.

It's hard to know the best place for you, but I'll make it official.
You're a member of a support group here.
There's a few (or more) who are in similar situations as you (and haven't
answered the recent roll calls).
Keep watching for them. There's nothing to stop you from being at ACOR and
here. (except the amount of time you'd rather spend with your wife and
family).  I'll be here, listening and caring.

It's hard to comment about stopping aggressive treatments. If she knows
that she's not curable, and chemo and RT is mostly palliative intent; it's
her decision.  Some people see others; sitting there, nurse having trouble
finding a vein, the tests, the infusions and suddenly think, "it's not
worth the extra (perhaps 3-5 months). I'd rather have quality time
instead."

If you decide to just stay with ACOR, could you please let me know?
I'll quit worrying and looking for your posts, if so.
Thank you.
J
goozlefotz - 29 Apr 2008 23:28 GMT
> > I just joined the group today.  I do not have cancer but my wife has
> > been diagnosed with stage 4 - terminal - colo/rectal cancer which has
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> Thank you.
> J

Thank you for your support and your kind comments.  My initial post
was really just a thumbnail of the present situation.  In fact, my
wife has such a good attitude about this that I suspect that the
oncologist set her up with hospice thinking that she was in denial and
that would help her face reality.  We went camping for 4 days last
week and had a dinner for some of the relatives a couple of days ago.
The hospice people are very nice and helpful as well.  We do not plan
to alter our lives unless and until the situation requires that we do
so.  After all, every one dies.  What we now have that is different is
a possible cause and a guess at the time.  Our son-in-law (age 45)
died of cancer about a year ago and he suffered needlessly from
agressive but useless chemo treatments.  I am sure that she was
influenced by his situation.  My brother was recently diagnosed with
terminal prostate cancer. I wish he had as good an attitude as my
wife.  I hope that she will start posting here herself.  That would be
the best thing, I think.  Anyway, thanks again.
Dave
J - 01 May 2008 02:39 GMT
> > > I just joined the group today.  I do not have cancer but my wife has
> > > been diagnosed with stage 4 - terminal - colo/rectal cancer which has
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> the best thing, I think.  Anyway, thanks again.
> Dave

Hello Dave,
I'm glad you elaborated. The way I pictured your wife was on death's door and
that is clearly not the case.
I'm pleased to read that life goes on; with some of your usual activities.
What rotten luck to have 3 people in your family with cancer.
My condoleances on the death of your son-in-law.
I'd be interested in getting to know your wife, so if you feel this is the best
place, sure have her post here, if she's also agreeable. You may wish to have
her "lurk" here for a bit first. Get to know the regulars, the loonies, the
quacks and recognize the tricks of spammers.  Or just post and share her
thoughts - your (pleural) decision.

There is a prostate cancer newsgroup; but if you wish to talk about your brother
here as well, that's fine by me.
We've had some (or their loved ones) here; very nice people to be honest.

Until next talk, take care of you as well.
J
 
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