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Support for Mom with cancer
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Irishgirl - 31 Jan 2008 03:45 GMT How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be with her or let her just rest? They have given her a 33% survival rate. What dose that mean? How do I watch her get sicker and sicker from chemo and not be able to help her. I am not handling this well, I am scared, angry full of age and most of all terrible sad. This is the worst thing I have ever experince. I pray for strength and guidence, I know she needs me to be strong. I just want to scream......Any advise please
J - 31 Jan 2008 09:30 GMT > How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be > with her or let her just rest? They have given her a 33% survival [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > guidence, I know she needs me to be strong. I just want to > scream......Any advise please Welcome IrishGirl I can see you're upset. It's hard to answer your questions not knowing more. How long's she been your mother, please? And which type and stage of cancer does she have? Did she have surgery first? And is she in hospital or at home with you? Hope to hear back from you. Please know there are others here, caring too. J
Irishgirl - 01 Feb 2008 01:51 GMT > > How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be > > with her or let her just rest? They have given her a 33% survival [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Please know there are others here, caring too. > J Mom is 68 years old, she was first diagnosed with breast cancer last summer and had surgery to remove the growth. All reports was positive until November she started having a hard time breathing and they sent her to a lung specialist which discovered the cancer had spread to her lungs and throat. She is at home only 2 miles from me. Thank you for responding, I am just having a hard time accepting this
Irishgirl
J - 01 Feb 2008 13:07 GMT > > > How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be > > > with her or let her just rest? They have given her a 33% survival [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Irishgirl Hello, I feel badly for you and your mother. This was years ago, but my mother died 2 weeks after her lung cancer diagnosis. She was in hospital for ~6 weeks and it took some time to find the cause of her ongoing pneumonia. Same age as your mother. They (relatives) withheld the info from me, probably because I had a trip (holiday) planned to go visit them, a month or so later, on the other coast and I suppose were hoping she'd live long enough for me to see her. It didn't happen, so it's a blessing that you live nearby.
Sounds to me that your mother's cancer had already spread when she was diagnosed. (but perhaps the other tumors could not be seen, at that time, on scans).
You do need to be strong and keep toxic people (and behaviors and habits) far away from you and your mother. (I saw your post elsewhere). Are there others nearby, you can rely on to lean on, support you ?
J - will watch for your followup
Irishgirl - 01 Feb 2008 14:06 GMT > > > > How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be > > > > with her or let her just rest? They have given her a 33% survival [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thank you so much, please keep us in your prayers. I am not ready to let her go. irishgirl
csm7532@hotmail.com - 01 Feb 2008 15:06 GMT > > > > > How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be > > > > > with her or let her just rest? They have given her a 33% survival [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > let her go. > irishgirl Know that you're in the thoughts and prayers of many here, whether they post directly about it or not.
--- CSM
Irishgirl - 01 Feb 2008 18:38 GMT On Feb 1, 10:06 am, csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be > > > > > > with her or let her just rest? They have given her a 33% survival [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thank you so much, I do beleive in the power of prayer. Irishgirl
Dangerous_Dan - 07 Feb 2008 05:53 GMT On Feb 1, 10:06 am, csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 7:06 am, Irishgirl <LSCARTE...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thank you so much, I do beleive in the power of prayer. Irishgirl
Irishgirl, I have 4th stage cancer and doctors tell me I will not be here 5 years from now. I didn't have the courage to ask exactly when my last days will be (1 year? maybe 2?) However, I go through the chemo for four days every 3 weeks, hoping the cancer will go into remission (surgery is our of the question, cancer has spread to far). I'm about to start my 8th chemo treatment. My doctor tells me most don't make 4 treatments. You have to stay strong and keep a positive attitude. Though before my cancer was discovered I wouldn't have believed that prayer helps, now I'm a firm believer. When my chemo side effects hit me hardest I pray, read the bible and read inspirational books. Right now I'm reading two inspirational books: 1)The Cure Within: A History of Mind-Body Medicine 2)The Devine Matrix
I've just started reading The Cure Within, however I can tell you the Devine Matrix is a very good book.
I've learned a lot since my chemo treatments started, and found that eating good foods is also very important to stay strong. Just ask if you need any advise.
I pray every day. Your mom will be in my prayers.
xela56 - 02 Feb 2008 07:52 GMT Mom is 68 years old, she was first diagnosed with breast cancer last summer and had surgery to remove the growth. All reports was positive until November she started having a hard time breathing and they sent her to a lung specialist which discovered the cancer had spread to her lungs and throat. She is at home only 2 miles from me. Thank you for responding, I am just having a hard time accepting this
Irishgirl
I can understand it being a shock to you. Cancer does that. I would try to see your mother as often as you can. Remember your mother is still your mother and needs your love and support. Cancer can be isolating and now is the time to be there for your mom. ( I am also a cancer survivor). Can you help with meals? Do you take her to chemo and stay with her. I can tell you as a patient the longest hours are the ones where you sit and wait. It is so wonderful to have you family there for support and help kill the time.
My mom had lung cancer that she died from. She was a bit older than your mom, 79 almost 80. My kids were school age and I worked, but I tried to spend as much time with her as I could. Does your mom have a social worker? They can help you adjust and find support so you can cope. I have 2 sisters, one sister spent some time with my Mom the other one couldn't cope. She is still having issues around guilt. My point is that you don't want to live with regret.
Remember this is about your mom , not you. Of course it is hard to cope with a cancer diagnosis of a loved one, but it is even harder for the patient to accept this.
You will be in my thoughts. And best luck with your Mom.
J - 02 Feb 2008 01:31 GMT > How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be > with her or let her just rest? They have given her a 33% survival > rate. What dose that mean? How do I watch her get sicker and sicker > from chemo and not be able to help her. I am not handling this well, Since you live nearby, I would suggest that you call and ask her if you can go see her. Ask her favorite flavor of ice cream and take a straw (in case she needs it less cold and more fluid). Take some oil or cream and give her a footrub while you talk. Ask her to make an appointment with the oncologist so you two can go together. If you think it's better, call the oncologist and go on your own. Take a pad of paper, so you can ask some questions and write the answers down.
My questions would be: 1) how many treatments are you giving her? What's the name of her chemo? 2) What are the usual side effects ? 3) Where else may the cancer spread? 4) What is her prognosis (your best estimate) ? 5) Do we need a letter from you to involve hospice help at home for my mother? 6) Is there a group which meets at this center/hospital that I can go to, in order to ask their experiences with hospices in our area? If so, where and what time? If not, who else should I ask?
Once you have the answers, you can get started on searching for home hospice help for your mother. They're also very helpful tor family members
We can fill in some blanks. Like easy to make, easy to swallow foods, foot care, preventative things to do (or not) if neuropathy can be an issue. Other topics, as required.
It takes a team to help your mother. We can help you with that. J
bj - 02 Feb 2008 02:11 GMT ....
> Ask her to make an appointment with the oncologist so you two can go > together. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > My questions would be: > .... Some of these questions may require you to have written permission from the patient for the doctor to answer them. bj
Irishgirl - 02 Feb 2008 07:33 GMT > > How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be > > with her or let her just rest? They have given her a 33% survival [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > It takes a team to help your mother. We can help you with that. > J J Thank you so much for the advise, I had not even thought about hospice, I have been so upset I could not think straight. I am afraid I could not handle the words from the oncologist, but I will ask to go with her next time. I have to be strong, for her...I am going to see her tomarrow, she loves ice cream and she has not been eating much solids as the cancer is in her throat also. Thank you for helping get my mind together. I need help to help her.
Thanks again if you think of anything else, keep me informed. I know this is so hard for her, and I am struggleing also. Irishgirl
Peter Clarke - 02 Feb 2008 14:57 GMT On Feb 1, 8:31 pm, J <nswex@nalid;non> wrote:
> Irishgirl wrote: > > How do you know the right thing to say? How do you know when to be [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > It takes a team to help your mother. We can help you with that. > J J Thank you so much for the advise, I had not even thought about hospice, I have been so upset I could not think straight. I am afraid I could not handle the words from the oncologist, but I will ask to go with her next time. I have to be strong, for her...I am going to see her tomarrow, she loves ice cream and she has not been eating much solids as the cancer is in her throat also. Thank you for helping get my mind together. I need help to help her.
Thanks again if you think of anything else, keep me informed. I know this is so hard for her, and I am struggleing also. Irishgirl
Hi Irishgirl, Cancer is a frienghtining illness,not only for the one that has it, but also for the ones that have to watch their loved ones suffer. I have terminal lung cancer and have lived with my cancer for over eight years now although my time remaining is now drawing to a close.
As someone who has cancer , Some days I need lots of cuddles and hugs from my family some days I wish to be left alone to rest my body and my mind but some days I need that kick up the rear end to stop me feeling sorry for myself and making life hard for those that are caring for me . My advice is , talk openly to your Mum about her illness , It helps us to talk things through rather than bottle it all up inside. Support your Mum on her visits to the hospital and when she is with the cancer specialist . I know how hard it is to face some of the things that we have to listen to from the oncologist, but it has to be faced head on . It is better to face the known facts than worry over what we are just guessing about. Ask about possible treatments available , I have gone through three lots of chemo therapy now and I am hoping that I will be offered a little more in the next week or two , It can have bad side effects but it can also do a lot of good as well . and remember! where there is life there is hope , and remember the power of prayer.
I am a 62yrs Old guy from N Wales fighting for every new day , help your Mum do the same . Love and God Bless , Peter.
J - 07 Feb 2008 08:14 GMT > On Feb 1, 8:31 pm, > Thank you so much for the advise, I had not even thought about [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > this is so hard for her, and I am struggleing also. > Irishgirl Hello Irishgirl, How did things go for both of you this weekend ? J
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