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Alex - 16 Dec 2007 15:07 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups/create?lnk=gcf

My suggestion is that we set up a "moderated group". Have a moderated
account that will be shared amoungst all the regular posters, so in
theory we can have free flowing discussions and not one person to make
the decision what is a good post or not.

Keep the rules simple,

NO Selling.

No crazy off topic posts.

Allow free speech but no name calling.

What are the regulars thoughts.

It would require one person to know the other people's valid email
address so they can send a verification.
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 16 Dec 2007 15:15 GMT
> http://groups.google.com/groups/create?lnk=gcf
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> It would require one person to know the other people's valid email
> address so they can send a verification.

Moderated groups are VERY hard to run.  I'm a part of
alt.support.anxiety-panic.moderated, and I know the moderators have to work
around the clock to read posts, check out posters, etc.

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Alex - 16 Dec 2007 15:55 GMT
On Dec 16, 10:15 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com>
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Thanks for the information,,,,,,,that is a great point, Do they have
more than one moderator?
Alex
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 16 Dec 2007 16:19 GMT
On Dec 16, 10:15 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com>
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Thanks for the information,,,,,,,that is a great point, Do they have
more than one moderator?
Alex

Yes.  And they have a lot of problems.  Messages are always missing, among
other pain in the fanny stuff!

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Gigglz - 17 Dec 2007 03:06 GMT
>On Dec 16, 10:15 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com>
>wrote:
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>more than one moderator?
>Alex

>Yes.  And they have a lot of problems.  Messages are always missing, among
>other pain in the fanny stuff!

Hi ya!

Didn't know you were in here!  <waving>  Last time I was here, it was
defending you against a jerk named boB.

Hell, that is the LEAST of the moderated group's problems!

You forgot to mention that some moderators have control issues, too.
And then there is also 'certain people' that control the moderators as
well...and always get what they want!  Or should I say a certain,
lying, manipulating, female person?

It is rather like corrupt government.  Like the time one of the
moderators dissed one of the group members...and accidentally posted
it in the newsgroup instead of between the moderators.  That was
classy.

I used to be part of that group too, until they pulled a horrendous
stunt that I still can't believe!  I had to hire an attorney.
Now...you couldn't PAY ME to post in a moderated group.

My suggestion is to use your killfile, and DON'T lose your freedom to
a bunch of newsgroup nazis :-)

Good Luck!

Gigglz
sharx35 - 17 Dec 2007 05:45 GMT
>>On Dec 16, 10:15 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com>
>>wrote:
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> Gigglz

I agree. In my experience, most moderators, however well-motivated
originally,  become total control freaks.
Alex - 17 Dec 2007 14:46 GMT
> >>On Dec 16, 10:15 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com>
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I guess I did not understand the problems of moderation, I had thought
every regular poster would have rights to delete the posts that are
not cancer related. I don't want any one person to have super rights
over another.

I agree with all.....cancer takes enough control over one's life,
sorry I brought this up.

The message is clear all can post......and no rules apply, Alex
Uncle Sally - 17 Dec 2007 14:57 GMT
Alex wrote : "I guess I did not understand the problems of moderation"

Hi Alex,

Please forgive me :), but that is such a great quote taken "out of context"
!

That could be a sub-title for my auto-biography ... or my epitaph ... For
the title, I've settled on a portmanteau :  a blend of the "Iliad" and the
"Odyssey" :  "The Idiocy" :)

Merry, Merry, best,

Uncle Sally (old hippie 'come to earth' unwillingly for unknown reasons in
his late twenties)

"Education consists mainly in what we have unlearned." Mark Twain
Gigglz - 17 Dec 2007 15:10 GMT
>> >>On Dec 16, 10:15 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com>
>> >>wrote:
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>I guess I did not understand the problems of moderation, I had thought
>every regular poster would have rights to delete the posts that are
>not cancer related. I don't want any one person to have super rights
>over another.

It's too bad it can't be that way.  You would end up more upset if you
moderated the group than anything else.
The internet can be full of rude jerks :-(
The anxiety group moderators have a "God-complex".
I had an attorney go thru everything I was accused of, and he couldn't
believe it.  He found them to be really "sick".

>I agree with all.....cancer takes enough control over one's life,
>sorry I brought this up.

Oh sweetie, don't ever be "sorry" for wanting your group to be safe
and helpful to your people.  Times in my past, I tried to help others
get a moderated group myself.  Now I run far, far away!

>The message is clear all can post......and no rules apply, Alex

Cancer is terrible :-(  I lost my dad to it in 1990 and it was an
awful death.  I'll never forget it.  Over the past two years, my
mother, mother-in-law, and two close friends all went through breast
cancer.  My heart goes deeply out to everyone in this group.

Love and prayers,
Gigglz
Gigglz - 17 Dec 2007 15:05 GMT
>>>On Dec 16, 10:15 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com>
>>>wrote:
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>> Gigglz

>I agree. In my experience, most moderators, however well-motivated
>originally,  become total control freaks.

You are so right.  I wouldn't have believed it, until it happened to
me.  I had heard things from other people, but then I found out on my
own.  People who I thought were dear friends, slapped me in the face.
One woman spends more time following posters around to see what they
are doing in other newsgroups than she does caring for her own family!

She obsessively reads the newsgroup she left, and sends emails to
others about it.  She saves links from Google on bad things people
have done to her from LONG ago...and if a group member befriends
anyone that was involved waaaaay back then...she sends all the
information to the person as a 'warning', so they won't befriend them.

"control freak" doesn't even begin to cover it!

Gigglz
MZB - 19 Dec 2007 01:30 GMT
Yep--there are plenty of sickos around of the mental variety.

But why would you bother getting an attorney??

Nobody knows who you are on these groups (well...I hope...you didn't....)

Mel

>>>>On Dec 16, 10:15 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com>
>>>>wrote:
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> Gigglz
Gigglz - 19 Dec 2007 02:05 GMT
Yes, they did know me...or so I THOUGHT.  Had they TRULY known me,
they would have believed ME when I stood up for myself!  That's where
the attorney came in.  I had so-called close friends that were
MODERATORS.  I had to beg them to let a friend in who they held a
grudge against from many years ago!  Now they make her 'grovel' to
post in there.  They don't let her posts go thru automatically like
everyone else's; they read each one!  Come to think of it, the
'obsessed' woman will probably read this, and maybe let my friend's
posts go thru automatically now!  I notice she responds to my friend
in that group now when she posts in there, although she can't stand my
friend.  LOL, sick!  People from the group still email me...the ones
who knew better, the ones who are my REAL FRIENDS.  I love them.  I
think one is a moderator; but I'm sure if they find out she talks to
me, they'll banish her for it.  Many ex-group members have had
problems, too...and they have shared their problems with me...along
with the 'controlling' emails...and the emails where the "queen"
bashes me and tries to take them with.

What a shame!  I cannot believe someone I thought was SO GOOD, is
totally opposite.  It was very hurtful, to say the least.  It took me
a long time to heal, and it still hurts.

I should say, SHAME ON ME!  I should have know better, by the way she
talked about others.   <slapping self on head>

Live and learn...and stay away from moderated groups.

Thanks for your thoughts,
Gigglz

p.s.  watch out...you are being followed!   LOL

p.s.s.  if you'd like to talk more, please email me.  I don't want to
disrupt this group any further with moderator trash :-) :-)

>Yep--there are plenty of sickos around of the mental variety.
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>> Gigglz
Eric - 17 Dec 2007 20:14 GMT
>On Dec 16, 10:15 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com>
>wrote:
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>> > What are the regulars thoughts.

There already exists a far better set of groups for specific types of
cancer found on the e-mail listserv of http://ACOR.ORG.  If you wish
to communicate with patients, survivors and caregivers for a specific
cancer, that's the place to try.  

There are also lists on ACOR concerning end of life issues, advocacy,
family issues and a host of other topics.
 
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