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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / January 2004Cancer prevention question
For certain reasons, I am interested in long term measures for cancer prevention. My list, so far, is: 1. Stay slim 2. Do not suntan too much 3. Don't smoke (not an issue for us) 4. Don't eat too much fried stuff 5. Eat raw vegs and such 6. Don't eat too much cured meat Any other things that are relatively simple and that are doable? Thanks. Don't abuse alcohol....ALex > For certain reasons, I am interested in long term measures for cancer > prevention. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thanks. I was told that it is very beneficial to eat the white, slightly bitter connective strands between orange and grapefruit sections (most people remove it). It is supposed to contain some kind of anti-carcinogen. Does anyone know exactly what? Also, I have been reading that certain herbicides and insecticides are suspected of causing cancer. > I was told that it is very beneficial to eat the white, slightly bitter connective strands between orange and grapefruit sections (most people remove it). It is supposed to contain some kind of anti-carcinogen. > Does anyone know exactly what? > > Also, I have been reading that certain herbicides and insecticides are suspected of causing cancer. What you are referring to is called fractionated citrus pectin. It interferes with the ability of cancer cells to attach to healthy cells, so is essential to prevent metastasis (spreading) of cancer. Thank you. > Thank you. Hi, Jenny's husband has cancer. She's also been in the supplement business. So if the product worked so well, why is her husband getting treatment for cancer? Think about it ... The only "semi-reference" I've found to that product is for inflammatory bowel disease or prostate inflammation. So before you buy a product or believe something someone tells you, ask for a credible source of proof. We don't want people posting here giving false hopes to others. (and making money off the product). I don't think (if it's something natural that comes from the ingredients of fruit), and nothing's been added to it, that it could cause physical harm. But from harm to claims of preventing spread of cancer is a "stretch" as they say. She makes the claim, it's up to her to provide proof according to this newsgroup's Charter. J > > I was told that it is very beneficial to eat the white, slightly bitter > connective strands between orange and grapefruit sections (most people [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > interferes with the ability of cancer cells to attach to healthy cells, so > is essential to prevent metastasis (spreading) of cancer. Jenny, That's a supplement (product). You make the claim, you have to prove it. See the Charter for details on what type of proof is required on this newsgroup. J > I was told that it is very beneficial to eat the white, > slightly bitter connective strands between orange > and grapefruit sections (most people remove it). > It is supposed to contain some kind of anti-carcinogen. > Does anyone know exactly what? The anatomy of fruit is here http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/syllabi/422/422lab3.htm Just eat the stuff, whatever it's called. (wash the fruit, then take the peel off, and eat the rest, except for the pits or seeds). J kamcbear@nospam.earthlink.net said... > I was told that it is very beneficial to eat the white, slightly bitter connective strands between orange and grapefruit sections (most people remove it). It is supposed to contain some kind of anti-carcinogen. > Does anyone know exactly what? Vitamin C? Here's a few other--although there are many more not included: exercise regularly, drink about an 8 oz. glass of red grape juice daily, if cholesterol is high, take a statin drug; if hypothyroid, take thyroid med to regulate, > For certain reasons, I am interested in long term measures for cancer > prevention. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Any other things that are relatively simple and that are doable? See the FAQ http://www.cancersupporters.com/asc/part1.html and "Prevention" here http://www.cancersupporters.com/asc/links.html and you can look up Cause/Risk for each cancer at http://www.oncologychannel.com/ J > For certain reasons, I am interested in long term measures for cancer > prevention. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Any other things that are relatively simple and that are doable? The reality is that the associations are very weak. Except for the association between smoking and lungcancer, which is high. There has been a lot of interest in chemoprevention, i.e. whether compounds such as selenium vitamin e, and other antioxidants would help prevent cancer, see http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/4_2.htm There is actually a large trial ongoing to see whether selenium and vitamin e helps protect agains prostate cancer see http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/4_20.htm But there is a great deal of skepticism about it; it is said that selenium only helps those people who have low selenium in their serum and smokers, and that to high vitamin e may actually stimulate cancer rather than prevent it, see http://tinyurl.com/2lq52 We have actually seen quite a few people come by here who said that they did all the right things, which did not prevent them from getting cancer. So that is the bottomline: in the majority of cases there is ***no*** good explanation of why somebody gets it. Jan > > For certain reasons, I am interested in long term measures for cancer > > prevention. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jan I'm one who took mega doses of antioxidants most of my adult life believing what was in the news and magazines that it would help prevent cancer and still developed ovarian cancer. Had surgery and chemo and am fine now ,and now do my own little alternative thing. I've had bad allergies all my life and have finally worked out that it's a food allergy. Caused all sorts of bad things like migrane headaches, joint pain, gastric upsets , leg sores, dry skin, hemmroids,tiredness,the list goes on and on. It turns out to be an allergy to grapes. If an allergy can cause such irritation to a body couldn't it trigger cancer? Just my thoughts. > I'm one who took mega doses of antioxidants most of my adult life believing > what was in the news and magazines that it would help prevent cancer and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > cancer? > Just my thoughts. Very good question. The site I just quoted http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/4_2.htm does mention the use of NSAIDs (Non Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs; aspirin and the like), and there are some indications that lowering of prostaglandins (a group of compounds involved in inflammation) may slow the spread of cancer. On the other hand, immunotherapy (= deliberately triggering an immune response) is being used to treat certain kinds of cancer Good? Bad? I am interested to hear from someone who has more insight in this issue Jan > For certain reasons, I am interested in long term measures for cancer > prevention. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Any other things that are relatively simple and that are doable? Don't work with radio-active material. Don't inhale asbestos. Don't work with or live with people who smokes. > Thanks. > > For certain reasons, I am interested in long term measures for cancer > > prevention. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Don't work with radio-active material. Don't inhale asbestos. Don't work > with or live with people who smokes. The first two I agree with, but the third is very unproven. The WHO's recent long-term study, which they tried to suppress until forced by the London Daily Telegraph to release the results, had only one statistically significant finding--children raised in smoking homes were LESS likely to develop lung cancer than those raised by non-smokers. No one in their right mind would suggest that there was any sort of causation here, but it's pretty irritating to find that the summary of this report cites several *non-statistically significant*, minor correlations in increased disease from spouses/co-workers as an indication of increased risk from ETS. Similarly, the EPA's study of several years back (which was thrown out as evidence by at least one federal judge) was actually a metastudy in which the studies included were "cherry-picked" to show the desired result. Clearly, there are risks involved in being a smoker, but the anti-smokers have made this strong case weaker by trying to show harm from smoking that science just can't support. Bill ChewedOff@someplace.com said... > For certain reasons, I am interested in long term measures for cancer > prevention. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Any other things that are relatively simple and that are doable? Won't necessarily work though. Let's see, my mother is slim; doesn't sunbathe; doesn't smoke; doesn't fry stuff; *does* cook veggies; does eat bacon. A few years ago she had some precancerous cells removed from a breast; just recently she had a tumour removed from her mouth. My brother in law is slim; doesn't sunbathe; doesn't smoke; doesn't eat (AFAIK) fried stuff; enjoys salad; doesn't eat pork in any of its manifestations (so no ham, bacon etc)... and has a permanent colostomy following surgery for colo- rectal cancer. AIUI, no one really knows what causes cancer. That being so, prevention is also an unknown, since if we had a foolproof method of prevention, we'd probably also have a cure. I did all these things most of my life + run about 40 mi/week + no alcohol, yet I still ended up w Stage IV at 56 yrs of age. There are no guarantees. And there's no history of CRC in my family. >For certain reasons, I am interested in long term measures for cancer >prevention. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Thanks. _________________________________ "Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and oxaliplatin for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:33 (adapted) > "P" <no@nospam.inv> wrote in message news:400e9efb_6@newsfeed.slurp.net... >> If an allergy can cause such irritation to a body couldn't it trigger >> cancer? Based on the vitaletheine modulator research, I would say that allergy symptoms are indicative of problems with the immune system which can lead to a variety of diseases, including cancer, if unaddressed. Supporting your immune system is always advisable: http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org/immunecf.htm  Signature_o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist, _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large... p.s. Learn and live, http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org |
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