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John Marks - 17 Jan 2004 03:17 GMT
Hello

I wanted to thank all of you who responded to my post about my mom's
illness. After I dried off my eyes I was able to type this and say thanks
for your thoughts and ideas. I feel I finally found a place where others
understand what it like to live with this kind of reality.

Sorry for posting this way. I should have posted to my original thread
but My reader is messed up for some reason and won't post that way.

Also, for those who have been through cancer and it's effects on the sick
and those who they leave behind, please voice your opinions about
assissted suicide for the terminally ill. Why is our society so against
this? What are we afraid of?

I understand that doctors take an oath to heal, not to kill. But where do
we draw the line in our thinking? In their time of dying we give more
dignity and relieve from pain to our animals than we do for our loved
ones.

Recently, I had to call my Mom's doctor and "beg" him to reduce her pain.
I remember thinking that he is in it for the money. As long as her heart
beats, the jerk gets paid. This might sound gruff, but you would have to
meet him.

Yes, I am in the angry stage now...... Helpless. What else do you do feel
when your Mom asks to die?

To answer the question, yes my mom is now in a nursing (not hospice) home
3000 miles from me. I go there once a month or so and see less of her
everytime. The last time was the worst. After that she seemed to get
somewhat better. She called me out of the blue (nurse Dailed) one late
night crying. She was both sweet and pissed at the same time. Thats a
switch for her, because before all this she was the sweetest. Again she
asked "how much longer"?

That was the last time she could call...

OK. I vented now. I quess I'll take a Xannax and sleep. Tommorow is
another day of missery for us all.

John


Alayne - 17 Jan 2004 09:47 GMT
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Sorry to hear that you are feeling so bad right now.  I do empathise with
what you are going through.  I recently lost my husband to a GBM and there
is nothing like that oh so helpless feeling when we watch those that we love
suffer.

Personally, we made a "pact", that if things got so bad for Tony, I would
indeed help him out.  It was very easy to make the pact but I really don't
know whether I would have found the strength should the time have come.

I wonder whether it would be better for your mum to be in a hospice rather
than a hospital.  Hospice workers are so there and relieve as much as they
can any pain or suffering that a patient goes through.  I can't be sure but
I think that they also have a "humane" approach.  My husband started
suffering with a psychosis towards the end and they basically mildly sedated
him, which is close to the line, and something that I did indeed agree to
(the alternative was a psyche ward).

I feel for you John and your mother and all the pain that you are going
through right now.

Hugs

Alayne
Kim C - 25 Jan 2004 01:34 GMT
John,

So sorry that you are dealing with this.  I've been through it with my dad -
it's so very hard to do.

I have to agree that if you can get your mom into a hospice program - I
would recommend it.  It was the best thing we did for my dad.  The minute he
agreed that the chemo and radiation were just not helping, but only making
him feel worse, we had hospice come in.  They were so very supportive if his
wishes to just be comfortable until the end.  They were also extremely
supportive of the rest of us.  I'll never forget the night he passed.  He
slipped away at just a couple of minutes before midnight.  We called hospice
to let them know and one of the nurses that had been helping all along came
to the house.  She sat with us until almost 3:00 in the morning, helping us
with our initial greiving.  She was a godsend.

I could never say enough good things about hospice.  If your mom is ready
and just needs to ease her pain and discomfort, that might be the way to go.

God bless,

Kim C

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