In a recent post, J indicated that this place is not for those two diseases.
I have a question: why not??
I realize there is a specific group for breast cancer and that should be
pointed out (and I assume there is one for leukemia?).
But why would such a person be unwelcome here? I just don't get it. This is
an unmoderated group. It would seem there might be issues aside from the
specificity of the type of cancer that would be appropriate here. What am I
missing? Did the group take a vote and decide all those folks were
unwelcome? If so, did it take a majority vote or unanimous vote?? (I am only
being a tad facetious)
(Oh, and ditto for prostate cancer).
Mel
Danny - 26 Sep 2007 15:33 GMT
> In a recent post, J indicated that this place is not for those two diseases.
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Mel
I get the point. My question too. Everyone weith cancer, or possible
diagnosis of cancer, should be welcome here. At least I see it that
way.
Cheerful Pickle - 26 Sep 2007 16:15 GMT
> I realize there is a specific group for breast cancer and that should be
> pointed out (and I assume there is one for leukemia?).
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> (Oh, and ditto for prostate cancer).
Hi, MZB,
You tweaked my curiosity. Each newsserver carries a somewhat different
list of newsgroups. I just checked with mine (Giganews) and found
newsgroups for breast cancer and prostate cancer, but not for leukemia or
lung cancer. Us cancer victims need to stick together. This is as good a
place as any. I don't know why any cancer victim would be made to feel
unwelcome here (unless he was perhaps a head case, too, but that is not
right either).
I have lung cancer, you have interests in leukemia and breast cancer,
perhaps we can be of help to each other anyway.

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Andy -- The Cheerful Pickle as cheerful as ever
MZB - 26 Sep 2007 18:37 GMT
Hi Andy:
I just assumed there was one for leukemia because of a remark J made, but
perhaps I'm mistaken.
I THOUGHT she said this group is not for leukemia victims but I can't find
it now.
Mel
>> I realize there is a specific group for breast cancer and that should be
>> pointed out (and I assume there is one for leukemia?).
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> I have lung cancer, you have interests in leukemia and breast cancer,
> perhaps we can be of help to each other anyway.
MZB - 26 Sep 2007 18:50 GMT
Oh, here is the remark from one of J's posts:
Ask and we'll let
you know where you'll be best served.
Other examples of referrals: Different places for leukemias and
lymphomas. So they can compare notes on types of, symptoms and treatments
specific to their cancers. Or questions specific to those types of
cancers.
I might have read more into this than I should. Not sure if she is advising
folks not to post here or merely suggesting that there may be better
alternatives. I strongly disagree with the former if that is the case. I
agree with the latter as merely an additional place to seek information.
Andy, I first discovered this group when I ended up with superficial basal
cell carcinoma. ie: the best kind to get.
My family practice doctor was going to excise it and although I have a very
high level of confidence in him, I posted asking if I should be referred to
a surgeon. Steph said my local doctor if he is decent should easily be able
to do the surgery. That was probably over 5 years ago. I took the advice and
was cured by the 15-minute procedure. Still, it was a near-traumatic
experience as just the mention of cancer certainly does make one confront
his/her mortality. A few years later my Dad was dx. with Merkel Cell
carcinoma. He passed away about 15 months later. This group was wonderfully
supportive and as a result, I still lurk here. I've always appreciated the
support of J and others.
I don't know if I know qualify to even peruse this group -- except that of
course I do as this is an UNMODERATED group.
Mel
>> I realize there is a specific group for breast cancer and that should be
>> pointed out (and I assume there is one for leukemia?).
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> I have lung cancer, you have interests in leukemia and breast cancer,
> perhaps we can be of help to each other anyway.
Cheerful Pickle - 27 Sep 2007 07:50 GMT
> Andy, I first discovered this group when I ended up with superficial basal
> cell carcinoma. ie: the best kind to get.
Hi, MZB,
My first run in with cancer was also with basal cell carcinoma (of which I
had dozens). As slow growing as basal cell carcinoma is and as likely as
it is NOT to kill you I tend to call it ALMOST benign. My next run in
with cancer was with squamous cell cancer (skin cancer), which is probably
the second best kind to get. My last run in with cancer was with
squamous cell carcinoma (lung cancer), which is one of the worst kinds to
get.

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Andy -- The Cheerful Pickle
xela56 - 27 Sep 2007 02:49 GMT
> I have lung cancer, you have interests in leukemia and breast cancer,
> perhaps we can be of help to each other anyway.
Consider the source, a person who has never declared a cancer diagnosis. I
know all cancer patients can learn from each other. This is an unmoderated
group.....
TRC - 26 Sep 2007 18:56 GMT
> In a recent post, J indicated that this place is not for those two diseases.
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Mel
I don't believe J said that they were "not welcome here". She merely tells
them that there is another newsgroup specifically for them and that they may
find better information there - makes sense to me. If they choose to go
there, sobeit, if not, I am sure they are welcome here.
We all have a purpose here, especially J. She may not have good PR skills,
but she certainly has a wealth of knowledge and her heart is definately in
the right place. I think we need to be a family here and support each
other.
IMO,
Tracey
MZB - 27 Sep 2007 02:54 GMT
Tracy:
J said:
I would suggest that you post to
alt.support.cancer.breast
And provide the additional information.
I will watch for your posts over there.
If it is cancer, and breast cancer, you will be in the right place.
If it is cancer, but one that is supported here, then
The implication is that breast cancer is not supported here.
Mel
>> In a recent post, J indicated that this place is not for those two
> diseases.
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> IMO,
> Tracey
Eric - 27 Sep 2007 18:16 GMT
>I don't believe J said that they were "not welcome here". She merely tells
>them that there is another newsgroup specifically for them and that they may
>find better information there - makes sense to me. If they choose to go
>there, sobeit, if not, I am sure they are welcome here.
Reason why I recommend ACOR.ORG as a far better source of cancer
information and support than found on an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
Yes, the ACOR mailing lists are moderated, but that keeps noise (and
spammers) to a minimum while providing access to many others going
through the same things; both as patients and caregivers.
Follows is a list of the active mail lists on ACOR and the number of
subscribers as of February this year.
The Public Mailing Lists at ACOR
2YOUNG-4GYN-CANCER
2young-4gyn-cancer
(79 subscribers)
4YOUTH
Support for youth with cancer
(44 subscribers)
ACINIC-CELL
Acinic Cell Carcinoma (Cancer) Mailing List
(115 subscribers)
ACUP
AdenoCarcinoma of Unknown Primary
(152 subscribers)
ADEN-CYST
The Adenoid Cystic Carcinoma Support Group
(169 subscribers)
ALCL-KIDS
Children with ALCL (Anaplastic Large Cell Lymphoma)
(9 subscribers)
ALERT
Cancer Legislative Alert System
(13 subscribers)
ALL-KIDS
Childhood Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia (Cancer)
(492 subscribers)
ALL-KIDS-RELAPSED
Children with relapsed ALL
(107 subscribers)
ALL-L
Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia
(214 subscribers)
AML
Acute Myelogenous Leukemia
(474 subscribers)
AMYLOID
Amyloid Online Support
(598 subscribers)
ANGIOGEN
Current Research on Angiogenesis
(600 subscribers)
BC-SUPPORTERS
Support List for Partners of Breast Cancer Patients
(114 subscribers)
BLADDER-CANCER-CAFE
The Bladder Cancer Support and Information eCommunity
(635 subscribers)
BMS-354825-CML
BMS-354825 Trials for CML
(1 subscribers)
BMT-TALK
Bone Marrow Transplant Online Communication Forum
(1455 subscribers)
BRCA
Breast Cancer Electronic Support Group
(303 subscribers)
BREAST-ONC
Current Advances in Breast Cancer Treatments
(929 subscribers)
CA-PATIENTS
Cancer Patients Forum
(145 subscribers)
CAM-ONC
Integrating complementary & alternative cancer care with traditional
approaches
(197 subscribers)
CANCER
The General ACOR Cancer List
(206 subscribers)
CANCER-DE-MAMA
Lista Electronica para Cancer de Mama
(2 subscribers)
CANCER-DEPRESSION
Cancer-Depression
(114 subscribers)
CANCER-FATIGUE
Fatigue Associated with Cancer and Cancer Treatments
(161 subscribers)
CANCER-FERTILITY
Fertility Issues associated with Cancer
(115 subscribers)
CANCER-FINANCE
Finance Issues Related to Cancer
(172 subscribers)
CANCER-FR
La liste francophone de support et d'information sur le cancer
(2 subscribers)
CANCER-HOSPICE
Hospice issues related to Cancer patients
(103 subscribers)
CANCER-MED
Cancer Related Medical Discussion List
(101 subscribers)
CANCER-NEUROPATHY
Neuropathy Induced by Cancer & Treatments
(157 subscribers)
CANCER-PAIN
PAIN Associated with Cancer and cancer treatments
(201 subscribers)
CANCER-PARENTS
Parents with cancer and the issues of raising children
(56 subscribers)
CANCER-SEIN
(0 subscribers)
CANCER-SEXUALITY
Sexuality after a cancer diagnosis
(167 subscribers)
CARCINOID
The Carcinoid Cancer Online Support Group
(687 subscribers)
CAREGIVERS
Online Support Group
(840 subscribers)
CCC-NET
Cyclists Combating Cancer
(163 subscribers)
CHF
Congestive Heart Failure and Cancer Treatments
(60 subscribers)
CLAS
Cancer Legislative Alert System
(20 subscribers)
CLINICAL-TRIALS
Clinical Trials
(383 subscribers)
CLL
Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia
(2618 subscribers)
CLL-CN
Canadian CLL List
(157 subscribers)
CLL-UK
UK List
(100 subscribers)
CLUB-METS-BC
Metastatic Breast Cancer Online Support Group
(253 subscribers)
CML
Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia (Cancer)
(477 subscribers)
COAG-DISORDERS
Coagulation Disorders Mailing List
(13 subscribers)
COLON
Colorectal Cancer Discussion List
(793 subscribers)
CPCOS
Cancer Patients Christian Online Support Group
(100 subscribers)
CRC-METS
Group for Patients with Metastatic Colorectal Cancer
(0 subscribers)
CTCL-MF
CTCL/Mycosis Fungoides information and support
(1104 subscribers)
CTCL-MF-PARENTS
Parents of Children with Cutaneous T-Cell Lymphoma
(35 subscribers)
DESMOID
The Desmoid Tumor eCommunity
(401 subscribers)
DOLOR-FORO
(9 subscribers)
E-SARCOMA
The Ewing Sarcoma Online Support Group (cancer)
(284 subscribers)
E-SELF-HELP
Electronic Self Help Communities
(0 subscribers)
EC-GROUP
Esophageal Cancers Discussion List
(2030 subscribers)
EPID-BULL
Epidermis Bullosa Online Support Group
(4 subscribers)
FACING-AHEAD
F-Ahead Facing-Ahead: Helping to face the death of a loved one
(225 subscribers)
FAITH
A Discussion List about Faith and Coping with Cancer
(41 subscribers)
FAP-GS
Familial Adenomatous Polyposis & Gardner Syndrome Support Group
(96 subscribers)
GEN-ETHICS
The Human Genome Project: Ethical, Legal & Policy Issues
(131 subscribers)
GENOMICS
Discussion Group
(144 subscribers)
GTD
Gestational Trophoblastic Disease (Cancer) Support List
(13 subscribers)
GVHD
The Graft Versus Host Disease Online Support Group
(361 subscribers)
GYN-ONC
The Gynecological Cancers Online Support Group
(255 subscribers)
HAIRY-CELL
Hairy Cell Leukemia List
(87 subscribers)
HEAD-NECK-ONC
The HEAD & NECK Cancers Online Support Group
(460 subscribers)
HEALTH-BRIDGE
Partnerships for Quality Online Health Information Resources
(140 subscribers)
HEALTH-SEEKERS
Online Health Seekers: Facts and Theories
(0 subscribers)
HEM-ONC
Hematological Malignancies Support List
(293 subscribers)
HEM-ONC-FR
Hem-Onc-FR Liste Francophone pour tous les cancers du sang
(4 subscribers)
HEMANGIOMA
Hemangioma Information and Support Group
(43 subscribers)
HODGKINS
Hodgkin's Lymphoma Mailing List
(265 subscribers)
IBC
Inflammatory Breast Cancer Support Group
(200 subscribers)
IRESSA-NSCLC
Discussion of Iressa used for Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer
(27 subscribers)
JP-NET
Jewish Parents Network
(7 subscribers)
KAPOSI
The Kaposi Sarcoma Online Support Group
(125 subscribers)
KELLY-TEAM
Kelly's Team from the Kelly Davidson Foundation
(13 subscribers)
KIDNEY-ONC
The Kidney Cancer Online Support Group
(1730 subscribers)
L-M-SARCOMA
The leiomyosarcoma (cancer) Online Support Group
(775 subscribers)
L-SARCOMA
The liposarcoma (cancer) Online Support Group
(229 subscribers)
LARYNX-C
The Larynx Cancer Online Support Group
(159 subscribers)
LI-FRAUMENI
Li-Fraumeni Syndrome Support Group
(31 subscribers)
LIVER-ONC
The Liver Cancer Support Group
(233 subscribers)
LOWGRADE-BT
Low Grade Brain Tumors
(18 subscribers)
LT-SURVIVORS
Cancer Long Term Survivors Discussion Group
(468 subscribers)
LUNG-BAC
Bronchioloalveolar Carcinoma (Lung Cancer)
(221 subscribers)
LUNG-NSCLC
Non Small Cell Lung Cancer
(368 subscribers)
LUNG-ONC
The Lung Cancer Online Support Group
(273 subscribers)
LUNG-SCLC
Small Cell Lung Cancer
(136 subscribers)
LUPUS
Discussions of Lupus and Related Diseases
(273 subscribers)
LYMPHEDEMA
Online Support Group
(366 subscribers)
MALEBC
MaleBC - A Male Breast Cancer Discussion List
(21 subscribers)
MANTLECELL
Mantle Cell Lymphoma Discussion Group
(249 subscribers)
MEDWEBMASTERS-L
Medical Webmaster Discussion Group
(345 subscribers)
MELANOMA
Melanoma Support Group
(218 subscribers)
MEN1
(Multiple Endocrine Neoplasia Type 1) Wermer's Syndrome
(77 subscribers)
MESOTHELIOMA
(Cancer) Support & Information
(258 subscribers)
METASTATIC
Patients diagnosed with metastatic cancer
(159 subscribers)
MMATRIX-L
Internet Medical Resources Announcement List
(858 subscribers)
MPD-NET
Myeloproliferative Disorders Support List
(2734 subscribers)
MULTI-PRIMARIES
Multiple Primary Cancers
(48 subscribers)
MYELOMA
Multiple Myeloma Support List
(1645 subscribers)
N-BLAST-MED
N-Blast-Med
(32 subscribers)
N-BLASTOMA
The Neuroblastoma (Cancer) Online Support Group
(600 subscribers)
NHL
Non-Hodgkin's Lymphomas Support Group
(272 subscribers)
OLLIER-MAFFUCCI
Ollier's/Maffucci Disease Support Group
(13 subscribers)
ONCO-MEETINGS
Oncology Meetings Announce List
(23 subscribers)
ONCO-NURSE
Oncology Nurses Discussion List
(6 subscribers)
ONCONEWS
The Oncology Electronic Newsletter
(191 subscribers)
ORAL-ONC
The Oral Cancers Online Support Group
(162 subscribers)
OSTEO-P
The Osteoporosis Online Support Group
(93 subscribers)
OSTEO-SARCOMA
Osteosarcoma Support Group
(177 subscribers)
OVARIAN
Ovarian Problems Discussion List
(1387 subscribers)
PAIN-CAREGIVERS
Caregivers of patients suffering from cancer pain
(41 subscribers)
PANCREAS-ONC
The Pancreatic Cancer Support & Information eCommunity
(451 subscribers)
PED-AIDS
The Pediatric AIDS Online Support Group
(41 subscribers)
PED-ALL
Pediatric Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia (Cancer) List
(6 subscribers)
PED-HOSPICE
Hospice Care for Children
(68 subscribers)
PED-LYMPHOMA
Parents of Children with Lymphoma (cancer)
(48 subscribers)
PED-ONC
The Pediatric Cancers Online Support Group
(305 subscribers)
PED-ONC-SURVIVORS
Ped-ONC Survivors
(310 subscribers)
PED-ONC-SURVIVORS
Ped-ONC Survivors
(310 subscribers)
PETS-CANCER
Discussion of pets with cancer and other pets/cancer issues.
(25 subscribers)
PJS
) Online Support Group
(228 subscribers)
POEMS
Syndrome - Osteosclerotic myeloma
(48 subscribers)
POLYM-ADENO
Polymorphous Low Grade Adenocarcinoma Support
(6 subscribers)
PROSTATE
The Prostate Problems Mailing List
(1331 subscribers)
R-BLASTOMA
The Retinoblastoma (Cancer) Online Support Group
(225 subscribers)
RARE-CANCER
The Rare Cancers Discussion Group
(179 subscribers)
RB-SURVIVORS
Retinoblastoma Survivors Support Group
(107 subscribers)
RHABDO-KIDS
Rhabdomyosarcoma (Cancer) Information and Support Group
(270 subscribers)
SARCOMA
The General Sarcoma (Cancer) Online Support Group
(390 subscribers)
SARCOMA-MED
Questions about Sarcomas
(584 subscribers)
SCAN-BC-LIST
Scandinavian Language Breast Cancer List
(4 subscribers)
STI571-GIST
The Life Raft Group (LRG): STI571 (Gleevec - Glivec) and GIST (Gastro
Intestinal Stromal
(564 subscribers)
STOMACH-ONC
The Stomach Cancer Online Support Group
(291 subscribers)
TC-NET
The Testicular Cancer Online Support Group
(701 subscribers)
TC-SUPPORTERS
Testicular Supporters List
(221 subscribers)
THYMOMA
Malignant Thymoma Information Group
(28 subscribers)
THYROID-ONC
The Thyroid Cancer Online Support Group
(402 subscribers)
TRIALS-C225
Clinical Trials for the Investigational Drug C225
(1 subscribers)
TUBER-SCLER
Tuberous Sclerosis Electronic Support Group
(8 subscribers)
WILMS-KIDS
Children with Wilms' Tumor
(143 subscribers)
WSMG-NET
The Waldenstrom's Macroglobulinemia Cancer Online Discussion List
(259 subscribers)
XERODERMA-ES
(0 subscribers)
ZOLLINGER-ELLISON
Zollinger-Ellison Syndrome (ZES) Support Group
(23 subscribers)
Alex - 28 Sep 2007 13:41 GMT
> >I don't believe J said that they were "not welcome here". She merely tells
> >them that there is another newsgroup specifically for them and that they may
[quoted text clipped - 558 lines]
>
> read more ?
ACOR is a great place, I don't like getting lots of emails. But thanks
for posting to remind us all.
Mark Jones - 27 Sep 2007 01:41 GMT
> In a recent post, J indicated that this place is not for those two
> diseases.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> (Oh, and ditto for prostate cancer).
I have no idea either. This is a generic group and should be all
encompassing for those with any type of cancer. They can always
seek out a more specific group if they want to.
Figgertoes - 27 Sep 2007 05:43 GMT
> In a recent post, J indicated that this place is not for those two
> diseases.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Mel
Let's not make a big deal of this. People with leukemia, breast & prostate
cancers have specific issues that other specialized groups are much more
fmiliar with. I can't see anyone being driven out of here - all are
welcome - but people with certain cancers are better served in groups
dealing with their cancers. Msny of the treatments for these cancers are
different & specific. People here tend to cluster around lung, oral & bowel
cancers with occasional others. If you want to 'compare notes' with others,
best with birds of a feather.
Fig
A M L [Manchester England] - 27 Sep 2007 06:51 GMT
> In a recent post, J indicated that this
> place is not for those two diseases.
>
> I have a question: why not??
Because a particular person has AML and he is being harassed by Keith
Exford and Affinity Homes Group. Since no one especially not "J" aka
"Steph" has the courage to stand up to Keith Exford and his Affinity
Homes Group, the "we don't do AML excuse" was invented,
> [ . . . ] (and I assume there is one for leukemia?).
Don't think so.
> But why would such a person be unwelcome here?
Well you can't disobey Keith Philip Exford can you?
> This is an unmoderated group.
So it is moderated by abuse. Just as blocking someone's access to
medicine is unlawful, so abusive litigation is used to achieve and
conceal that.
> (Oh, and ditto for prostate cancer).
I don't have pc.

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http://broomleigh.com/
csm7532@hotmail.com - 29 Sep 2007 00:12 GMT
> In a recent post, J indicated that this place is not for those two diseases.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> But why would such a person be unwelcome here?
They are welcome here. If one or two people say someone *isn't*
welcome here because they have the wrong kind of cancer, too bad---
others here will welcome them regardless. They may be better served
in another ng, so it can help them to be directed there. If they
don't have access to the more specific group, or simply would rather
visit here, they're welcome here. In fact, such a patient is welcome
to crosspost to this group and the more specific group. That's what
crossposting was invented for. You said it, I said it, others have
said it---this is an unmoderated group, so nobody has the right to
restrict access.
---
CSM
MZB - 29 Sep 2007 18:38 GMT
I agree.
It is sad when I see that someone is made to feel unwelcome either directly
or perhaps in a more insidious manner by the tone of a post. Especially when
the post is written in the guise of a moderator, when no such moderator
exists.
I don't post much and I mostly lurk, but I would urge those of you that do
participate more than I do to quickly make such folks feel welcome here
while also pointing out that there are additional groups more specifically
devoted to the particular cancer (if it is is bc or pc).
Mel
>> In a recent post, J indicated that this place is not for those two
>> diseases.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> ---
> CSM