 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / June 2007Jaw Bone Metastasis???? 2
From Jaw Bone Metastasis???? I have started a new thread as the other was very long. --------------------- The tooth was extracted Monday, it has been sent to a histology lab for examination. Now waiting results. I thought things would improve when it was no more but now my mouth is on fire, very red. Started antibiotics Azitrox today as I also have a chest infection. isi > The tooth was extracted Monday, it has been sent to a histology lab > for examination. Now waiting results. I thought things would improve > when it was no more but now my mouth is on fire, very red. Started > antibiotics Azitrox today as I also have a chest infection. > > isi Sorry to hear it, isi, I would have thought extraction straightforward, no problem. Anitbiotics a good idea. I'm sorry you're in pain. J - watching for your updates. > Wednesday may 23rd. > > The tooth was extracted Monday, it has been sent to a histology lab > for examination. Now waiting results. I thought things would improve > when it was no more but now my mouth is on fire, very red. Started > antibiotics Azitrox today as I also have a chest infection. How's it going now, Isi? Any word? J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Wednesday may 23rd. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Any word? > J Hi J No no word yet, there has been a big 3 day public holiday here to celebrate the teachers and end of school year - it's interesting the kids go visit the teachers at home, sing to them, give them gifts, go on outings...kids say thank you for their education. Mouth still hurts and thats worrying, ulcers seem to be clearing up a bit. Chest slightly better but breathing still somewhat of problem. Thanks for asking ;-) isi Isi wrote : "... there has been a big 3 day public holiday here to celebrate the teachers and end of school year - it's interesting the kids go visit the teachers at home, sing to them, give them gifts, go on outings...kids say thank you for their education." Hi Isi, Good luck with the outcome on the tooth ! The holiday you mention sounds very much like the Thai school holidays known as "Wai Khru" ("wai" meaning to honor, pay respect; "Khru" meaning teacher or mentor). But in addition to the very "tame" school holidays : http://www.nist.ac.th/Albums/Wai%20Khru%20Day%202006/Forms/AllItems.aspx the ritual act of "making merit" (tamboon) to a teacher is also found in many other aspects of Thai culture : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_of_Thailand http://gampell.com/globetattoo.htm http://www.taomountain.org/thai-medicine/dhamma.html Also, before a Muay Thai (kickboxing) match the fighters will perform some ritual movements also referred to as "Wai Khru." Well ... hoped that at least entertained ... or distracted ... you :) "Mouth still hurts and thats worrying, ulcers seem to be clearing up a bit. Chest slightly better but breathing still somewhat of problem." I really wish I knew a magic "elixir" I could send to you and all other throat-toasted-tribulators ... and take for myself. At this point I feel like I would try anything. Right about now the 4th. Fentanyl patch (3rd. 50 unit patch) is "coming on line," and I can feel myself getting "mentally altered" by same, but the oral pain is still very acute. I'm beginning to think ... again ... that something else is "wrong" in there besides just being fried by radiation. I'm going to go to my GP here for a second opinion in an hour. I wonder if it would hurt to go on anti-biotics. At least he will actually look in my mouth. I tried doing some pranayama early this am and found it helped in the limited sense I could release some of the tensing up in my diaphragm and stomach muscles related to anticipating the pain. take care, Uncle Sally On May 27, 12:14 pm, "Uncle Sally" <uncleSa...@auldUncleSally.com> wrote: > Isi wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > take care, Uncle Sally >-Hide Quoted Text - HI Uncle Sally, Thanks for the good thoughts about the tooth which is no more, I hope to get the results from the bone biopsy (histology) tomorrow. Will also see the dentist to discover if the things growing in my mouth are ulcers as I hope, but have never had before, or something else. I enjoyed my trip around Thailand - leaping from pages into pages that you did not list, it looks like a fascinating place. Perhaps one day I will make it over there, it had crossed my mind for the winter if I have not by then sorted out a place to live in the countryside. To stay in this wood smoke filled town for another winter would be courting disaster. I also feel myself mentally altered by the painkillers and mine are nowhere near as strong as yours, I must say I don't like the sensation and wonder at people who do it for 'fun'. I find that somehow these painkillers seem to affect the more 'etheric' side of being. Following your lead I decided to do some yoga stretches and breathing - not perfect - not much, but boy it did make a difference to my sense of well-being, felt some contact with real me, and that's sooo good. Offers some reassurance that one is still in there somewhere :-) I read on your thread that you went to your GP and now have anti- biotic for fungal infection of the mouth, I do hope these are helping and that pain is reducing. Are you incorporating any traditional Thai medicine in your healing program? All the best, isi > > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Wednesday may 23rd. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Thanks for asking ;-) > isi Hi isi, That's a great idea for the teachers. May 24 (here) is (Queen) Victoria Day. (an excuse for kids to light up fire crackers, otherwise pretty quiet) This is the first I"ve heard of ulcers. From having a tooth extracted? I feel I should know what's causing your mouth pain and redness. Strep? J > > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Wednesday may 23rd. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Mouth still hurts and thats worrying, ulcers seem to be clearing up a > bit. Chest slightly better but breathing still somewhat of problem. isi, I'm concerned about the mouth sores and the mouth on fire. There's a number of possibles.. an allergic reaction to Azitrox (which is Zithromax -Azithromycin) I've taken it fine for 2 or 3 days. *** The mouth sores bothers me. Since you've been diagnosed with CFS for years. They mention sun-sensitivity for this medication and rash, but not mouth sores. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/zithromaxsusp_ad.htm If you're well enough, please get bloodwork for the following: ANA TSH Vit B12 Folate MCH, MCV (liver, I think, related) If you get rashes (anywhere on your body, after going out in the sun) or butterfly shaped rash or redness on your cheeks across the nose, stay out of the sun. Wear sun protective hats and clothing, when outdoors. *** could be that you've taken too much, too long and your oral flora have been destroyed. This happened to me, many years ago and my mouth was on fire. The solution was changing or stopping the antibiotic and eating acidophillus (sp?) yogurt, 3 or 4 times a day. It must say "live bacteria" on it. Couple of teaspoons, 3 or 4 times a day, to get your mucosal bacteria back to normal. if the opening from the tooth pulling has not closed yet, could be risky stopping antibiotic. Ask if a different antibiotic, non sun sensitive, for your lungs. Try ulcer ease and the yogurt and get the bloodwork? If you notice mouth sores the next days after being out in sun, which improve or go away, after days not in the sun, then get the ANA test. If the pains and sores are the result of the root canal. Then ignore me about the Lupus. Talk to your doctor friend about all this. J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > to your doctor friend about all this. > J- Hide quoted text - Hi J, Thanks for your concern, nothing seems to be straightforward these days eeeek! I get my biopsy result tomorrow I hope. Will also take my mouth to the dentist so he can look at it. My gums were slightly sore before the extraction, I told him, he said they looked fine. Anyway when he gave me the first injection to freeze the gum, prior to extraction, it hurt like crazy - I have had quite a few injections into th gums over the years but this was something very different. The tooth split as he tried to remove it and it took quite a few pulls to get all of it out - the dentist said it was 'dry' whatever that means. A week before the extraction he packed the tooth with calcium. During that last week I was in more pain than ever, don't know if it had anything to do with the calcium packing. For the previous four weeks he had been putting different chemicals and antibiotics into the tooth to try to fix it. So I think my body had just had enough. I do tend to be intolerant to many chemicals in foods and household products. After the extraction the area hurt - normal I thought - then the whole mouth became a fireball, so I can now really empathise with the H&N people, it hurt to drink water even. I then went to my GP he did not look in the mouth I just told him it hurt, he listened to my lungs, and prescribed the Azitrox to take for three days, in the hope that it would clear both the lungs and the mouth problem. So I know the mouth problem is not due to Azitrox. They have both improved slightly. I can now drink tepid water and eat soft foods - the mouth pain is now localised to the area of gum in the region of the now extracted tooth but not the cavity itself thats healing slowly. I don't think I have a reaction to the sun as I have felt really unwell so not been out very much of late, and we are having cloudy days here. The thing growing in my mouth has the look of an ulcer or a cancer according to the images I found with a google search. I have been using saline and bicarb mouthwash which eases it a lot. Tooth past is now impossible to use, I carefully try to avoid the problem area but it seems to find it's way there and it hurts! Also to a lesser degree the toothpaste seems to affect the rest of my gums and tongue, they don't burn just smoulder not pleasant at all. So now I have to find a new substance to clean my teeth. In general I feel very unwell and tired, am having constipation problems as well and thats not helping matters, if it's all connected I don't know. Now I wait until tomorrow to see what I am dealing with regarding the mouth. The way I feel right now I want to stay away from all the chemicals that are being given to me unless they help in some way It seems most don't. It is very difficult here to get organic foods, when in the UK I only ate organic food and feel that much of the food here is contaminated with herbicides and pesticides, the seemingly fresh foods taste a little odd to me. I just wonder if by eating these non-organic foods I am having some sort of chemical overload. Or maybe it's the complan meal repalcement drink. It all looks very pre-industrial and rustic here, with donkeys pulling carts and people working the fields, not machines, but on the other hand they have no second thoughts about spraying crops with heavens knows what. I am praying that when I get my place I will be either have the strength or find the help for the garden to grow my own organic food. Have already decided to keep some hens. On the house buying, things are slowly moving forward, hopefully my lawyer will be able start checking the paperwork this week, ready for the notary. I do hope it all happens soon, as I know that even going into the countryside for a few hours does me the world of good, so when I get to live in that silent; stress and pollution free environment my general health will improve of that I am sure. :-) I will get Internet there but first have to organise some sort of satellite system as the village does not have phone lines. Hugs, isi Any word on the Pathology? Hoping for good news. Alex > Hi J, > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > Now I wait until tomorrow to see what I am dealing with regarding the > mouth. It's hard to know what's going on, isi. I had a tooth (molar I think) break in half when it was being extracted. He put me under, while he dug down to extract the half that did not come out. I do not recall getting mouth sores nor ulcer(ations). No infection, no antibiotics. It healed up good but I was young at the time. On the other hand, about 30 years ago, I kept getting infections and having to be on antibiotics and I recall getting mad at them and telling them to change the antibiotic. My mouth was raw/red. They told me it was stress. That's also soon after my thyroid problem was diagnosed, which can include tired and constipation. Can your doctor neighbor manually check you for a nodule or goitre and test your TSH? You mention constipation. Difficulty expelling or slowed down bowels? I think I saw you mention pelvic nodes? Which would make me think of a tumor in your colon. On the other hand, pain meds can cause constipation. Raw mouth, sores: well back then I started using baking soda and warm water to brush and still do, and infrequent use of toothpaste. I also use nystatin drops with warm water to gargle and swish, in case thrush is involved, but the raw/red mouth hasn't happened in quite a while. If you're brushing your tongue, stop temporarily and make sure your toothbrush or cup or glass isn't reinfecting you. I'm sure you'll be tired after today, so do some yoga, try the baking soda and rest. Too much on your plate at this time. I will be here, watching for your update. Hugs from me J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Hi J, [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > Hugs from me > J- Hide quoted text - Hi, Histology came back it's NOT A Metastasis :-)) yipeeeeeeee thank heavens. It is/was a cyst, don't know what sort until I see the dentist with the report - I could not go there today, so we did the results by phone. My mouth now improving, still sore around the original area of pain but less so. The extraction site is slowly healing. - I am eating spoonfuls of honey, swallowing royal jelly and propollis with ginseng. Gently brushing with bicarb, swishing with salt and bicarb in warm waiter and bought myself a soft toothbrush. I think the constipation is due to the pain meds, I have taken Mannitol fluid by mouth, which helped a little, but not enough - then I tried a biscodyl suppository, that helped a lot, but still need some help on a day by day basis I think. I have seen here that people take two meds daily for constipation, one to soften things, and one to move it along, when they are taking pain killers for an extended period of time. Do you know what the meds are called, so I can go and buy some, to keep things flowing through. I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my mind, was so worried about it being a met. Thanks to everyone for your advice and support during this. All the best and big Hugs to J isi ( a happy bunny) Isi wrote : "Histology came back it's NOT A Metastasis :-)) yipeeeeeeee thank heavens." Great news, Isi ! Congratulations :) "My mouth now improving, still sore around the original area of pain but less so. The extraction site is slowly healing. - I am eating spoonfuls of honey, swallowing royal jelly and propollis with ginseng. Gently brushing with bicarb, swishing with salt and bicarb in warm waiter and bought myself a soft toothbrush." Wow, I am wondering what magic you are using to be able to tolerate honey ? Just the smallest amount of honey triggers a stinging reaction in my throat that is intense. take care, Uncle Sally On May 30, 9:04 pm, "Uncle Sally" <uncleSa...@auldUncleSally.com> wrote: > Isi wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > take care, Uncle Sally >Hide quoted text Hi Uncle Sally, Thank you :-) The honey I use is very runny, mild and pale colour, straight from a bee-keeper. Though I don't think I would have been able to tolerate it last week when the fire in my mouth was burning at high intensity. Fortunately things are cooling down in there now. It's now discomfort rather than pain. I do hope that your mouth and throat improve soon. Are the antibiotics helping at all? All the best, isi > The honey I use is very runny, mild and pale colour, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Are the antibiotics helping at all? Hi isi, Don't be surprised if he gets quieter and quietier, as the sessions progress. It becomes a "major job" keeping atop of the side effects and getting adequate nutrition, sleep and hydration. Some H&N'ers only checked in once a week (or so), sometimes less frequently. I'm pleased to read yours has moved to a lower level of pain. Hugs J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Hugs > J >Hide quoted text - Yes I do worry about people when the go silent. Isi > Histology came back it's NOT A Metastasis :-)) yipeeeeeeee thank > heavens. It is/was a cyst, don't know what sort until I see the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > isi ( a happy bunny) Oh thanks for the hugs isi, I'm a happy bunny too to hear your news. I think biscodyl is dulcolax aka Docusate Socks was taking as follows: 250 mg of Docusate Sodium twice daily, and 17.2 mg of Senna Concentrate once daily in the morning. When it gets worse, I double up on the Senna, still all in one dose. Docusate softens. Senna creates the urge, generally within 6 hours. <from the archives> Senna might also be called Sennakot and may have an herbal equivalent. Rhubarb? Linseeds? (which might be difficult for you at this time). But don't rely on those - have the formulated stuff on hand. A fella on the BC group says change 2 days ahead, so if you know you are planning to up the pain meds, then start the "more" anti-constipation a few days earlier; likewise decreases. Sounds good in theory, butnobody can predict pain with certainty ahead of time. I guess his main point is if you make a change today, it usually reflects on what will (or won't ) happen in 2 days time. At one point, he (Socks) added milk of magnesia as well. There's some listed here by what they do http://www.msaa.com/publications/winter06/sa.html Maybe the right mix will take another load off of you. :) Names of products vary by country and/or others may chime in here with their particular favs. Hugs back to you, It's so good to hear things are improving. Interesting research. I just found out why bears are so grumpy. Hemorhoids. <g> They create a rectal plug for hibernation. J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Histology came back it's NOT A Metastasis :-)) yipeeeeeeee thank [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > create a rectal plug for hibernation. > J- Hide quoted text - Hi J Thanks for all the info, I will go and get the things to prevent a recurrence of the system blockage. I have decided to try and find an English Italian cook, That sounds very grand, and grand I aint! I do however feel that if someone were to prepare meals for me I might be able to eat more. Not being able to cook much because of lack of energy, so not eating, is a bit of a catch 22. I want to live and the weight loss will kill me if I am not very careful. In UK there is a system where people who are ill buy a weeks worth of home cooked frozen meals that are delivered. Ready to heat up and eat, when they are too ill to cook. There 's nothing like that here so maybe I can find someone to do this. I do go to restaurants sometimes but Bulgarian food is not really to my taste and it's a whole number just getting there in the first place. Alternatively I could struggle on until winter then hibernate like a bear lol All the best with hugs isi > Thanks for all the info, I will go and get the things to > prevent a recurrence of the system blockage. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > sometimes but Bulgarian food is not really to my taste and it's a > whole number just getting there in the first place. Those frozen meals sound wonderful. It's hard to keep a variety going, especially singles. Who get stuck in a "food" rut, for a number of reasons. If one buys a, for instance, head of lettuce, it's less expensive, but goes bad faster. And mixed salad in pkgs are expensive. That's where gardens are wonderful. :) Go out and see what's ready to eat and join it up with a frozen dinner. hmmm. I just thought of something I can do with extra plant pots. So it'll be another busy day for me today. Wow, an English Italian cook. Good luck, isi, I hope you find one very soon. Hugs to you, J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Thanks for all the info, I will go and get the things to [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Hugs to you, > J >Hide quoted text - Hi J Hope you had fun planting pots yesterday :-) Hugs Isi > > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Thanks for all the info, I will go and get the things to [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Hugs Isi I didn't. Pulled down curtains and blinds instead and cleaned out the car. And shovelled up blacktop; workers next door left a mess on the road and streetlawn and driveway. that stuff sticks to shoes and car, so wanted to get rid of it. The blinds are in the tub soaking... And the pots and seeds are on the porch to remind me as soon as i have time. the neighbor stained this side of his fence; What a wonderful difference. Been looking at at a bedraggled-looking fence for 5 years. The lawns mowed but growing again. I left one spot for buttercups. Remember buttercups? We hold under the chin and it's supposed to mean something, if we can see yellow on the skin, but I forget what (it's supposed to mean). So they escaped the mower so i can go out and lie there and hold the buttercup under my chin and remember...younger days. :) Spring, as in "sunny" has been a long time coming. Now I can see all the dust; now the (Spring) work begins.. Room by room. A month late because of the weather here. There's village yard sale today, a friend was supposed to come, so why I cleaned up the car, but she did not call, so phooey to her. The sales are in one village but houses in outlying areas also put their stuff out, so a vehicle is best for getting around fast from one place to another and bringing things back. hmmm.. I should have grabbed the cat last night that bugs us when we're walking. I call him "rub and roll". He trips us up, rubbing between out feet and sometimes gets accidentally kicked, so now he attacks our shoes, and then drops down and purrs and wants his belly rubbed, right in front of our walking, in the dark and he's all black. . What a character. I don't want another cat. Maybe I could have sold him. <g> J >>> islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: >>>> Thanks for all the info, I will go and get the things to [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > Maybe I could have sold him. <g> > J If you hold a buttercup under your chin means you like butter if it shows a yellow glow. We used to do that when we were kids, and make daisy chains :-) Caz. Scott's mom > >>> islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Caz. > Scott's mom Thanks Caz. The clues were all there, but I missed them. :) I don't remember there being daisies where we lived, nor here, but while we're OT, (do you) happen to remember the name of "low-growing" weeds in a lawn that have small pinkish/purple flowers? Bees (or cows) like them, they're sweet and delicious. I leave those patches unmowed as well. I must be getting pica combined with alzheimer's because I want to eat what's in our lawn, but don't remember their names. <g> (I know right after someone posts the name, I'll slap myself silly for not remembering). If you don't see me post later today, I'll be outside in the buttercup "field" chewing my cud on those flowers. <g> J >>>>> islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: >>>> Hope you had fun planting pots yesterday :-) [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > flowers. <g> > J Honeysuckle comes to mind, but I don't think that is what you are referring too. I think I know the ones you mean though, but I can't remember the name of them either (haha)Hopefully someone else will know, coz I want to know now (haha). Enjoy your buttercups :-) Best wishes. Caz. Scott's mom > >>> islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Caz. > Scott's mom- Hide quoted text - Hi Maybe your thinking of clover, very sweet sort of round flower heads, leaves a bit like a shamrock leaves. Sounds like it's been all go at your place - new asphalt and stained fence - ready for lazy summer days, munching on the clover. I remember buttercups they were a sweet way to tell if you like butter - daft things we did as kids. lol. Yes daisy chains necklaces, bracelets and for our hair - oh cute days. Hope you are making the most of your new table and seating. I am a step closer to my new house, next step the notary in a couple of weeks if all goes well with the legal checks. My cats came here with me from England, they miss their garden and like their mum going a bit stir crazy living in an apartment. They were feral rescue cats and I think they are 10 and 11 years old now, but not to sure - my goal is to outlive them as I made a commitment to them when they came to live with me. Hugs, isi > Maybe your thinking of clover, very sweet sort of round flower heads, > leaves a bit like a shamrock leaves. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > but not to sure - my goal is to outlive them as I made a commitment to > them when they came to live with me. Thanks isi, yes on quieter times we do get to sit out and enjoy the table. And yes it was and is clovers. I hope the legals clear up soon for you and you and your felines will be soon enjoying your own place. Tooth situation still improving? Hugs J > >while we're OT, (do you) happen to > > remember the name of "low-growing" weeds in a lawn that have small pinkish/purple flowers? Bees (or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Enjoy your buttercups :-) Wasn't meant to be. I could summarize the past 7 days as "too much". Shovelling the blacktop caused my left elbow paining so bad I could not pull on the car safety belt, so friend did it up every time we got back in the car. Police was at the sale, so I asked him ( and everybody else) if they'd buy a stray cat. <g.> Everybody said "no", but stray he is no more. That's another story, but if he checks out ok at the vets , he'll be neutered and immunized and put up for adoption. He's at "animal control". I seem to have driven the long way. Next time, I'll use Mapquest, if there is a next time. Translation: stray cat took uo almost all of my afternoon. And then out walking feeling very optimistic that the "cat following us" problem is solved. A new stray is following us. Jeeez...... Saturday, we overdid (sun/heat/ driving)...then went to visit a frined of ours who has colon cancer mets to liver and lung. He's worsening and was unable to join us for a number of reasons, so we went to him. It was a nice, quiet visit and well-timed, because, surprise to me (and friend), they might be doing a major resection on his liver soon. Oh yes and it's clovers. White, white and pink and various shades of pink/purple. I'll eat them... Later.. J > hmmm.. I should have grabbed the cat last night that bugs us when we're walking. > I call him "rub and roll". He trips us up, rubbing between out feet and sometimes gets [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > - Show quoted text - This is off topic, but I hope you don't let your cat outside, Perhaps the biggest argument for keeping a cat indoors is his life expectancy, which is dramatically greater than that of a cat living outside or even one allowed out via a pet door or other access method. Cats who live solely outdoors live about three to five years on the average while the average life expectancy of indoor cats is 14 years or longer. All my inside cats have lived an average of 20 years the cats I let out died at a young age. The discssion of risk of ct scans are not as defined as the fact if want your cat to live a long life, keep it indoors! >> hmmm.. I should have grabbed the cat last night that bugs us when >> we're walking. I call him "rub and roll". He trips us up, rubbing [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > not as defined as the fact if want your cat to live a long life, keep > it indoors! I'm struggling to keep Bartholomew in. He's getting bolder & lunges for garage, basement, closed off parts of the house & outside. All of my previous kitties went outside some. 15 year old Isaac does. There is risk. We have fox & cars. They stay close. I don't know about Barth- Mew since he's young & wild. My 22 year old went out some. None of my other kitties suffered any harm by going out, though it could happen. We get very little traffic here, but still. My next door neighbor (50s) likes to drive his sports car too fast. Kitty Barth-Mew hangs out in the windows & has a carpet perch. When I drove up this evening, both were in the same open window. Waiting for Mommy. So adorable. He loves his carpeted skyscraper & currently enjoys unpotting my plants. I found another potting soil mess this evening. He also enjoys shredding lace tablecloths & taking tassels apart. He has me wrapped... Fig On May 30, 12:52 pm, islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Hi J, [quoted text clipped - 111 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Womderful news....I have made the decision, next time I have pain go straight and have the tooth extracted instead of a root canal. Having an implant is much easier. Glad to hear that is what only a bum tooth. > On May 30, 12:52 pm, islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 119 lines] > > - Show quoted text - >- Hide quoted text - Thanks Alex, :-) I had to try to save it. Blessings isi >> islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: >> > Hi J, [quoted text clipped - 114 lines] > > isi ( a happy bunny) isi, I am thrilled to hear your fabulous news. Have you ever tried grinding up some flax seed in a coffee/spice grinder & drinking it in some apple juice or something? It is usually very effective for constipation - on top of the medications. I feel like I could write a book about 100 things to do with a rotesserie chicken. The already cooked chicken with the skin makes a wonderful soup stock. Sometimes I use half of the chicken for that which can then be chicken & rice, chicken noodle, chicken & corn...whatever soup. Then the other half I cut up & make into meals. Kashi is good with chicken tomatoes, corn, black beans, onions, peppers, kitchen sink. Can change the taste with seasonings & freeze. I don't know if you have those, but if you like chicken, they give you a head start. Maybe you could get that cook to make you up a bunch of single servings for the freezer. There are people here who come to your home & do that. We have some frozen meals that are pretty good like Weight Watchers, Lean Cusine & Stauffers. When Socks was home, I'd keep some of those in the freezer for easy meals. We also have franchised places where you go from station to station putting together meals the place has prepared the ingredients for. You can apparently do several weeks' worth in an hour or so. And you can customize to taste somewhat.Then you take home & freeze. I don't know what is available to you, but the chef sounds interesting. Fig > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote innews:1180543943.265376.171800@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com: > [quoted text clipped - 149 lines] > Fig >Hide quoted text- Hi Fig, Thanks for your reply, yes I am delighted that it's not a met. I now wish for all the pain to go away, it's not so much now just enough to irritate ones peace a little. Great ideas for the rotisserie chicken, I have discovered a place that sells them so that will help me a lot. There are not really any frozen meals here, only pizzas and pastries at the moment, but things seem to be opening up since EU membership and German supermarkets hit town. My looking for a cook idea, is really looking for someone who can come in once a week and cook a bunch of meals to freeze. My energy is very low so I find cooking difficult. I have placed a chair in the kitchen which helps a bit as I can sit between stirring, chopping, whatever :-) if I leave the kitchen and go sit down somewhere else I tend to forget what I was doing. Now have to try and sort out some lunch lol All the best, isi >> > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: >> > > Wednesday may 23rd. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > me about the Lupus. Talk to your doctor friend about all this. > J I have also bought acidophillus powder at the health food store. I take that &/or yogurt whenever I take antibiotics (rarely, but I'm finishing a course now). If I don't, I tend to get diarrea &/or bladder infections. Fig > > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > course now). If I don't, I tend to get diarrea &/or bladder infections. > Fig- Hide quoted text - Hi Not feeling up to writing lots today as very tired and shaky. The tooth extraction site is still slowly healing. The burning mouth has become almost normal. The big problem is that the original pain is still with me, in fact it has increased in area along the jaw and into the ear. The cheek feels hot to the touch, and I am worried, not sure where to go from here. The house I found fell through, some legal problems with the documents, so yesterday I found another house and now in process of buying - tomorrow I go there with the builders to create some sort of design to get it fixed up, with good luck and god on my side I hope to move in at the end of August. Another bit of good news is that my appetite is increasing a little I can now consume just under half a 'normal' size meal - without tummy pain - yipee! I have not had the courage to weigh myself yet, I guess the truth is in the scales, if I have stopped the weight loss or not. Fig, thanks for the cooked chicken idea it really works, having one in the frige kept me going for 3 days with a salad. J, Hope you are feeling more relaxed now after your good deed for the kitty :-) and that your elbow has recovered. It's coming up to noon and I off to boil some eggs, then back to bed for the rest of the day I think. all the best, isi >> > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > > all the best, isi Good morning isi, I am sorry to hear about the house & its legal problems. Friends of mine had similar when they were retiring to a small town. They went on a long backpack vacation between houses & arrived ready to close & move in only to find themselves completely homeless b/c problems turned up during the title search. Like you, they quickly found another they love & are still there years later. For the chicken, you can 'afford' a treat I allow myself only sparingly - chicken pasta with olive oil! Just boil up the shaghetti, add sauted onions, garlic, peppers, tomatoes, squash, broccoli. anything around, heat up some shredded chicken, add whatever seasonings you like & toss with olive oil. I have garlic chives & basil growing out back to add. Add shredded cheese on tip. Olive oil should help that meal slide down. I usually end up with enough for several meals. Hope you have a wonderful day. Fig > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote innews:1181204979.496191.115430@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com: > [quoted text clipped - 112 lines] > > Fig- Hide quoted text - Ummm Fig that recipe sounds wonderful, I'll get all the bits and give it a try :-) Do you think it's safe to freeze these pre-cooked chickens? I think they are going to become the basis of my diet, lol - but when I move it will be more difficult to get them. Oh and the new house is far better than the one that fell through. This one even has a sort of funky cottage attached, so will be able to provide a space for a meditator needing a quite time and place. Not quite my original plan, but close enough in these changed circumstances all the best, isi >> islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote >> innews:1181204979.496191.115430@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 130 lines] > all the best, > isi I think it's safe, especially if done right away, but you'd eventually lose something in the texture, if that matters. Chickens aren't usually frozen before cooked, so you'd be freezing for the 1st time, so I'd think OK. Glad you like the house so much. Can't wait to hear you've settled in with your own flock below! And having meditation going on around you sounds like a postitve energy. Hope your today is good, Fig > Not feeling up to writing lots today as very tired and shaky. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > into the ear. The cheek feels hot to the touch, and I am worried, not > sure where to go from here. Just a quickie, isi 1) try ice chips? 2. I checked sci.med.dentistry and one poster said the following (about root canal) My #11 is a RC with an enamel over gold crown. It would occasionally HURT LIKE HELL (and I'd ask here if it was possible for a supposedly dead tooth to hurt, and the answer was yes, since there are parts left that are still capable of feeling pain). In my case, it wasn't my #11 that was the source of the pain, though - it was referred pain from #15, which was so bad it had to put down humanely (extracted, to be technical). At least, this is what the actual dentists who have seen my teeth have told me! All I know is since the horrible tooth was pulled, #11 doesn't bother me anymore. So it can still hurt after root canal and/or it could be referred from another tooth. But I don't know if that's what's happening or the cause of your pain or if it's mets or more infection (I think both can involve inflammation). Are you allowed an antiinflammatory ? Ibuprofen? Gotta go, too windy, if the power goes off, I'll lose everything. hugs, isi, J I thought isi had the tooth pulled...Also when I had a tooth pulled I was advised not to eat anything too cold or too hot. I would hope the dentist did a complete exam when she was under acute care. More than one time I would think one tooth was bad only to find it was another tooth. One cause of pain after an extraction is dry socket...hope you feel better soon. > I thought isi had the tooth pulled...Also when I had a tooth pulled I > was advised not to eat anything too cold or too hot. I would hope the > dentist did a complete exam when she was under acute care. More than > one time I would think one tooth was bad only to find it was another > tooth. One cause of pain after an extraction is dry socket...hope you > feel better soon. >Hide quoted text Thanks Alex, Yes I did have it pulled, I hope it was the right one ! all best, isi > > I thought isi had the tooth pulled...Also when I had a tooth pulled I > > was advised not to eat anything too cold or too hot. I would hope the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > all best, isi I was thinking...dentists used to tap lightly on each tooth, I think to see which caused the pain. I wonder if they do that these days, but won't know unless I get a chance to ask one later this week. Of course, when we're there, they've got their hands in our mouths, so it's difficult to ask questions, but I will try. :) J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > I thought isi had the tooth pulled...Also when I had a tooth pulled I [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > difficult to ask questions, but I will try. :) > J- Hide quoted text - Hi J, Yes dentists still tap on each tooth to find the pain. Hope your visit was smooth and nothing needed doing. My saga continues with pain then, I found some remaining tooth that had worked it's way up so with tweezers and a mirror I managed to pull that out. The hole was still not healing but since I got that bit of tooth, it's starting to heal, haha :-) Much of the sore sensation has gone and the fire is a distant memory - still have ear pain. Next day I have the sensation of a knife stabbing my, I thought, kidney, ouch, really bad I went to bed with the heat pad anyway I positioned myself it hurt, managed to sleep eventually (my answer to all problems is sleep!) Next day the pain had moved to side, next day further to the front - went to the doctor. I have inflammation and infection in the lung, same side as my lung tumour, all my things seem to happen on my left side. The doctor gave me an injection for the inflammation and some more antibiotics, Cefuroxime for the infection. The lung pain is reduced a little but now have to take some sort of additional pain killer twice a day for it. Going back to see the Doctor on Monday. This is worrying as I don't really have much space in that part of my left lung for any inflammation, and I wonder if it's connected to the cancer mets there or perhaps the cause of the tooth infection moved down there. Needless to say I hope this infection clears quickly, but my feeling is that these antibiotics are not up to the job,as I almost finished them and still have symptoms, but am getting stronger than I was this time last week - when I almost passed out in the street after a couple of hundred yards slow walking, much to the embarrassment and all the best,concern of my friend, she is just 18 years old, so thats understandable. It's wonderful finding a young friend, so refreshing, she is going to Uni with the ambition of becoming a forensic psychologist, an amazing girl. isi > Yes dentists still tap on each tooth to find the pain. Hope your > visit was smooth and nothing needed doing. All went well. Thanks isi. > My saga continues with pain then, I found some remaining tooth that > had worked it's way up so with tweezers and a mirror I managed to pull > that out. The hole was still not healing but since I got that bit of > tooth, it's starting to heal, haha :-) Imagine that! You solved it yourself. I'm so pleased to hear that. > Much of the sore sensation has gone and the fire is a distant memory - > still have ear pain. Isi, this topic has been going on since April 4th and you've only recently mentioned ear pain. I've got TMJ on one side only. It gets flared up by clenching teeth, grinding, arthritis (cold wind), things that keep the mouth open too wide. (and for long periods like going to the dentist. When it starts, I press and hold the joint area/muscle and/or tell them i have to take a break. If it flares up and continues, i use moist heat and massage. What happened is I had pain on and off for years until I mentioned to doctor who sent me for x-ray to rule out fracture in the joint. We determined it was not dislocated. Unless you had the ear pain from the beginning, I would suspect TMJ from all the procedures. Or referred pain from the tooth or infection. Recent dental work is listed here http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/505738 (i'll post separately so you don't have to bother with login). There are other causes of ear pain. (if you want to list them and see if any make sense or have been ruled out. on TV they say not to use Q-tip for cleaning out ear because it pushes the wax in further. Some here (may be repeats but say how to clear out ear and other tips) http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003046.htm TMJ http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001227.htm http://www.tmj.org/basics.asp > Next day I have the sensation of a knife stabbing my, I thought, > kidney, ouch, really bad I went to bed with the heat pad anyway I [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > isi I'm sorry to hear about the infection in your lung. Hopefully, they'll get you on the right antibiotics and things will improve. Your young friend sounds awesome. :) Buttercups are folding camp. Bet we did get to lie in the buttercup field. it was wonderful lying out there with the big sky about and birds and butterflies flitting about. Some day soon you'll be in your "dream" home as well and enjoy your own yard. Keep in touch, Hugs from me J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Yes dentists still tap on each tooth to find the pain. Hope your [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > Hugs from me > J- Hide quoted text - Hi J The ear pain started about a couple of weeks before the extraction, I thought it was due to the infection, can't remember if I mentioned it on here or not. I have a new pain killer that is knocking out the pain in the mouth area, can't really call it tooth pain anymore as no tooth! I did a post about my new home, but it's not visible so will another. Looks like the fixing up of the house won't be finished until October! A very long wait, which saddens me I had hoped to be in by the end of August or September to catch the end of summer in rural bliss. My lung is no longer in spasm which is the good news. Enjoy your peaceful country summer, God Bless isi, Hi all Things have slowed regarding the house, the first building company for some reason pulled out. So I have had to have another team look at it for the fixing up work and quote. This gave me an excuse to go over there and enjoy it for an afternoon. There is no driveway as such the road is an earth track leading to the house, the north wall is backing on to the track. I am the only house on this track. The north wall is very long and one enters the property through a doorway between the barns and the funky cottage, walk through a sort of covered corridor thats has old beams and bricks, into a sort of courtyard area, where there is a working well and a large horse trough - which will become my paddle pool on hot afternoons. This courtyard faces the poppy field, have peach, plum, apple, fig, mulberry, walnut, almond, and cherry trees. Off the courtyard is a low gate leading into the house flower garden part, then up some steps to my new home (fingers crossed). The house faces south and has a porch that I can see myself sitting out on most of the time - very private, overlooking the poppy field. Drinking home grown camomile tea and reading a good book Betsy. :-) The house is small and all on one level so will be easy to maintain and live in, enough room for me and the the cats. I will adapt part of the barn which is massive, into a hen house and get a small flock Fig, :-) only three hens they lay approximately 300 eggs a year each, enough for me and to pass some on to friends. I could not eat a former pet! I am considering getting a dog for some extra security, I have spoken with a friend here and they will take good care and keep the dog when I am no longer here. The cats are going to live with my dearest friend in the States when I die. I plan to fence off a small part of the field so the cats and hens can't get in, and will grow my vegies in that area. The house is my dream, rural bliss, so very quite and peaceful. There is no way I could afford the kind of life I am planning to live, back in the UK and feel really blessed to have the opportunity to do it here. Now to get the place fixed up! Big Hugs and smiles isi > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > isi This all sounds just delightful. I'd love to come and shuttle you around for odds and ends you might not have. I'd live in the barn. I just like that idea better. Consider that too. Or make a bunk house out of it for family/friends who might come by > <islavision2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > idea better. Consider that too. Or make a bunk house out of it for > family/friends who might come by- Hide quoted text - Hi Betsy You can stay in the funky cottage, you are welcome any time :-) Unless you really would prefer the barn, it's massive and has lots of interesting smelly things in it at the moment... :-) isi >> <islavision2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > isi Not the cottage! Leave that for family. I'd prefer to rummage thru the barn. Bet there might be treasures left inside there? Have you looked? Maybe with your breathing problems the barn should be off limits to you. Unless there is good ventilation to move the air. Thanks for the invite. > <islavision2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > your breathing problems the barn should be off limits to you. Unless there > is good ventilation to move the air. Thanks for the invite.- Hide quoted text - Hi Betsy, It's the barn then :-) I have not rummaged around in there yet, I put my head in the door said 'wow' as it's so huge and closed the door again - I really don't know yet what I am going to do with it. Isi > > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > My lung is no longer in spasm which is the good news. Thanks for explaining, isi. I do hope the ear pain improves. I'm not sure what a lung spasm is, but I'm releved to hear that it's stopped. Hugs J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Hugs > J- Hide quoted text - Thanks J :-) A lung spasm feels like internal upper abdominal and chest cramp very tight and it's almost impossible to breath, so breathing very shallow and painful - a steroid injection relieves it. I get them now and again. I have problems breathing most of the time. Can't walk and talk at the same time or talk on the phone for very long. Can't raise my voice so sound very quite, no air. I have got used to it now, unless a spasm hits then it's frightening. Doctors can hear when lung is in spasm. Maybe it has an English name I don't know. Hugs Isi > > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > unless a spasm hits then it's frightening. Doctors can hear when lung > is in spasm. Maybe it has an English name I don't know. I don't know, isi. I was looking at bronchospasm earlier today, but lost the web page. Spasm is mentioned here (in the medications section). http://www.chemocare.com/MANAGING/dyspnea.asp Sure sounds painful, from your description. I'm sorry that's happening. Hugs isi, J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Hugs isi, > J- Hide quoted text - Hi J, Thanks for the leads on the spasm, I had a look around the net and it seems I am receiving appropriate treatment - Ventalin (sp) and now an anti anxiety med, which is relaxing. I have been getting a bit tense of late as so much happening with both health and house. All the best, Isi > Thanks for the leads on the spasm, I had a look around the net and it > seems I am receiving appropriate treatment - Ventalin (sp) and now an > anti anxiety med, which is relaxing. I have been getting a bit tense > of late as so much happening with both health and house. Thanks isi, How are you doing now? It's been a while since we heard from you. This thread is getting very long. You may wish to start a new one (and refresh the folks as to your cancer) and what's new. Hugs J >> I was thinking...dentists used to tap lightly on each tooth, I think to see >> which caused the pain. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yes dentists still tap on each tooth to find the pain. Hope your > visit was smooth and nothing needed doing. If I understood what the dentist was telling me, they tap on the teeth to find teeth with nerve problems. If it hurts a lot when they tap one, it's a "dead" tooth. > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > hugs, isi, > J > Hide quoted text Hi J, Thanks for checking that out for me - I did wonder if a bit of nerve is still 'live' in there - who knows. The extraction site is still healing but it's so slow I guess because my whole body is working in slowmo these days. The pain is slightly less in the general area and the ear pain has reduced but not gone yet. I am using the ice chips - I cant take NSAIDS (allergic to them) and I think Ibruprofen is one. I have been taking a paracetamol in addition to my codeine and it helps take the edge off, try not to though as protecting liver is, I feel, very important - don't want any thing happening there! Have a happy week J Hugs Isi > Not feeling up to writing lots today as very tired and shaky. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > design to get it fixed up, with good luck and god on my side I hope to > move in at the end of August. Thinking of you isi, hoping things are looking up for you. J > islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Not feeling up to writing lots today as very tired and shaky. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Thinking of you isi, hoping things are looking up for you. > J >Hide quoted text Thanks J :-) Don't want to tempt fate but perhaps the pendulum is starting to swing in my favour. I feel very blessed that I am still alive, and it seems that I may be able to live my dream one day soon. My little house is so rural and it has a field full of camomile and poppy, so very pretty a living version of a Monet painting. Be well Hugs Isi > > > The house I found fell through, some legal problems with the > > > documents, so yesterday I found another house and now in process of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > My little house is so rural and it has a field full of camomile and > poppy, so very pretty a living version of a Monet painting. It sounds wonderful, isi. I've got a picture, in my mind's eye, including the funky cottage. Bureaucracy and paperwork takes so long. I'll be so happy, for you, when you're moved in there :) Has it a long driveway? Or winding driveway? Any trees? Wood clapboard siding? A front or rear open porch? Tell us more when you feel like it I enjoy hearing about others' "dream homes" Gentle hugs to you. J >> islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: >> > Not feeling up to writing lots today as very tired and shaky. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Hugs Isi Camomile tea, sipping in your lawn chair, with a kitten on your lap beside a good book, of course! Looking out over the slowers. Go by the library and get a book or 2 by Phillip R Craig and William G Tappley. They write soft mysteries about Martha's Vineyard, Mass. Nothing too involved and very easy reading. I bet you could use some light reading to pass time. We all can.. I know it helps my mind and it might help you too. Tell us more about your new dream house. Betsy islavision2004@yahoo.com wrote in news:1181546541.019717.114360 @w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: >> islavision2...@yahoo.com wrote: >> > Not feeling up to writing lots today as very tired and shaky. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Hugs Isi Sounds like a fairy tale to me, isi. I wish I could see. Fig, who lives in the burbs with a few poppies in tended bed |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2008 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.