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Lori - 17 Feb 2007 16:37 GMT
Hey group.  Been a while.  I been quite busy the last couple of
months.  Murray stopped responding to chemo last month.  The
oncologists gave him only a few weeks to a couple months to live.
Well, typical of me, I wouldn't settle for that.  After a couple of
days of feeling absolutly hopeless, Murray said to me "Well, let's try
this natural crap you've been babbling about"  Yay!!  So I called my
uncle, who as you all may remember is an N.D, he pointed in the
direction of an N.D closer to my town, and she is currently treating
Murray for free. Bless her heart. Amazingly, he started drinking some
pau d'arco tea, taking coral calcium, and drinking lots of blueberry
juice, and the blasts in his blood are steadily decreasing.  I know
how you all feel about this natural stuff, but I'm telling you, I'm
literally watching it work.  He has gone off ALL drugs.  His
oncologist is confused and feeling foolish and I've never been more
thrilled to make someone feel silly. His blasts were at 25 last week,
and today, as I'm typing, they are 0.5. The nurse who gave us the
results, actually took MORE blood from him and RECONDUCTED the blood
test because she was so sure it was wrong. Guess what?  It was right.
The cancer is literally dying, and Murray is living. I would seriously
suggest looking more into this.  Not only that, but his platelets,
whicj had been on a steady decline, are also going up, (from 12 to 55
in a week)  HAHAHA!!  And these idiots were gonna write him off. Told
me to plan his funeral. Ain't happening. tc all.
J - 17 Feb 2007 17:06 GMT
> Hey group.  Been a while.  I been quite busy the last couple of
> months.  Murray stopped responding to chemo last month.  The
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> in a week)  HAHAHA!!  And these idiots were gonna write him off. Told
> me to plan his funeral. Ain't happening. tc all.

Well, last time he was in remission for 2 months without this stuff..
so time will tell, Lori (and of course he did have chemo for the
leukemia).
The "common" cancers are different.

It says here "less than 5% blasts in the marrow and no signs or symptoms
of the disease"
Then that paragraph goes on to mention other criteria before declaring a
remission.
I do hope the chemo did the trick for Murray.
J
Lori - 19 Feb 2007 09:55 GMT
> > Hey group.  Been a while.  I been quite busy the last couple of
> > months.  Murray stopped responding to chemo last month.  The
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It's interesting J that the oncologists are stunned and awed and you
aren't.  They are quite clear that the chemo did not work.  See, after
the chemo, Murr's counts dropped as expected, but, the cells that
returned were blasts.  That happened twice.  It's been a month since
the chemo.  They were preparing to move him to pallative care.  His
doc said that either whatever we are doing with the N.D is working, or
Murray's body is correcting itself.  He went on to say that each
possibility goes against everything he's been taught.
J - 19 Feb 2007 19:15 GMT
> > > Hey group.  Been a while.  I been quite busy the last couple of
> > > months.  Murray stopped responding to chemo last month.  The
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> Murray's body is correcting itself.  He went on to say that each
> possibility goes against everything he's been taught.

Well, I've lost your husband's type of cancer, but if it's AML, there's 464
people here who probably love to hear from you.  Or might have some to share
with you.
http://www.acor.org/mlists/mlists.html
J
OldBill - 19 Feb 2007 19:25 GMT
>> > Hey group.  Been a while.  I been quite busy the last couple of
>> > months.  Murray stopped responding to chemo last month.  The
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> Murray's body is correcting itself.  He went on to say that each
> possibility goes against everything he's been taught.

Good on you Lori, and Murray too.Every good wish for the future.
You have been bold and as they say "Fortune favours the Brave."

Old Bill.

 All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
        Schopenhauer
J - 19 Feb 2007 19:28 GMT
>   All truth passes through three stages.
>  First, it is ridiculed.
>  Second, it is violently opposed.
> Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
>          Schopenhauer

Then it gets disproven by clinical trials
J
OldBill - 19 Feb 2007 20:44 GMT
>>   All truth passes through three stages.
>>  First, it is ridiculed.
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> Then it gets disproven by clinical trials
> J

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, J.
SPHINX Technologies - 25 Feb 2007 00:17 GMT
>>   All truth passes through three stages.
>>  First, it is ridiculed.
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>Then it gets disproven by clinical trials
>J

... Which OUGHT TO result in the opening of an investigation
into exactly WHAT KIND OF FRAUD is going on in those clinical trials!!!

Not to mention making one wonder just what the objective of mean-spirited
people like this "J" really is -- seeing people recover their health and
survive their ordeal with cancer, or defending the "status quo" of
today's mainstream medicine.

J, just remember, leaches and bloodletting were once the official
"PROVEN" treatment recommended by doctors.
J - 25 Feb 2007 00:32 GMT
> Not to mention making one wonder just what the objective of mean-spirited
> people like this "J" really is -- seeing people recover their health and
> survive their ordeal with cancer, or defending the "status quo" of
> today's mainstream medicine.

That's sure not me ; mistaken ID John.
J
SPHINX Technologies - 25 Feb 2007 00:42 GMT
>> Not to mention making one wonder just what the objective of mean-spirited
>> people like this "J" really is -- seeing people recover their health and
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>That's sure not me ; mistaken ID John.
>J

Sorry, apologies to "J", but the grumble still stands, against whoever
it was who focused on defending mainstream oncology instead of celebrating
a victory against cancer just because so-called "unproven" methods
were used -- and worked -- where mainstream oncology did not.
J - 25 Feb 2007 00:42 GMT
> >> Not to mention making one wonder just what the objective of mean-spirited
> >> people like this "J" really is -- seeing people recover their health and
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> a victory against cancer just because so-called "unproven" methods
> were used -- and worked -- where mainstream oncology did not.

chemo has its uses.
Unproven is unproven.
Some posters here are currently trying "unproven".
If they're honest, they'll report back to us.
J
 
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