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Cesium chloride?

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Tee Doubleyou - 25 Jan 2007 04:00 GMT
Anybody with personal experience in using Cesium chloride is reading this NG?
If so, would you please share your pros and cons or any impression you may
have?
Lung cancer after chemo and radiation went into remission but after a full
year of relatively good health metastized to back bone and pelvis. Another
series of radiation took place but now pain is almost unbearable.
Is cesium chloride any worthwhile option? Any good sources of reliable
information on the web?
Will appreciate any and all answers. Thanks in advance,
TD
J - 25 Jan 2007 10:42 GMT
> Anybody with personal experience in using Cesium chloride is reading this NG?
> If so, would you please share your pros and cons or any impression you may
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> Will appreciate any and all answers. Thanks in advance,
> TD

I'm sorry about your pain, Tee.
If it's not in clinical trials, it's probably not worth looking into.
cesium chloride is found in mineral springs and in seawater.
You'd probably feel better putting some in a warm bath. (** but I've never tried
it)
If no more radiation is possible, it's best to get involved with hospice, who
should be able to help you with the pain.
Keep in touch and let us know how your're doing.
J
Tee Doubleyou - 25 Jan 2007 16:57 GMT
>>I'm sorry about your pain, Tee.
>If it's not in clinical trials, it's probably not worth looking into.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Keep in touch and let us know how your're doing.
>J

Thank you for you answer,
Tee
--
Verba volant, scripta manent.
Matti Narkia - 25 Jan 2007 11:12 GMT
>Anybody with personal experience in using Cesium chloride is reading this NG?
>If so, would you please share your pros and cons or any impression you may
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Will appreciate any and all answers. Thanks in advance,
>TD

Personally, I don't think that cesium chloride helps in cancer. It's
use seems to be based on the idea, that cancer has low pH, and trying
to raise it with cesium or rubidium could somehow help. However, low
pH of cancer cells is not a cause of cancer, but just the result of
lactid acid build-up in tumors in hypoxic conditions caused by poor
supply of blood into the tumor.

I don't know anyone who has used cesium. I have sometimes looked into
it and found some information of questionable quality. I provide this
info below mainly for historical reasons. I'm not endorsing or
recommending this kind of treatment,

This line of research was apparently originated by Aubrey Keith
Brewer, Ph.D. Dr. Brewer died in 1986, and it seems that this research
died with him. The site

Brewer Science Library--Brewer Articles
http://www.mwt.net/~drbrewer/brew_art.htm

contains some of his work. Especially the article

The High pH Therapy for Cancer
Tests on Mice and Humans
A. KEITH BREWER, Ph.D.
(Reprinted from Pharmacology Biochemistry & Behavior, v. 21, Suppl.,
1)
http://www.mwt.net/~drbrewer/highpH.htm

may be worth reading, if one is interested in forming an opinion about
this therapy.

Below also some Medline references:

1: Pinsky C, Bose R.
Pharmacological and toxicological investigations of cesium.
Pharmacol Biochem Behav. 1984;21 Suppl 1:17-23.
PMID: 6543004 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6
543004&dopt=Abstract


2: Sartori HE.
Nutrients and cancer: an introduction to cesium therapy.
Pharmacol Biochem Behav. 1984;21 Suppl 1:7-10.
PMID: 6522434 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6
522434&dopt=Abstract


3: Messiha FS, Stocco DM.
Effect of cesium and potassium salts on survival of rats bearing
Novikoff hepatoma.
Pharmacol Biochem Behav. 1984;21 Suppl 1:31-4.
PMID: 6522431 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6
522431&dopt=Abstract


4: Messiha FS.
Biochemical aspects of cesium administration in tumor-bearing mice.
Pharmacol Biochem Behav. 1984;21 Suppl 1:27-30.
PMID: 6522430 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6
522430&dopt=Abstract


5: Tufte MJ, Tufte FW, Brewer AK.
The response of colon carcinoma in mice to cesium, zinc and vitamin A.
Pharmacol Biochem Behav. 1984;21 Suppl 1:25-6.
PMID: 6522429 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6
522429&dopt=Abstract


6:  Sartori HE.
Cesium therapy in cancer patients.
Pharmacol Biochem Behav. 1984;21 Suppl 1:11-3.
PMID: 6522427 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6
522427&dopt=Abstract


7:  Brewer AK.  
The high pH therapy for cancer tests on mice and humans.
Pharmacol Biochem Behav. 1984;21 Suppl 1:1-5.
PMID: 6522424 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6
522424&dopt=Abstract

http://www.mwt.net/~drbrewer/highpH.htm (full text)

8: Messiha FS.
Effect of cesium and ethanol on tumor bearing rats.
Pharmacol Biochem Behav. 1984;21 Suppl 1:35-40.
PMID: 6395134 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6
395134&dopt=Abstract


9: Brewer AK, Clarke BJ, Greenberg M, Rothkopf N.
The effects of rubidium on mammary tumour growth in C57 blk/6J mice.
Cytobios. 1979;24(94):99-101.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=4
3800&dopt=Abstract


10: El-Domeiri AA, Messiha FS, Hsia WC.
Effect of alkali metal salts on Sarcoma I in A/J mice.
J Surg Oncol. 1981;18(4):423-9.
PMID: 6275211 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6
275211&dopt=Abstract


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Tee Doubleyou - 25 Jan 2007 16:57 GMT
Thank you very much for so muc information,
Tee

>Personally, I don't think that cesium chloride helps in cancer. It's
>use seems to be based on the idea, that cancer has low pH, and trying
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>supply of blood into the tumor.
>----------------------------cut--------------------
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Verba volant, scripta manent.
betty - 28 Jan 2007 13:43 GMT
do investigate the responses that you recieve.
sartori helfried, if you google his name, you will notice that he now
resides in a thai prison. he also was associated with another snake
oil conman in melbourne australia, a paul rana of nuera "health".

take care and do look after yourself. there are plenty of health
conmen out there more than happy to take your money and your hope,
betty

> Thank you very much for so muc information,
> Tee
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> >----------------------------cut----------------------
> Verba volant, scripta manent.
J - 26 Jan 2007 10:07 GMT
http://www.pathguy.com/altermed.htm#cesium
 
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