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Follow-up on my friend's friend's lung cancer

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Figgertoes - 22 Dec 2006 02:06 GMT
Awhile back, I posted about my friend's 'second father's' lung cancer.  He
was considering surgery & had it.  I'll post what my friend sent me today:

My friend that has lung cancer had his surgery last month, after
Thanksgiving. The surgery went well, but his recovery has been riddled with
one problem after another. Currently he is not in too good of shape. He has
not been able to breathe on his own, he relies on a ventilator.  His good
lung was then infected with pneumonia.  He has been receiving nitrate oxide
to help him breathe, but apparently that is contributing to his good lung
stiffening. He has been unsuccessful breathing on his own and has been in
an induced coma since the surgery. He also suffered two strokes, one during
the surgery and one a few weeks later.  Things are not looking too good,
the doctors are telling the family to prepare for the worst.  It is
heartbreaking.  The doctors are so frustrated because they said he was a
prime candidate, in good health and shape. They said the surgery was
perfect and a success. But that since then, everything that could possibly
go wrong, has.  There is still a little bit of hope, but it is not
promising.  

Fig
betsyb - 22 Dec 2006 02:21 GMT
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> Awhile back, I posted about my friend's 'second father's' lung cancer.  He
> was considering surgery & had it.  I'll post what my friend sent me today:
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>
> Fig
That is so sad, but it does happen. After spending three years working in a
Hosp in Anchorage I found it quite heartbreaking. That is not the job for
me. My prayers will follow your friend's Dad. Wish there was something that
could be done.
alex - 22 Dec 2006 04:11 GMT
It must be hard for your friend, where you close with her Dad? I you are
sorry to hear about another significant loss in your life. Lung cancer
sucks. It sounds like it is end stage for him. Are you part of the inner
circle in decision making? Are you a health care proxy for this man?
If it is  just a friend's father, you know how to support her, give her
rides to and from the hospital. Perhaps help make funeral arrangements.
Help her will her bills.  Stay on the phone allowing her to vent. With your
care giving experience you can hopefully make it an easier time for her and
her father by guiding them along.

>> Awhile back, I posted about my friend's 'second father's' lung cancer.
>> He
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> for me. My prayers will follow your friend's Dad. Wish there was something
> that could be done.
Figgertoes - 22 Dec 2006 13:37 GMT
> It must be hard for your friend, where you close with her Dad? I you
> are sorry to hear about another significant loss in your life. Lung
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>> is not the job for me. My prayers will follow your friend's Dad. Wish
>> there was something that could be done.

I gess I should have added more to my post.

I do not know the man personally.  I have been following this through my
friend who asked me for some information when he was diagnosed.  It is
sad & they are all heartbroken.  The 2 families grew up together & remain
very close.  It's one of those rare multi-generational friendships that
endure.  It's especially sad as his prospects were so good & hopes were
high.

My friend had been slogging through some difficult times before this,
including taking her sister's 14 year old son to raise.  It seems to be
one thing after another.  

Of course, I will be here for her.  She, her husband, Socks & I were
fairly close.  They are some 20 years younger, making the man with cancer
about my age.

I did learn Socks's mother died early this morning.  She had broken her
hip a week ago & was to have surgery earlier this week.  I don't know if
she did.  She was even more elderly than most her age & very frail.  
Socks was her eldest & there were 5 other children.  So she's with Socks
now.  Wonder how he feels about that!  She tended to try his & everyone
else's patience here on earth.  I hope they have a gentler relationship
in the afterlife.

Fig

Fig
Alayne - 22 Dec 2006 09:10 GMT
> Awhile back, I posted about my friend's 'second father's' lung cancer.  He
> was considering surgery & had it.  I'll post what my friend sent me today:
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>
> Fig

I'm so sorry to read your post Fig.  The only comforting thing that I can
think to say is to send Warm Hugs to all concerned, including you.  I'm
currently helping FIL through his treatment for lung cancer and whilst his
progress appears to be very good, it's not so nice sitting in oncology
again.

Peaceful Wishes

Alayne
Figgertoes - 22 Dec 2006 16:56 GMT
> I'm so sorry to read your post Fig.  The only comforting thing that I
> can think to say is to send Warm Hugs to all concerned, including you.
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>
> Alayne

Alayne,
I am glad to hear your FIL's treatment is going well.  I am sorry you are
there revisiting a place you'd rather not be.  Hope your holidays are
wonderful with your girls.

Loving thoughts coming your way,
Fig
Alex - 22 Dec 2006 22:26 GMT
Glad to hear you are not on the frontline with your friend.  Alayne
glad to her your FIL is doing well, I admire your hands on approach
with your FIL.

To all have a safe and healthy weekend. Alex
Alayne - 23 Dec 2006 10:03 GMT
> Glad to hear you are not on the frontline with your friend.  Alayne
> glad to her your FIL is doing well, I admire your hands on approach
> with your FIL.
>
> To all have a safe and healthy weekend. Alex

Thanks Alex, although it's not something I am doing through choice.  The
surviving son now knows about his dad and his only reaction was "well, it
doesn't bode well for me, having lost a brother and now my father has
cancer".  Some peoples hearts must be made of stone.

Seasons Wishes to you too.

Hugs

Alayne
Alex - 23 Dec 2006 12:18 GMT
>> Thanks Alex, although it's not something I am doing through choice.  The
> surviving son now knows about his dad and his only reaction was "well, it
> doesn't bode well for me, having lost a brother and now my father has
> cancer".  Some peoples hearts must be made of stone.

That is my point, I share your viewpoint you need to take care of one's
family but I have experienced many family members who walk away. You
may not think it but you are a special person, you are setting a great
example for your children they will not forget what you are doing.
Not only are you helping your FIL but teaching your kids a wonderful
life's lesson.
Alayne - 26 Dec 2006 10:31 GMT
>>> Thanks Alex, although it's not something I am doing through choice.  The
>> surviving son now knows about his dad and his only reaction was "well, it
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> Not only are you helping your FIL but teaching your kids a wonderful
> life's lesson.

Thank you Alex and I never thought about your point regarding my girls.  I
simply cannot understand how someone could be so callous as to not wish to
help but rather walk away, thankfully I have a concience and would stick by
someone no matter what.

Hugs

Alayne
Alex - 23 Dec 2006 12:18 GMT
>> Thanks Alex, although it's not something I am doing through choice.  The
> surviving son now knows about his dad and his only reaction was "well, it
> doesn't bode well for me, having lost a brother and now my father has
> cancer".  Some peoples hearts must be made of stone.

That is my point, I share your viewpoint you need to take care of one's
family but I have experienced many family members who walk away. You
may not think it but you are a special person, you are setting a great
example for your children they will not forget what you are doing.
Not only are you helping your FIL but teaching your kids a wonderful
life's lesson.
Figgertoes - 23 Dec 2006 14:01 GMT
>> Glad to hear you are not on the frontline with your friend.  Alayne
>> glad to her your FIL is doing well, I admire your hands on approach
>> with your FIL.
>>
>> To all have a safe and healthy weekend. Alex


> The surviving son now knows about his dad and his only reaction was
> "well, it doesn't bode well for me, having lost a brother and now my
> father has cancer".  Some peoples hearts must be made of stone.

Yep, Tony & your FIL got cancer just to up his chances. Let's hope
something thaws his heart. It must be miserable being him.

Fig
Emily - 24 Dec 2006 00:17 GMT
Alayne said...
> The
> surviving son now knows about his dad and his only reaction was "well, it
> doesn't bode well for me, having lost a brother and now my father has
> cancer".  Some peoples hearts must be made of stone.

I suppose it's always possible that the son is just plain shocked by the
news and didn't know how he 'should' react?  Maybe it was an attempt at
a bit of ironic humour or something?  Not knowing him, it's very hard to
tell, but bearing in mind that he and his father haven't had dealings
with each other for so many years it's even possible that he feels very
bitter towards his father (or some other negative emotion) and perhaps
he doesn't really know at the moment if he cares or not.  Don't dismiss
the chap out of hand, Alayne - give him time to work out how he feels.
It may have hit him harder than even he himself knows.

Or of course the above could be a load of baloney.

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Em, whose mother, now back from Cyprus, is planning another holiday.  
Only to the Isle of Wight, but a holiday nonetheless.  'S all right for
some...

Alayne - 26 Dec 2006 10:46 GMT
> Alayne said...
>> The
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> Or of course the above could be a load of baloney.

Oh Em, you're a gem, and yes I take your point there could be some truth in
what you say but it's been a couple of months and surely he could at least
have phoned me rather than FIL direct?, or possibly have sent a seasonal
card? I think it's more likely that he's cut from the same cloth as his
mother (who didn't even bother to visit her only grandchildren, just stuck a
fiver in the post.....)

Good to read you ma is holidaying and I hope Christmas was a good one (I
would say peaceful, but not with all your tribe ;-)

Warm Hugs

Alayne
Alayne - 23 Dec 2006 09:58 GMT
>> I'm so sorry to read your post Fig.  The only comforting thing that I
>> can think to say is to send Warm Hugs to all concerned, including you.
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> Loving thoughts coming your way,
> Fig

And wishing you a wonderful and peaceful Christmas too Fig.  Hopefully
sometime in the new year peace will return to this house cos the extension
is nearly finished ..... whoa hoola .... the girls will soon get their own
rooms (and not before time!!)

Warm Hugs Hon.

Alayne
Figgertoes - 23 Dec 2006 11:53 GMT
>>> I'm so sorry to read your post Fig.  The only comforting thing that
>>> I can think to say is to send Warm Hugs to all concerned, including
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>
> Alayne

I'm glad you're coming up on the end of that project.  Seems like it's
been going on for awhile - or maybe I heard of planning stages. Now the
decoration/fun stuff!  And the girls will have more room for teen
activities out of your hair?  Tie it up with a big red bow & enjoy!

Warm hugs back,
Fig
Alayne - 26 Dec 2006 10:51 GMT
>>>> I'm so sorry to read your post Fig.  The only comforting thing that
>>>> I can think to say is to send Warm Hugs to all concerned, including
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> Warm hugs back,
> Fig

You're so right Fig, it's been six months in the build and I started with
the planning way back Sept 05!  My builders are a father/son crew and keep
disappearing on other jobs for days on end but are a lovely pair, they've
been here so long they are almost part of the family ;-)

We should be starting the decoration sometime very soon and although it will
be very chaotic I'm sure it will also be heaps of fun too.

Just need to scratch my head and think of another distraction now ;-)

Warm Hugs and Happy Holidays Fig

Alayne
 
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