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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / October 2006See a smoker call 911
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52559 See a smoker call 911  SignatureBetsyB > http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52559 > > See a smoker call 911 Guess I will scratch that off my travel list. > http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52559 > > See a smoker call 911 This is why as much as I hate being near smokers, I can't really support things like the Colorado prohibition. Chris Ness <mness215@comcast.net> wrote in news:htOdnUQlnZNh- qDYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com: >> http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52559 >> >> See a smoker call 911 > > This is why as much as I hate being near smokers, I can't really support > things like the Colorado prohibition. What? I'm not understanding what your objection is. Casinos? This is a WIP. You might want to subscribe below to see what's being done on that front & others. I see I'm not listed on the subscriber list, but I am on it. http://www.smokefree.net/co-talk/subscribers/ The invitation to report is out there but there are actually few reports, because of high rate of compliance. That was an objection in a community years ago here when a non-smoking ordinance was proposed - that the police phone lines would be clogged & reports of serious crimes wouldn't get through. But there were very few smoking calls. Once people know there is a serious enforcement effort, they just comply. Or do you just object to laws/regulation in general? I'm sorry, but with secondhand smoke, the price is just too high to ignore. And one lone smoker can put a restaurant-full of non-smokers at risk. Fig > Chris Ness <mness215@comcast.net> wrote in news:htOdnUQlnZNh- > qDYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > secondhand smoke, the price is just too high to ignore. And one lone > smoker can put a restaurant-full of non-smokers at risk. I object to enforcing morality or in this case health at the point of a gun. We already protect our drug users from themselves by shooting them. We have forgotten why we started that drug war and now we are starting another one. And it is especially frightening to me since those people who I remember from school being bullies have gone into government and police type services in such a proportion. So dial 911 if you see a smoker walking down the street and what? Shoot him if he won't put it out? Chris Ness said... > So dial 911 if you see a smoker walking down the street and what? Shoot him > if he won't put it out? It does seem a tad extreme. I can think of many things I'd like to see people get into troube for[1]; smoking isn't one of them. [1] e.g. driving with fog lights blazing away on a clear night. It's illegal here in the UK, but does anyone bother about it? No they do not. So I get dazzled to the point that I can't see the road ahead of me but that's my tough luck. Bah. Rant over. SignatureEm >> Chris Ness <mness215@comcast.net> wrote in news:htOdnUQlnZNh- >> qDYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > So dial 911 if you see a smoker walking down the street and what? > Shoot him if he won't put it out? Oh, that's a little brutal. But I think they ought to erect a gallows right there & try him on the spot. Make an example of him. This, the most heinous of crimes, warrants swift justice. And certainly no appeal. Fig Personally they should just stop selling cigarettes This would be the end of the issue. Save lives! Alex > Personally they should just stop selling cigarettes This would be the > end of the issue. > Save lives! Alex Not selling cigarettes would not solve the problem. Ever heard of prohibition? Frank (aka) "stew" Wrote I agree BAN Selling and then we don't have to regulate when and where these Suicidal Maniacs want to try and see if this is the day. I am against Government regulating our lives but I sure do hate it when some idiot tries and end my life with his cigarettes OR cigars, pipe tobacco all of needs to be banned. Frank (aka) "Stew" [CCKMA] >>> Chris Ness <mness215@comcast.net> wrote in news:htOdnUQlnZNh- >>> qDYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Fig > Frank (aka) "stew" Wrote > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Frank (aka) "Stew" [CCKMA] Regulation is justified as long as people who smoke are allowed medical treatment at the taxpayers expense. Personally, I would favor a law that would ban smokers from receiving publicly financed medical treatment for smoking related illnesses. The same holds true for things like motorcycle helmets for instance. If you do not want to use one, fine, but no public help when your brain is damaged. If you want to smoke fine, but no public help when you need oxygen tanks for your emphysema, and no public money to put you in a nursing home when you have a stroke because your brain did not get enough oxygen. I would apply this to anyone who started smoking after the time warnings were put on the cigarette packages. I also thing one should have the right to sue someone who subjects them to tobacco smoke. Smoke al you want, but do not pollute the ai I breathe. ****************************************** * This is the Spammish Inquisition * * Not Lumber Cartel Unit 75 [TINLC] * * http://bobcathoh.50megs.com/tinLC/ * * david l kayp at earthlink dot net * ****************************************** > > Chris Ness <mness215@comcast.net> wrote in news:htOdnUQlnZNh- > > qDYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > So dial 911 if you see a smoker walking down the street and what? Shoot him > if he won't put it out? Chris, While I agree with you about legislating morality and health, there's another, more pressing reason to avoid excessive legislation---unintended consequences. I live in Colorado, and can tell you the law doesn't work. There's a nearby bar/pool hall/lounge. We used to be able to comfortably walk by, as the smokers were all polluting each other's air. Now, they have to smoke outside, polluting the surrounding air and making smoke-sensitive folks walk far around. Let's let the business owners decide whether their bar, restaurant, casino, etc. should allow smoking. It's their property, and those who don't allow smoking can put up signs advertising a smoke-free environment. I seek out such places, and give my business to them instead of the mixed-environment places. Now the choice (in CO) has been turned over to the law. In other news, we have a referendum to allow possesion of less than an ounce of marijuana by an adult be legal, instead of a minor (like traffic ticket) offense. Less government, more freedom --- CSM SignatureBetsyB >> > Chris Ness <mness215@comcast.net> wrote in news:htOdnUQlnZNh- >> > qDYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > --- > CSM That law has been in effect for more than 20 years in AK. But they are nuts to begin with. Since in most communities it's against the law to call 911 for any non emergency, you might be the one getting the fine? To me, that is more than fair. I have spent 22 years volunteering medical assistance and 911 was a life saver in my opinion. The should set up another number. This is assinine on their part. SignatureBetsyB > http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52559 > > See a smoker call 911 |
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