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How Much Longer?

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Silverstar - 30 Sep 2006 03:58 GMT
Just a question here.. I realize no one has the answer but thought someone
might be able to give me a general idea.
An 18 year old girl, diagnosed with Stage 4 melanoma 18 months ago,
metastasized to liver, bone and now brain. In November of 2005 was told she
wouldn't make it to her high school graduation. She did. Was told 2 weeks
ago that time was short, 2 weeks at tops. Has had nothing but ice chips
every few hours for a week now, at home with family, resting without alot of
pain it seems. How much longer can this possibly go on?
Thanks.
Figgertoes - 30 Sep 2006 05:52 GMT
>. How much longer can this
> possibly go on?

Until she dies.
Silverstar - 30 Sep 2006 05:46 GMT
> >. How much longer can this
> > possibly go on?
>
> Until she dies.

like I said, I understand no one really can have an answer to this.. just
was hoping someone could give me an idea of how long she  could stay at this
stage. I didn't really need that kind of answer.. thanks anyway.
Rhonda
Silverstar - 30 Sep 2006 05:55 GMT
> > >. How much longer can this
> > > possibly go on?
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> stage. I didn't really need that kind of answer.. thanks anyway.
> Rhonda

I'm trying my best Figgertoes to help my teenager understand what is
happening to her friend and to help her to get through it. It has been a
long 18 months for all of these kids and at this point is just almost
unbearable for them. I'm sorry if I asked the wrong question in the wrong
place. Forgive my blunder.
R.
alex - 30 Sep 2006 06:32 GMT
Unfortunately, when people die before their time, they tend to hold out
longer. Some one this young has a strong heart and lungs. The usual signs of
pending death  aren't reliable predictors to begin with and are less
reliable in young adults.

Is there a grief counselor at your kid's school?  Sorry for your situation,
life is not fair, Alex
Silverstar - 30 Sep 2006 06:51 GMT
> Unfortunately, when people die before their time, they tend to hold out
> longer. Some one this young has a strong heart and lungs. The usual signs of
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> Is there a grief counselor at your kid's school?  Sorry for your situation,
> life is not fair, Alex

Thank you Alex... I had wondered if her youth was one of the things making
her hang on longer than anyone had anticipated. Yes, there are lots of
people for the kids to reach out to. Thanks for your reply.
R.
Figgertoes - 30 Sep 2006 15:50 GMT
>> > >. How much longer can this
>> > > possibly go on?
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> the wrong place. Forgive my blunder.
> R.

Hi, Rhonda,
When people die, they apparently work through many emotional, spiritual &
physical issues.  This precious girl may be doing intense work as she
appears to be simply lingering.  There are books your teenager & friends
may be interested in reading so they can learn more about the death
process as part of life.  A favorite book of this type is Final Gifts by
Maggie Callanan & Patricia Kelley. Its focus is on things a dying person
may say that make no apparent sense but reflect what's going on
internally with suggestions for helpful responses. It's an easy read with
short stories about different dying people.

Because of the brain involvement, your friend may not be verbal, but this
book could still offer insights.  You could look around where this one is
shelved for similar ones that might be appropriate or ask the librarian.  
My church bookstore has a whole shelf of books on this topic.  You may
not want anything too clinical (scary) for a teen, but sometimes
knowledge is more comforting than the fear of the unknown.

Hugs,
Fig
Backburner - 30 Sep 2006 17:47 GMT
I like Figgertoes answer.  As a hospice vigil volunteer I am sometimes
called to be a presence for a family when the time is growing short.
Generally when I am called the person is actively dying. I usually ask
the family is if there is someone the person needs to see and say good
bye even if non-verbal.  Sometimes it is that one person who visits and
then the person passes.  Just a thought.

Occasionally someone asks me how long it will be, and depending on what
I am seeing, the best I can offer is to say that time is short.
Sometimes hours and sometimes day remaining.  Life Figger said, the
person is doing work.  The hospice I volunteer for gives the family a
booklet, "Gone from my sight", which helps the family to understand
general syptoms and times.

In Peace,

> Just a question here.. I realize no one has the answer but thought someone
> might be able to give me a general idea.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> pain it seems. How much longer can this possibly go on?
> Thanks.
usenetgirl@gmail.com - 01 Oct 2006 16:58 GMT
Backburner I appauled your volunteerism. As a vigil volunteer you see
the difficult cases, Many people just pass on read the medscape
article. Alex
.
 
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