Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / September 2006
If you or someone you know is dealing with cancer, please read this story.
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SeniorARK - 03 Sep 2006 01:57 GMT Dear Friends, I invite you to read this remarkable story of hope. My 92 year old mother beat stage 4 cancer. Her gynecological oncologist at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center gave her no hope. Six months later he called her "MY miracle" to a group of his medical students. Ursula Fassbach's cancer was ovarian, liver, and more. But the information in her story, and another article I will tell you about, may apply to several other cancers. You will need to go to my Senior website, http://www.seniorark.com. It is not-for-profit, and no ads. I have created this large Senior site as
a labor of love. On the home page, click on the link in the right hand column that begins "AT 92 she..." to go directly to her story. Then go back to the home page and click on the link in the left hand column that begins with "Cancer?..." My site is absolutely free. I have nothing to sell. The site generates NO revenue. Anyone with cancer, or with a loved one who has cancer, MUST read these two items. I hope they will open up a whole new world of hope to you. If you have any problems reaching the site, or if you have additional questions, feel free to mail me at senior...@aol.com . I will respond as a special honor to my Mother. Best to all, Bob Fassbach, senior...@aol.com if you have comments or questions. Feel free.
alex - 03 Sep 2006 14:28 GMT Your site is really of value to all senior citizens has lots of great information for Senior living. Other than your mother, I didn't see much of a relationship to cancer.
J - 03 Sep 2006 18:47 GMT > Dear Friends, > I invite you to read this remarkable story of hope. My 92 year old [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > that begins with "Cancer?..." My site is absolutely free. I have > nothing to sell. The site generates NO revenue. Hello readers of alt.support.cancer. Bob's been posting here, from time to time, in the past year. He never replies to our comments/replies to his posts, but he probably reads them, because his "story" about his mother was hopelessly garbled (before) and he's since "clearned it up" We're taking his word that his mother had ovarian cancer - no proof biopsy or scans on his webpage); never posted here before for support. One of the things he attributes to his mother's "cure" is Resveratrol because her swollen stomach improved. That happens to be one of the signs of possible ovarian cancer; however she was also treated with carboplatin and germ cell cancers can respond very well to chemos....so there's no proof that Resveratrol played a role at all in his mother's "cure". God bless his well-meaning, but possibly misguided ideas about that.
There are/were two clinical trials.
This one's closed. Phase I - measuring for toxicity - 40 patients http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/CCUM-2004-0535
This one's expected enrollment 40 patients. Phase I/II "In this proposal, studies will be performed to define the actions of resveratrol on the Wnt signaling pathway in a clinical trial in which patients with colon cancer will receive treatment with resveratrol and correlative laboratory studies will examine its effects directly on colon cancer and normal colonic mucosa." <whatever that means> Still recruiting..in wine country...the product happens to come from grapes. http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00256334?order=1
So if you're interested and can't get to the clinical trial, have a glass of good quality wine, from time to time, if it does not disagree with your gastro or your oncologist's opinion, about that.. I can't promise it'll change anything re: your cancer (until the next sets of trial results, if they happen), but a little wine, from time to time, might improve your quality of life. J PS She passed away a ~year later. He says from stroke.
J - 03 Sep 2006 18:51 GMT > This one's expected enrollment 40 patients. > Phase I/II [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > grapes. > http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00256334?order=1 Correction: Enrollment 8 patients. J
usenetgirl@gmail.com - 04 Sep 2006 16:05 GMT > Hello readers of alt.support.cancer. > Bob's been posting here, from time to time, in the past year. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > We're taking his word that his mother had ovarian cancer - no proof biopsy > or scans on his webpage); Is that a new requirement? Proof of disease? That can be fabricated also.
> One of the things he attributes to his mother's "cure" is Resveratrol
> because her swollen stomach improved. > That happens to be one of the signs of possible ovarian cancer; however she > was also treated with carboplatin and germ cell cancers can respond very > well to chemos....so there's no proof that Resveratrol played a role at all > in his mother's "cure". God bless his well-meaning, but possibly misguided > ideas about that. You are absolutely correct...also at 92 his mother had a very strong constitution.
> So if you're interested and can't get to the clinical trial, have a glass > of good quality wine, from time to time, if it does not disagree with your > gastro or your oncologist's opinion, about that.. > I can't promise it'll change anything re: your cancer (until the next sets > of trial results, if they happen), but a little wine, from time to time, > might improve your quality of life. Only the Supreme being can make promises.
> J > PS She passed away a ~year later. He says from stroke. Yes, what does that have to do with anything? At that age death is normal. The page has great links and is a great resource for Seniors.
J - 04 Sep 2006 17:16 GMT > > Hello readers of alt.support.cancer. > > Bob's been posting here, from time to time, in the past year. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > One of the things he attributes to his mother's "cure" is > Resveratrol The point is he's been "spamming" Resveratrol here. J
46erjoe - 03 Sep 2006 22:04 GMT Just who do you think you're kidding?
You may not be making any money from your article, but you may be generating the false hope that Welch's grape juice will somehow perform a miracle in any cancer patient. You may also be pitching a bit of Christian faith... which is not bad, but at least be honest about it.
My own take is that this lady is one of those "fringe" cancer victims who somehow survive. There is always a very small percentage who will survive the worst diagnoses. My brother in law's brother is one such case. The oncs gave him no hope either. In fact they told the family to call their priest for the last rites. Well, the next day he got better, and the day after a little better yet. That was 20 years ago. Today he is cancer free. He was not given ANYTHING - no juice, no resveratrol, no royal jelly honey, NO NOTHING that could explain it.
I'm all for hope. God knows I need some myself from time to time (I have a terminal diagnosis), but let it be tempered with wisdom and common sense.
>Dear Friends, >I invite you to read this remarkable story of hope. My 92 year old [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Best to all, Bob Fassbach, senior...@aol.com if you have comments or >questions. Feel free. SeniorARK - 05 Sep 2006 19:06 GMT > Dear Friends, > I invite you to read this remarkable story of hope. My 92 year old [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Best to all, Bob Fassbach, senior...@aol.com if you have comments or > questions. Feel free. Well my my! I have never seen such a lively response to my posting. If you read the article carefully, you will see that I do not know what caused the cure. Like I said, the blind man said "All I know is I was blind, but now I see."
Why do I post my mother's story? I believe she would be proud that I am telling her story in an effort to give hope to others. She did that in life, and now I enable her to continue it in her story.
Follow the links at the end of her story. You will see studies everywhere on the efficacy of resveratrol on several types of cancer. This kind of treatment was slow to be studied because there is no great drug profit in it. I don't know if it would help me, but after watching my mother's illness, if I had cancer on a hangnail, I'd guzzle the stuff. Am I selling it. No. Would I use it----you bet.
A word of caution, a reader emailed me to say that her oncologist said resveratrol should not be tried if a woman's cancer is considered "estrogen sensitive". I have no idea what that is, but your oncologist will know.
Thanks for all your comments. I suspect you will see my post again in the future. As new folks need hope, I will try to supply a little bit of it. Best to all who are fighting the battle with cancer.
Bob Fassbach, editor, www.seniorark.com
J - 05 Sep 2006 20:02 GMT > <snipped> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "estrogen sensitive". I have no idea what that is, but your oncologist > will know. And you didn't say a word about that in your posts on the breast cancer newsgroup. So you're spreading dangerous "information".
Studies are useless here; there's thousands or hundreds of thousands of products, pharmaceuticals, foods, beverages that are in "studies" Human clinical trials (results) are the only helpful types of information welcome here. Phase III, unless someone specifically asks about a product or a clinical trial for their situation.
> Thanks for all your comments. I suspect you will see my post again in > the future. As new folks need hope, I will try to supply a little bit > of it. False hope is not welcome here: see above re: clinical trials. So, no thanks Bob, your posts are not welcome here. J
SeniorARK - 05 Sep 2006 22:10 GMT > > <snipped> > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > False hope is not welcome here: see above re: clinical trials. > So, no thanks Bob, your posts are not welcome here. J,
You are a very angry person, and you will miss a lot of truth in the world because you already have the answers. If you can't find value in the links I have suggested for the Natiional Institutes of Health, Sloan Kettering, and many others, then you are truly misguided by your anger. Your reaction to this is a mystery.
> J
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