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SeniorARK - 03 Sep 2006 01:57 GMT
Dear Friends,
I invite you to read this remarkable story of hope. My 92 year old
mother beat
stage 4 cancer. Her gynecological oncologist at the University of
Pittsburgh Medical Center gave her no hope. Six months later he called
her "MY miracle" to a group of his medical students.
Ursula Fassbach's cancer was ovarian, liver, and more. But  the
information in her story, and another article I will tell you about,
may apply to several other cancers.
You will need to go to my Senior website, http://www.seniorark.com. It
is not-for-profit, and no ads. I have created this large Senior site as

a labor of love. On the home page, click on the link in the right hand
column that begins "AT 92 she..." to go directly to her story. Then go
back to the home page and click on the link in the left hand column
that begins with "Cancer?..."   My site is absolutely free. I have
nothing to sell. The site generates NO revenue.
Anyone with cancer, or with a loved one who has cancer, MUST read
these two items. I hope they will open up a whole new world of hope to
you. If you have any problems reaching the site, or if you have
additional questions, feel free to mail me at senior...@aol.com . I
will respond as a special honor to my Mother.
Best to all, Bob Fassbach,   senior...@aol.com if you have comments or
questions. Feel free.
alex - 03 Sep 2006 14:28 GMT
Your site is really of value to all senior citizens has lots of great
information for Senior living.  Other than your mother, I didn't see much of
a relationship to cancer.
J - 03 Sep 2006 18:47 GMT
> Dear Friends,
> I invite you to read this remarkable story of hope. My 92 year old
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> that begins with "Cancer?..."   My site is absolutely free. I have
> nothing to sell. The site generates NO revenue.

Hello readers of alt.support.cancer.
Bob's been posting here, from time to time, in the past year.
He never replies to our comments/replies to his posts, but he probably
reads them, because his "story" about his mother was hopelessly garbled
(before) and he's since "clearned it up"
We're taking his word that his mother had ovarian cancer - no proof biopsy
or scans on his webpage); never posted here before for support.
One of the things he attributes to his mother's "cure" is Resveratrol
because her swollen stomach improved.
That happens to be one of the signs of possible ovarian cancer; however she
was also treated with carboplatin and germ cell cancers can respond very
well to chemos....so there's no proof that Resveratrol played a role at all
in his mother's "cure".  God bless his well-meaning, but possibly misguided
ideas about that.

There are/were two clinical trials.

This one's closed. Phase I - measuring for toxicity - 40 patients
http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/CCUM-2004-0535

This one's expected enrollment 40 patients.
Phase I/II
"In this proposal, studies will be performed to define the actions of
resveratrol on the Wnt signaling pathway in a clinical trial in which
patients with colon cancer will receive treatment with resveratrol and
correlative laboratory studies will examine its effects directly on colon
cancer and normal colonic mucosa."
<whatever that means>
Still recruiting..in wine country...the product happens to come from
grapes.
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00256334?order=1

So if you're interested and can't get to the clinical trial, have a glass
of good quality wine, from time to time, if it does not disagree with your
gastro or your oncologist's opinion, about that..
I can't promise it'll change anything re: your cancer (until the next sets
of trial results, if they happen), but a little wine, from time to time,
might improve your quality of life.
J
PS She passed away a ~year later. He says from stroke.
J - 03 Sep 2006 18:51 GMT
> This one's expected enrollment 40 patients.
> Phase I/II
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> grapes.
> http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00256334?order=1

Correction: Enrollment 8 patients.
J
usenetgirl@gmail.com - 04 Sep 2006 16:05 GMT
> Hello readers of alt.support.cancer.
> Bob's been posting here, from time to time, in the past year.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> We're taking his word that his mother had ovarian cancer - no proof biopsy
> or scans on his webpage);

Is that a new requirement? Proof of disease? That can be fabricated
also.
> One of the things he attributes to his mother's "cure" is
Resveratrol
> because her swollen stomach improved.
> That happens to be one of the signs of possible ovarian cancer; however she
> was also treated with carboplatin and germ cell cancers can respond very
> well to chemos....so there's no proof that Resveratrol played a role at all
> in his mother's "cure".  God bless his well-meaning, but possibly misguided
> ideas about that.

You are absolutely correct...also at 92 his mother had a very strong
constitution.

> So if you're interested and can't get to the clinical trial, have a glass
> of good quality wine, from time to time, if it does not disagree with your
> gastro or your oncologist's opinion, about that..
> I can't promise it'll change anything re: your cancer (until the next sets
> of trial results, if they happen), but a little wine, from time to time,
> might improve your quality of life.

Only the Supreme being can make promises.

> J
> PS She passed away a ~year later. He says from stroke.

Yes, what does that have to do with anything?  At that age death is
normal.
The page has great links and is a great resource for Seniors.
J - 04 Sep 2006 17:16 GMT
> > Hello readers of alt.support.cancer.
> > Bob's been posting here, from time to time, in the past year.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>  > One of the things he attributes to his mother's "cure" is
> Resveratrol

The point is he's been "spamming" Resveratrol here.
J
46erjoe - 03 Sep 2006 22:04 GMT
Just who do you think you're kidding?

You may not be making any money from your article, but you may be
generating the false hope that Welch's grape juice will somehow
perform a miracle in any cancer patient. You may also be pitching a
bit of Christian faith... which is not bad, but at least be honest
about it.

My own take is that this lady is one of those "fringe" cancer victims
who somehow survive. There is always a very small percentage who will
survive the worst diagnoses. My brother in law's brother  is one such
case. The oncs gave him no hope either. In fact they told the family
to call their priest for the last rites. Well, the next day he got
better, and the day after a little better yet. That was 20 years ago.
Today he is cancer free. He was not given ANYTHING - no juice, no
resveratrol, no royal jelly honey, NO NOTHING that could explain it.

I'm all for hope. God knows I need some myself from time to time (I
have a terminal diagnosis), but let it be tempered with wisdom and
common sense.

>Dear Friends,
>I invite you to read this remarkable story of hope. My 92 year old
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Best to all, Bob Fassbach,   senior...@aol.com if you have comments or
>questions. Feel free.
SeniorARK - 05 Sep 2006 19:06 GMT
> Dear Friends,
> I invite you to read this remarkable story of hope. My 92 year old
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Best to all, Bob Fassbach,   senior...@aol.com if you have comments or
> questions. Feel free.

Well my my! I have never seen such a lively response to my posting. If
you read the article carefully, you will see that I do not know what
caused the cure. Like I said, the blind man said "All I know is I was
blind, but now I see."

Why do I post my mother's story? I believe she would be proud that I am
telling her story in an effort to give hope to others. She did that in
life, and now I enable her to continue it in her story.

Follow the links at the end of her story. You will see studies
everywhere on the efficacy of resveratrol on several types of cancer.
This kind of treatment was slow to be studied because there is no great
drug profit in it. I don't know if it would help me, but after watching
my mother's illness, if I had cancer on a hangnail, I'd guzzle the
stuff. Am I selling it. No. Would I use it----you bet.

A word of caution, a reader emailed me to say that her oncologist said
resveratrol should not be tried if a woman's cancer is considered
"estrogen sensitive". I have no idea what that is, but your oncologist
will know.

Thanks for all your comments. I suspect you will see my post again in
the future. As new folks need hope, I will try to supply a little bit
of it. Best to all who are fighting the battle with cancer.

Bob Fassbach, editor, www.seniorark.com
J - 05 Sep 2006 20:02 GMT
> <snipped>
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> "estrogen sensitive". I have no idea what that is, but your oncologist
> will know.

And you didn't say a word about that in your posts on the breast cancer
newsgroup.
So you're spreading dangerous "information".

Studies are useless here; there's thousands or hundreds of thousands of
products, pharmaceuticals, foods, beverages that are in "studies"
Human clinical trials (results) are the only helpful types of information
welcome here. Phase III, unless someone specifically asks about a product or
a clinical trial for their situation.

> Thanks for all your comments. I suspect you will see my post again in
> the future. As new folks need hope, I will try to supply a little bit
> of it.

False hope is not welcome here: see above re: clinical trials.
So, no thanks Bob, your posts are not welcome here.
J
SeniorARK - 05 Sep 2006 22:10 GMT
> > <snipped>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> False hope is not welcome here: see above re: clinical trials.
> So, no thanks Bob, your posts are not welcome here.

J,

You are a very angry person, and you will miss a lot of truth in the
world because you already have the answers. If you can't find value in
the links I have suggested for the Natiional Institutes of Health,
Sloan Kettering, and many others, then you are truly misguided by your
anger. Your reaction to this is a mystery.
> J
 
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