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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / July 2006Scorpion Venom vs. Brain Tumor
A friend sent this link. Is it real or snake oil? <http://www.floridahospitalmedicalnews.com/news-Neurology-Neurosurgery-id131 .html> Bob  Signature*Why can't women leave the lid up? Bob in Carmel, CA SNAKE OIL DUH!!!! Come on Bob, you can do better than that. > A friend sent this link. Is it real or snake oil? > > <http://www.floridahospitalmedicalnews.com/news-Neurology-Neurosurgery-id131 > .html> > > Bob > SNAKE OIL DUH!!!! > > Come on Bob, you can do better than that. Bob may have this guy filtered (plonked). he comes in once in while to amuse us by dropping a turd. His email address is shown below if you want to set your filters. Some of you may have to leave the "name field" blank for the plonk to work. J Subject: Re: Scorpion Venom vs. Brain Tumor Date: 18 Jul 2006 13:39:17 -0700 From: "J" <burglar_of_turds@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer,sci.med.diseases.canc >> A friend sent this link. Is it real or snake oil? >> >> <http://www.floridahospitalmedicalnews.com/news-Neurology-Neurosurgery-id131 >> .html> > SNAKE OIL DUH!!!! > > Come on Bob, you can do better than that. Looks like it might be this -- http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00114309?order=1 Lizard Spit sounded like snake oil, too, but there really is a diabetes medication that came out of that! bj > >> A friend sent this link. Is it real or snake oil? > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > medication that came out of that! > bj Thanks. I wondered how they delver it. intracavitary Another webpage says they're using it for growth into the brain stem. "an area that the surgeons cant get to without killing the patient." Ingestion here http://www.tbts.org/itemDetail.asp?categoryID=444&itemID=18309 Scientists at the Transmolecular Corporation in Cambridge, Massachusetts created a radioactive version of this scorpion venom. Called TM-601, it contains an artificial version of the venom protein, attached to a radioactive substance called iodine-131 (I-131). When ingested, the compound attaches to the glioma cells, then the I-131 releases radiation that kills the cell. This compound has enabled an experimental treatment for high-grade gliomas, found in 17,000 people in the US every year and usually causing death in the first year of diagnosis. Patients would simply drink liquids containing the compound in an outpatient procedure, without needing chemotherapy or traditional radiotherapy. The first, early human trials of the venom therapy showed promising signs for treating the tumor and prolonging survival rates for patients. http://main.uab.edu/oadi/show.asp?durki=77788 In an earlier study involving just 18 patients, the company saw promising results, said Matthew A. Gonda, TransMolecular's chief executive officer. All the people in the study were in the worst-case scenario for brain cancer, with tumors that had grown back after having been removed by surgery. Patients with these recurring tumors typically live only four to six months, but those in the study survived for an average of 6.3 months. Five of the 18 patients lived longer than a year, and two have survived more than two years after getting the treatment. The study was too small to draw any conclusions about the therapy's effectiveness. Nevertheless, Gonda said one important thing to note is that the 18 patients received a single, small dose of the scorpion-based treatment. "We anticipate we'll be able to amplify the effect with higher doses," Gonda said, adding that patients did not report side effects from the treatment. >A friend sent this link. Is it real or snake oil? > > <http://www.floridahospitalmedicalnews.com/news-Neurology-Neurosurgery-id131 > .html> > > Bob Love the signature Bob, but do you really have to ask why! ;-) Alayne > > *Why can't women leave the lid up? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Alayne Just something men mutter under their breath from time to time. Signature*Why can't women leave the lid up? Bob in Carmel, CA >> > *Why can't women leave the lid up? >> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Just something men mutter under their breath from time to time. Shucks, and I thought muttering was how guys spoke all the time ;-) I always thought it was something to do with the male alter ego needing extra space (or is it merely a bad aim!) Alayne > I > always thought it was something to do with the male alter ego needing extra > space (or is it merely a bad aim!) > > Alayne Both Bob Signature*Why can't women leave the lid up? Bob in Carmel, CA > "Bob Allison" <hidden@somewhere.not> wrote... > > Love the signature Bob, but do you really have to ask why! ;-) Just after wife and I got married, we were standing next to the toilet, arguing about whether the seat should be prepositioned by the user to the desired position or always be returned to the ladies' position. Just then, Tigger the cat came up, put front paws on the rim and started drinking from the toilet. Problem solved! New rule: all users put the seat AND lid down after use. SignatureBritney Spears' Guide to Semiconductor Physics <http://britneyspears.ac/lasers.htm> > > "Bob Allison" <hidden@somewhere.not> wrote... > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > from the toilet. Problem solved! New rule: all users put the seat AND lid > down after use. I guess Tigger would rather drink loo water than die of thirst... Signaturemadiba >> Just after wife and I got married, we were standing next to the toilet, >> arguing about whether the seat should be prepositioned by the user to the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I guess Tigger would rather drink loo water than die of thirst... Now, now. We always kept a perfectly good, clean bowl of clear water by the food dishes. Tigger knew that; he was one of the bigger water drinkers among the cats we've had. In the instant case, he was just drinking out of the toilet because it was a nifty new source of water for him. He was also the all-time title holder for longest urination time. He would routinely pee for twice to three times as long as any other cat we've ever had. That's why it was easy to tell when he got a blockage, and before he got anywhere near uremia. SignatureBritney Spears' Guide to Semiconductor Physics <http://britneyspears.ac/lasers.htm> > Now, now. We always kept a perfectly good, clean bowl of clear water by > the food dishes. Tigger knew that; he was one of the bigger water drinkers [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > had. That's why it was easy to tell when he got a blockage, and before he > got anywhere near uremia. ROUND WATER!!! All cats seem to prefer water intended for other purposes rather than the water set out for them. We tend to keep the lids down on the loo, and figure that any thing we are drinking will probably get sampled by a cat if we leave it alone for more than a minute. Clifto, the gang at rec.pets.cats.anecdotes would get a kick out of your stories about Tigger. Pam S. > > Now, now. We always kept a perfectly good, clean bowl of clear water by > > the food dishes. Tigger knew that; he was one of the bigger water drinkers [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > minute. Clifto, the gang at rec.pets.cats.anecdotes would get a kick > out of your stories about Tigger. Ours would only drink water from a beaker on the window sill filled with lots of pebbles, the water tasted best when it was slightly green.. Signaturemadiba > Ours would only drink water from a beaker on the window sill filled with > lots of pebbles, the water tasted best when it was slightly green.. Ah yes, anywhere they're not supposed to. Me thinking back to them drinking out of an aquarium. And my glass. But their favorite of all, is a koolaid height container. They can sit while drinking... (and not have to bend over or crouch) J > Now, now. We always kept a perfectly good, clean bowl of clear water by > the food dishes. Tigger knew that; he was one of the bigger water drinkers > among the cats we've had. In the instant case, he was just drinking out of > the toilet because it was a nifty new source of water for him. I was thinking it might be the cold, same reason females don't want to fall in. :p > He was also the all-time title holder for longest urination time. He would > routinely pee for twice to three times as long as any other cat we've ever > had. That's why it was easy to tell when he got a blockage, and before he > got anywhere near uremia. A record of retention and/or peed like a racehorse eh? <g> J >>I guess Tigger would rather drink loo water than die of thirst... Springer spaniels also like to drink from toilets. Signature****************************************** * This is the Spammish Inquisition * * Not Lumber Cartel Unit 75 [TINLC] * * http://bobcathoh.50megs.com/tinLC/ * * david l kayp at earthlink dot net * ****************************************** |
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