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Everything's great, but I feel so hopeless.

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Ian Boys - 14 Jul 2006 17:34 GMT
Hi,

My darling wife was diagnosed with stomach cancer in Jan 2006 at the age of
46. They said it was inoperable (as so often it is with dammed disease) so
she has just finished six cycles of ECF. It was a bit of a "boot on the
other foot" thing as she's a chemotherapy specialist nurse but it all went
very well. Swallowing improved after the first cycle and the CT on after the
third showed not lymph nodes of mets on the diaphragm. Now her hair's
growing back, she's feeling great if a little tired and there are no signs
of symptoms of the disease at the moment. We are travelling to some
interesting far off places to see those friends, relatives and special
places that we should have seen more of over the years. All in all life is
pretty good.

The problem is that I have this feeling that we've fallen of the edge of the
world, treatment wise. To paraphrase the consultant, "go off and get sick
again". OK, OK, he said it much better than that, but that's what he meant.
We're due to see him again in a week or so and I know exactly how the
conversation will go. How are you feeling? OK. Good, see you later. I
suppose that's better than his number 2, he usually greets us with a "I
suppose you know more about this than I do", not great when all you want is
information. I'm sure that if there were anything that could be done he'd do
it and he's the top man in the area. I just feel so hopeless that there is
nothing active being done. I see her hair growing and it just reminds me
that the tumour is as well.

I think I just need cheering up. I just had to tell my youngest son that
some sort of calibration of his impending 17th birthday at home might be
nice as it may be the last one his mum can attend. I know kids don't think
of these things, but it hurts to remind them.

Ian
J - 15 Jul 2006 00:52 GMT
>  Swallowing improved after the first cycle and the CT on after the
> third showed not lymph nodes of mets on the diaphragm.

Hello Ian, Could you please reword this?  I'm unsure what you are saying.
Thank you.
J
J - 15 Jul 2006 01:11 GMT
>  {gentle snip..]  Now her hair's
> growing back, she's feeling great if a little tired and there are no signs
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> nice as it may be the last one his mum can attend. I know kids don't think
> of these things, but it hurts to remind them.

Hello Ian,
I'm sorry for what brings you here. I'm sorry to read about your wife's cancer.

All cancer newsgroup's are quiet these days. Must be the hols with kids at home
or people travelling or enjoying summer or enjoying the time left (whichever
applies to each).  I think that's your wife's oncologist's point. If cure isn't
possible, treat to symptoms and enjoy the time in between, as much as possible.
Penny's currently awaiting scan results regarding a new pain and may be around
to share her travels and adventures, after trying 2 or 3 lines of treatment.

Alayne and Emily are from across the pond. I'm hoping they'll drop in and have a
word with you.
I wish I could cheer you up, but don't know how in such a sad situation. I think
that travelling may be just what the doctor ordered, although along the way, I
think you'll no doubt, have some sad moments, wondering when the other shoe will
drop (spread or worsening of symptoms).  That is to be expected with such a
prognosis.

If you find you're having crying spells, headaches, trouble eating, sleeping,
please talk to your GP. A mild anti-depressant may be helpful for you. I've been
here for years and it's not unusual for husbands (or wives) to look for such to
help wth coping. Figgertoes may also be around to share how she coped as her
husband's cancer progressed.

Please stay with us and get to know the others, at least, until you start
travelling. Keep in touch and let us know how you're all doing. I can't reach
out and give you a hug, but please know that I care and so too probably many
others reading.
J
Ian Boys - 15 Jul 2006 10:34 GMT
> Swallowing improved after the first cycle and the CT on after the third
> showed not lymph nodes of mets on the diaphragm.

Let's rephrase that in English. Eating and swallowing improvd after the
first ECF cycle and the CT after the third cycle showed no lymph nodes
(there was at least one) and the mets on the diaphragm we not visible any
more.

Dyslexia rules KO

Ian
Pen - 15 Jul 2006 15:31 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Ian

Hi Ian,

I truly understand your feelings at the moment. After I was finished
treatment and was told to come back in 2 months, then again, come back
in 2 months, there was the feeling of hopelessness. This is it, this is
all that can be done so now I can go home and wait to die or I can go
home and live. I've been trying to do the living thing to the best of
my ability. It was easier when we were in the midst of fighting the
cancer that's for sure.

My heart goes out to you and your family!
Penny
http://pensclc.blogspot.com/
Ian Boys - 15 Jul 2006 17:42 GMT
> Hi Ian,
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Penny
> http://pensclc.blogspot.com/

Thanks Penny,
I suppose it's a case of is the glass half full or half empty? Well, tonight
at least, it's gonna be emptied a couple if times.

It's a funny thing, we're really the first of our peer group to go through
all this. While you think that you are "getting it right" outwardly, it's
good to have some of the inner feelings confirmed as not being crazy. You
are very right when you say that fighting it is the easy bit. At the end of
that active period, if you come out the other end feeling well, it's a
really daft time to let thoughts screw you up.

The other hard thing is, as the partner of a cancer sufferer, it's very
difficult to have problems/issues/whatever. Firstly they seem insignificant
compared to the cancer and secondly you don't want to worry anybody, least
of all your partner, about your problems.

I suppost that's what this place is all about.

Ian
Tanada - 16 Jul 2006 02:47 GMT
> The other hard thing is, as the partner of a cancer sufferer, it's very
> difficult to have problems/issues/whatever. Firstly they seem insignificant
> compared to the cancer and secondly you don't want to worry anybody, least
> of all your partner, about your problems.
>
> I suppost that's what this place is all about.

Amen to that Ian.  I'm the 51 year old wife of a 44 year old man with a
form of brain cancer.  We're in medical limbo.  Every three months or
so, I drive Rob to the hospital for an MRI and hope that nothing is
wrong.  Yet, if something were wrong, we'd have something to fight.
Sometimes I feel so helpless and like we're hanging off a cliff and
there is no net waiting below to catch us.

Like you, I feel guilty if I have a problem.  After all, I'm not the one
fighting for my life here.  Rob is taking it so well, so why am I
feeling as if I want to kick him in the butt?  There's a part of me that
screams, what about me?  I'm suffering here too.  But I know I'm not
suffering as much as Rob is.

Yet, I'm the one fighting with the bill collectors, the daughter's
school, my school and job, juggling finances, balancing diets, running
errands, being both parents and so forth.  And, yes, Rob is in good
shape, he's just doesn't have the short term memory, mental, and social
skills that he used to have.

On an update.  Last week Rob fell out of bed, whacked his head on a
stand and gave himself a mild concussion.  I'm threatening to stick him
in a hospital bed if he doesn't stop this.  It is the second time he's
fallen out of bed, though the first time he injured himself.  I'll
probably end up buying him bed rails instead.  They don't warn you about
these things.

Pam S. wondering what's next to deal with.
Pen - 16 Jul 2006 14:54 GMT
> > The other hard thing is, as the partner of a cancer sufferer, it's very
> > difficult to have problems/issues/whatever. Firstly they seem insignificant
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>
> Pam S. wondering what's next to deal with.

As the one with cancer here, I do know that I prefer my partner to
share his feelings and pains and concerns. The same goes for the rest
of my family. I'm not the only one in this and it sometimes helps to
take my mind off of my illness and put it to better use, helping
others. :-)

Believe me, no problem is trivial. They are all important and deserve
attention. I've told my kids to tell me their lifes wowes as that is
what I'm there for as their mom, to talk to and support them. They feel
like my illness should stop them from doing that but that's not the
case. I want them to continue to be my kids and me, their mom.

So maybe you do need to share some of the feelings and things going on,
even a little. If you can't share them with your spouse be sure to
share them with someone, don't hold them in.

hugs
Penny
Figgertoes - 16 Jul 2006 16:16 GMT
>> The other hard thing is, as the partner of a cancer sufferer, it's
>> very difficult to have problems/issues/whatever. Firstly they seem
>> insignificant compared to the cancer and secondly you don't want to
>> worry anybody, least of all your partner, about your problems.
>>
>> I suppost that's what this place is all about.

Ian, yes it is.  And there are issues other than cancer to be dealt with.  
When she feels up to it, why not let her help with some?  Might take her
mind off the cancer.

Pam, Rob's been sick for a long time.  I'm not quite sure of his present
state.  Would he be able to go visit a relative or friend for a few days to
a week to give you some alone-time (maybe send daughter with him or
somewhere else for the same time)?  That would give you a short break from
the day-to-day reponsibilities & maybe you could have some quality rest &
relaxation.  All care-givers deserve respite & you sound overdue, my
friend.

Our friends were always wanting to know what they could do & I had a hard
time thinking of anything, altho I'd get bone tired & frazzled at times.  
It always seemed I could fit things in &, especially since most friends
don't live very close, it seemed silly to ask them to run our errands. Some
did help with the chemo transportation so I could work.  If you have such
people nearby, maybe they could run the occasional errand. Might his
friends take him to a baseball game or something he enjoys & time it so you
can have the house to yourself?

> Like you, I feel guilty if I have a problem.  After all, I'm not the
> one fighting for my life here.  Rob is taking it so well, so why am I
> feeling as if I want to kick him in the butt?  There's a part of me
> that screams, what about me?  I'm suffering here too.  But I know I'm
> not suffering as much as Rob is.

Do you have a caregiver support group?  That helped me for awhile.  There
came a time, though, when I gave up a lot - including support group -  just
to have time for sleep.  

It's a hard line to walk.  I wanted Socks to know everything I did was out
of love & tried to minimize the stress & strain.  But sometimes it was just
too much. Socks liked for me to go out with my friends occasionally & that
did help. That & the social things we did together.  

One thing that helped was simplifying food.  And Socks liked to cook for
us, which was nice. Grilling is fast with minimal cleanup & we grill
vegetables as well as meat. We'd get a rotesserie chicken from which I
could make a huge variety of meals very quickly. I still do that - what a
time-saver & the meals can be very different.  Socks especially liked
enchiladas, so we'd have fun with an assembly line & have many meals in the
freezer.    

> Yet, I'm the one fighting with the bill collectors, the daughter's
> school, my school and job, juggling finances, balancing diets, running
> errands, being both parents and so forth.  And, yes, Rob is in good
> shape, he's just doesn't have the short term memory, mental, and
> social skills that he used to have.

Are there things he can do to help with the load?  I guess it depends upon
the person & current abilities.  Having responsibilitie & solving problems
actually helped Sock's outlook.  Otherwise, I think he would have felt
himself just a burden, useless. Sometimes just having him go through the
mail, open everything, put the 'to be paid' in a clip, periodicals at
chairside,  & throw out the obvious junk was a tremendous help. Then he
called the junk mail people & got off their lists. Yea!  The mail
overwhelms me. Could Rob handle things like that?  Or pack everyone's
lunch?  Or keep the trash emptied?  Make the phone calls where you're going
to be on 'hold' forever?  Socks drank tons of diet coke, so we made his job
to find out who had the best price that week.  Ditto milk & ice cream.  All
from Wednesday paper.

> On an update.  Last week Rob fell out of bed, whacked his head on a
> stand and gave himself a mild concussion.  I'm threatening to stick
> him in a hospital bed if he doesn't stop this.  It is the second time
> he's fallen out of bed, though the first time he injured himself.
> I'll probably end up buying him bed rails instead.  They don't warn
> you about these things.

Check with your insurance/doctor & see if either/both are covered.  He
might prefer to stay in a normal bed with the rails.  However, the
adjustable features of the hospital bed along with the 'sleep number' type
mattress were nice when the time came.  Still, Socks would want to come up
to our bedroom most nights & just use the hospital bed during the day.  You
can't have him hurting himself.  Would it work to temporarily turn around
head & foot to get his head away from stands?

You may have to let go of your housekeeping standards & get set up for
convenience.  I've never liked plastic glasses except for yard, but what a
difference it made when we got a huge stack of them for him & guests!  He
drank so much milk that we'd run out of glasses.  His aunt noticed/solved
that problem.  Just notice what sends you close to the edge & see if you
can think of a way to delegate/simplify/eliminate.

> Pam S. wondering what's next to deal with.

Hopefully, you'll have a quiet period, but you can always vent here!

(((Ian))) (((Pam)))
Fig, remembering how hard it sometimes was
Janet Wilder - 16 Jul 2006 22:06 GMT
>> The other hard thing is, as the partner of a cancer sufferer, it's
>> very difficult to have problems/issues/whatever. Firstly they seem
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Pam S. wondering what's next to deal with.

First, Pam, I'd find an agency that has emotional support for the
families of cancer patients. Try Cancer Care or the American Cancer
Society.

I've been on both sides. When I married DH 20+ years ago I knew he was
Diabetic and had had a double by-pass at age 40. He's chronically ill,
though he looks great and we both expend a lot of effort on keeping him
healthy. I lived through a second and third heart attack with him, a
"re-do" of the bypass surgery where they did three, a bout of
diverticulitis that had him in two hospitals and needing 6 pints of
blood, an arythmia that has him on warfarin and digoxin, as if he didn't
have enough problems.

There have been times when I wished he could eat stuff like "normal
people." I love to bake but baked goods aren't on his agenda so I bake
for our congregation when I can. I've learned how to cook low-carb,
low-fat and low-sodium. I've had to make changes in the amount of green
stuff we eat. I have never served myself one meal and him another. We
always eat the same and I eat what he can.

Every meal he eats, I calculate his carb content for him. I do this at
home and in restaurants. It took a lot of study to be able to learn the
carb contents of most foods. I did it because I love him.

Is it frustrating? You bet it is! I love this  man with all my heart and
would not hesitate to make further changes if I had to so that he could
be happy and healthy. Has his chronic illness been hard on me? Of
course! I wouldn't be honest if I didn't say it was a PITA to have to
lug his glucose meter in my purse. I used to lug the insulin kit but now
that he's on the pump, I only lug the emergency insulin pens when we are
going to be gone from home or the RV for a while.

We used to love hiking and taking long walks. We can't do that anymore
because he has congestive heart failure and can't negotiate any
inclines. At times, during our travels, he has sent me off to explore
and waited patiently for me to come back.

Now I have cancer. The world has turned upside down. He's been the
care-giver and I've been the sick one for the first time in our married
life. Even with my being sick, I still worry about his health and make
sure he's getting the proper foods.

I count his carbs and check his log book. He holds me and comforts me.
He rubs my back and brings me a tissue when I cry. I find myself
apologizing to him for getting sick and he looks at me, incredulous, and
says: "you have always taken such good care of me, I am honored to be
able to return that care to you."

Janet

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Ian Boys - 17 Jul 2006 09:24 GMT
> I've been on both sides. When I married DH 20+ years ago I knew he was
> Diabetic and had had a double by-pass at age 40. He's chronically ill,
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> Janet

Janet,
While we never want to be a burden to our friends and loved ones, that's
what they're here for, isn't it? I'm absolutely sure DH feels he's just
putting back a fraction of the love that you have shown to him. It's a funny
thing, while we would so often be the first ones to step up to the breach,
when others do it for us we are embarrassed.

By the way, my wife is also diabetic, thankfully well controlled, except
after the chemo steroids. Wow they play havoc.

Ian
Viviane - 17 Jul 2006 10:53 GMT
It's so true - we don't want to be a burden.  I am the one in our family who
has been diagnosed with cancer (papillary thyroid).  It's been really hard
explaining all this to my 8 year old whose only knowledge of cancer to date
was a friend dying very young (27).  And I'm one of the lucky ones as
thyroid cancer has excellent cure rate and I don't have to go thro chemo.  I
feel for those of you battling a stronger enemy.

Ian - feel free to vent and rage as that what these ngs are for.  If we
can't answer the questions, we can be a cyber shoulder to cry on.  Good
luck.

>> I've been on both sides. When I married DH 20+ years ago I knew he was
>> Diabetic and had had a double by-pass at age 40. He's chronically ill,
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>
> Ian
Emily - 17 Jul 2006 14:33 GMT
bharking@nospam.bigpond.net.au said...
> Ian - feel free to vent and rage as that what these ngs are for.  If we
> can't answer the questions, we can be a cyber shoulder to cry on.  Good
> luck.

Coming to this a tad late (sorry folks, I've been off gallivanting for a
couple of days <g>) - absolutely.  I post in various NGs, and I reckon
I've made some much better friends from Usenet than I have in what we
laughingly refer to as 'real life'.

BTW Ian, remember what you were saying about the 'you know more about
this than I do' chappie?  He's probably nervous about dealing with a
fellow professional, or just doesn't want to seem patronising giving
your wife information she probably gives to others on a regular basis.  
And of course, in a absolute sense, your wife probably DOES know more
than he does.  What she doesn't know, and needs to know, is how it all
relates to her personal situation.  The man clearly hasn't realised that
there's a big difference between being a cancer specialist and dealing
with it in oneself.  He could do with being told, if you ever feel up to
it...

Hugs from Wales
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Ian Boys - 17 Jul 2006 15:45 GMT
> bharking@nospam.bigpond.net.au said...
>> Ian - feel free to vent and rage as that what these ngs are for.  If we
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Hugs from Wales

Thanks Em,
I can see a little bit of Wales (on a clear day) from my garden looking
across the Bristol Channel.

We actually call him Dr. There There, as it seems that that is his main job.
I'm not so sure that the odd "miracle" that he recounts really helps a lot.
Those old miracles seem to few and far between to be a realistic option.
Fortunately if anything important comes up he is happy to call in the boss.
It's really strange, even knowing that my wife's an oncology sister we've
still been told some utter BS. To be told neo-adjuvant on the Friday and
palliative on Monday serves no good at all.

It's a funny thing, you may spend years giving out health advice but when it
comes to you and your own it's strangely difficult to turn it back on
yourself. What seems obvious to you when it's your patient is far from
obvious when it's yourself.

I have to say that it's better coming at this from a position of knowledge
than ignorance (maybe it's only bliss when you are there?), if only because
you can go into work and scrounge the odd dressing or long tube for your
PICC line when you know that the line care nurses never have the right ones.
Occasionally it's even a little amusing. When my wife asked a nurse to do
something when she was getting her chemo, the nurse said that she didn't
know if she could as she wasn't one of the chemo nurses. That's OK my wife
said, I am.

Ian
Emily - 18 Jul 2006 01:11 GMT
NotGiven@BTInternet.com said...
> > bharking@nospam.bigpond.net.au said...
> >> Ian - feel free to vent and rage as that what these ngs are for.  If we
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I can see a little bit of Wales (on a clear day) from my garden looking
> across the Bristol Channel.

Not so far from here (couple of miles along and about a third of that
vertically) is a spot (Y Werfa) from where we can see Exmoor on the
horizon.  Looking back from Porlock was interesting - we could see the
lights of (presumably) Port Talbot, and wondered why on earth no one had
had the foresight to run a car ferry 'twixt south Wales and the north
Devon coast.  If I had the money I'd set it up myself...

> We actually call him Dr. There There, as it seems that that is his main job.
> I'm not so sure that the odd "miracle" that he recounts really helps a lot.

Sounds almost patronising, TBH.

> Those old miracles seem to few and far between to be a realistic option.

The very definition of a miracle is that it's a one-off or at least a
not-very-many off occurrance, so you wouldn't expect a plethora of them.

> Fortunately if anything important comes up he is happy to call in the boss.
> It's really strange, even knowing that my wife's an oncology sister we've
> still been told some utter BS. To be told neo-adjuvant on the Friday and
> palliative on Monday serves no good at all.

That sounds confusing and therefore daft.

> It's a funny thing, you may spend years giving out health advice but when it
> comes to you and your own it's strangely difficult to turn it back on
> yourself. What seems obvious to you when it's your patient is far from
> obvious when it's yourself.

You know that and I know that, and your wife knows that.  What a pity
the consultants don't seem to know that.  Tell you what though, your
wife's going to be one heck of a nurse if she gets back to work - she'll
be able to translate the c**p spouted by the doctors *and* she'll be
able to tell the patients what questions to ask, and how to ask them.

> I have to say that it's better coming at this from a position of knowledge
> than ignorance (maybe it's only bliss when you are there?), if only because
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> know if she could as she wasn't one of the chemo nurses. That's OK my wife
> said, I am.

<g>  A medical friend of mine can also tell tales of stupid attitudes of
professionals towards dealing with fellow professionals.  My friend (an
A & E consultant) has MS.  The nurses are great; the doctors are either
technical to the point of 'missing' the person my friend is, or just too
patronising for words.  Seems to me that a health professional is
probably better off keeping quiet about his or her profession, and
getting treatment elsewhere.

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Ian Boys - 18 Jul 2006 08:14 GMT
"Emily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> Tell you what though, your wife's going to be one heck of a nurse if she
> gets back to work - she'll > be able to translate the c**p spouted by the
> doctors *and* she'll be
> able to tell the patients what questions to ask, and how to ask them.

Life's too short, literally, for her to go back to work. That's the trouble
with stomach cancer, it's almost always too late when it's diagnosed. We're
lucky, she doesn't need to work now. We're into memories/good time
accumulation.

Ian
Emily - 18 Jul 2006 18:56 GMT
NotGiven@BTInternet.com said...
> "Emily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > Tell you what though, your wife's going to be one heck of a nurse if she
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> lucky, she doesn't need to work now. We're into memories/good time
> accumulation.

Enjoy what you've got while you've got it then, and to heck with 'em.  
Take that dream holiday you've always wanted - and make sure it's good
:-)

Have some more hugs
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Ian Boys - 19 Jul 2006 08:16 GMT
"Emily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> Enjoy what you've got while you've got it then, and to heck with 'em.
> Take that dream holiday you've always wanted - and make sure it's good
> :-)
>
> Have some more hugs

Em,
That's all planned. Just been to Lithuania (it's a long story), off to The
Vendee in France with the kids and friends in August, St Lucia in September
and off to see our oldest friend in South Africa in December - God willing.
The St Lucia trip was blown away in March what with the chemo and all that.
I was so proud of my 138,000 supermarket loyalty points that paid for the
trip, but poof, it all disappeared. Travel insurance is interesting to
arrange. We decided that last minute was to order of the day, we'll either
get good deals or not, but planning ahead more than the concept is not easy.

Ian
Emily - 20 Jul 2006 23:33 GMT
NotGiven@BTInternet.com said...

> "Emily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > Enjoy what you've got while you've got it then, and to heck with 'em.
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> The St Lucia trip was blown away in March what with the chemo and all that.
> I was so proud of my 138,000 supermarket loyalty points

That's a LOT of groceries!

> that paid for the
> trip, but poof, it all disappeared.

Were you able to claim on any insurance for that?

> Travel insurance is interesting to
> arrange.

I'll bet it is.  "Do you now or have you ever suffered from...?"  "Yes"  
"Sorry, we are unable to help you..."

> We decided that last minute was the order of the day, we'll either
> get good deals or not, but planning ahead more than the concept is not easy.

I understand.
Ian Boys - 21 Jul 2006 08:38 GMT
>> I was so proud of my 138,000 supermarket loyalty points
>
> That's a LOT of groceries!

It was a lot of years.

>> that paid for the
>> trip, but poof, it all disappeared.
>
> Were you able to claim on any insurance for that?

No, the old travel insurance expired about the time of diagnosis and I'm not
sure if they covered Nectar points anyway.

>> Travel insurance is interesting to
>> arrange.
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>>
> I understand.
Figgertoes - 21 Jul 2006 14:54 GMT
> "Emily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> Enjoy what you've got while you've got it then, and to heck with 'em.
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>
> Ian

Ian,

We never put it to the test, but our travel insurance covered pre-
existing conditions & cancellations due to illness caused by same or
other - if insurance was purchased close to time of booking of 1st
covered purchase (usually airfare).  One insurance required within 3
days; the other within 1 week.  We did collect on stolen digital camera
with very little trouble.  We book our travel insurance online.

We used Travel Guard except for one time when they wouldn't cover United
Airlines because they were in bankruptcy.  Another did cover.Don't know
about Nectar points, but they'd probably be like frequent flyer miles &
there's probably a provision for that.

Fig
Emily - 22 Jul 2006 00:16 GMT
me@privacy.net said...
> Don't know
> about Nectar points, but they'd probably be like frequent flyer miles &
> there's probably a provision for that.

Sainsbury's, I think.  Big 'high street' supermarket with a loyalty
scheme.  As with many of such things they are in partnership with other
companies (or they may all be part of the same group, who knows these
days?) and loyalty points can be saved up and used against purchases of
things from the originating store or others within the participating
group.  Some of those participating are travel agents or airlines.  
Typically, the going rate is a point per pound spent or somesuch, so to
qualify for a biiig holiday you'd need to have parted company with quite
a lot of money in order to gain the necessary number of points.  That's
a lot of breakfast cereal and toilet rolls.

Of course, if you already knew that, then feel free to return to your
homes, nothing to see here, as you were, do not adjust your set.  Yet.

Signature

Em, wibbling.

Ian Boys - 17 Jul 2006 10:42 GMT
> Hello Ian,
>
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>
> Alayne
Alayne,
Thanks for the advice about Macmillan. At the moment, to use a painkiller
analogy, I'm in need of an Aspirin, I think that Iwill leave to stronger
stuff until a little later. At the moment things are so well that I wouldn't
want anything to get in the way of normality.

Ian
Ian Boys - 17 Jul 2006 10:45 GMT
> I've been on both sides. When I married DH 20+ years ago I knew he was
> Diabetic and had had a double by-pass at age 40. He's chronically ill,
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>
> Janet

Janet,
While we never want to be a burden to our friends and loved ones, that's
what they're here for, isn't it? I'm absolutely sure DH feels he's just
putting back a fraction of the love that you have shown to him. It's a funny
thing, while we would so often be the first ones to step up to the breach,
when others do it for us we are embarrassed.

By the way, my wife is also diabetic, thankfully well controlled, except
after the chemo steroids. Wow they play havoc.

Ian
Maria - 19 Jul 2006 19:38 GMT
Hi Ian... I am a cancer patient.  The tendency of most caregivers is to
feel guilty when they start to worry of things other than cancer (the
thinking being, everything else pales in comparison with cancer).  I
don't agree that this should be so.  Sure, cancer is a big thing, but
you shoulld not trivialize all the other concerns and challeges that
you face as a human being... As a cancer patient, I know for sure that
I don't want my daughters' petty challenges at school be left to the
sidelines just because I am dealing with cancer, and they need to join
me with that fight.  My husband also has his share of woes at work, and
I listen to him and I never trivialize his concerns just because
they're "insignificant" compared to cancer... They're not
"insignificant", just different.  ANd life, with or without cancer, is
all about dealing with these challenges and overcoming them.

Maria

> > Hi Ian,
> >
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>
> Ian
Alayne - 17 Jul 2006 08:30 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Ian

Hello Ian,

I am so sorry that you have had cause to come to this newsgroup but know now
that you are among "friends".

Dealing with cancer, either as the patient or the caregiver is like riding a
rollercoaster as far as emotions are concerned.  I was the caregiver for my
husband Tony, who was diagnosed with a GBM4 (brain tumour) back in Oct 02 so
I do understand some of the feelings that you will go through.

Everyone is different but from my experience I found that sharing my woes
with those that had been through similar was very helpful because I didn't
want to discuss my negative feelings with Tony.  Have you been put in touch
with Macmillan??  These truly are wonderful people and will encompass the
whole family.  I think you can get a referral via your GP or some hospitals
now have a cancer support outlet at the local hospital (I know Addenbrookes
do now).  Talking things through really does help lift the load.

When Tony was first diagnosed a GBM is classed as a 4, so we knew that we
were in for a rough ride.  Once the numbness wore off we sat down and
decided that we would try our damndest to live life as "normal" as possible,
we wouldn't let it get to us (very easy to say on reflection); if the cancer
was going to take him, it wasn't going to do so right from the first day.
We, as much as possible, carried on our lives, we took stock of what we had
and had little time for regrets.  My girls were 8 and 11 at the time of
diagnosis and I am sure our openness and honesty throughout helped their
ride easier to bear too.

I wish you and your family well and send comforting Hugs.

Alayne
Ian Boys - 17 Jul 2006 09:12 GMT
> Hello Ian,
>
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>
> Alayne
Alayne,
Thanks for the advice about Macmillan. At the moment, to use a painkiller
analogy, I'm in need of an Aspirin, I think that Iwill leave to stronger
stuff until a little later. At the moment things are so well that I wouldn't
want anything to get in the way of normality.

Ian


Alayne - 17 Jul 2006 16:43 GMT
>> Hello Ian,
>>
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>offered a week's respite at the local hospice and they are absolute angels
>there.  Other services included the day centre and massage therapy.

Aspirins are good but ibuprofen work too ;-)

Hugs

Alayne
 
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