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cancer patients and/or loved ones - blocking...
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J - 06 Mar 2006 11:26 GMT Hello readers of alt.support.cancer
Last December one troll posted "George Orwell" He asked a "what is this - does it sound like cancer" ( type question) and one of the regulars did not notice his headers. (which says "dizum" in it). Dizum is a newserver that trolls often use.
Around the same time, a female posted that she had cancer, also with "dizum" in it. If I recall, I replied to her, maybe others did too. I don't know if she was a troll (or not) and have lost her post.
Around the same time, "Twisty Creek" posted, showed "anonymous remailer" in the headers.. Everyone ignored it. I call them "its" because they could be male or female. I've just replied to someone called "Hidden Identity" (Singapore) - may or may not be a troll. 'Nomen Nescio" and "George Orwell" obviously have a vendetta against maryanne. One or both have posted their garbage posts to numerous newsgroups, for years (about maryanne) including troll and "anon" newsgroups. So God only knows who else (troll) could show up on (target) this newsgroup.
For now, the following are the 3 to ignore. if you can filter posters, instructions are here http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/killfilefaqhtm.htm
I'm showing you their info (below) in case you can copy and paste that into your filter definitions, in your newsreader. Some of you know the shortcuts to "plonk" a poster (with your newsreader). I can filter just on the name (no email address required), but it has to be copied exactly, as below. Some newsreaders software may require both the posting name and the posting email address. Google readers/posters - if you want to see headers of questionable posts, click on "Show Options", then select "show original". There's a way to do such in Outlook as well.
Nomen Nescio nobody@dizum.com Hidden Identity hidden@dragon.com Twisty Creek anon@comments.header
Most newsreader filters, can filter words in the body of the text, of a message. I've posted a place where maryanne can get support. Hopefully she's doing so.
So I would suggest (until these trolls understand that maryanne's not here anymore and that we're not interested in what they have to write), that you also filter
maryanne and kehoe
So (by filtering) those could (potentially) automatically "block" (delete or mark as read) any posts, that any troll may come here to post about maryanne. If a new maryanne shows up, I'll ask such person to change their screen name.
You're all doing real good at not replying to those posts. I know some of you cannot "block" posts. Pretend you can.
The most important thing is to continue posting here, if you're a cancer patient (or loved one). Otherwise, if you don't, it will end up just trolls posting. Just "walk around" them (ignore their posts), just as you would walk around someone unsavoury on the sidewalk, out there in real life. But do post, otherwise they've achieved what they hope to accomplish. Just ignore (or block) the questionable posts.
J
Araik Margarian - 06 Mar 2006 13:08 GMT ---- Original Message ---- From: "J" <studras@anon.inv> Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:26 AM Subject: cancer patients and/or loved ones - blocking...
> Hello readers of alt.support.cancer > [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > J Though I almost adore George Orwell and talked of him\his writings in my essays and AOL Journal, I never posted on his nor by other name, except my most adorable name - "Araik Margarian". It is so miserable that even such newsgroups used for silly/ trolling/scaming/inhuman purposes.
Regards, Araik Margarian. http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
J - 07 Mar 2006 00:25 GMT > Though I almost adore George Orwell and talked of him\his writings in my > essays and AOL Journal, I saw that Araik. I was reading your webpage earlier.
> I never posted on his nor by other name, except my most adorable name - > "Araik Margarian". Your most adorable name. <smile> well it's certainly interesting and unique.
> It is so miserable that even such newsgroups used for silly/ > trolling/scaming/inhuman purposes. Some people consider newsgroups as entertainment, a pastime.
> Regards, > Araik Margarian. > http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/ Who's in the picture on your webpage? Good to hear from you, Araik. :) J
maryanne kehoe - 08 Mar 2006 06:14 GMT Hi J....
I just got back last night, was out of town for a meeting in Philly. You referenced the Dizum account/address and that is what I posted to in an earlier post.
(I am thisclose to getting a court order in the Netherlands to force Dizum to turn over any and all info as to who is posting thru that account. I can't say too much here but I can mention that.)
OK, off to catch up on the postings, have a great week everyone!
((((HUGS))))
Maryanne
Araik Margarian - 12 Mar 2006 22:39 GMT >> Though I almost adore George Orwell and talked of him\his writings >> in my essays and AOL Journal, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Some people consider newsgroups as entertainment, a pastime. I posted a year ago this quatrain on a poetry ng that may be suit here too:
Epigram
Real life versus virtual reality Or street talk versus useless Usenet: In both, some people yearn for humanity, Some others use it as sewage.
> Who's in the picture on your webpage? > Good to hear from you, Araik. :) > J Of course me; If I am not mistaken, it was my Green Card photo, 2 year ago. I didn't have other better photo or got lazy to make and download one. I even can't explain why I download that one either :)
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
clifto - 12 Mar 2006 23:20 GMT >> Some people consider newsgroups as entertainment, a pastime. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > In both, some people yearn for humanity, > Some others use it as sewage. Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it.
Gene Spafford, rec.humor.funny, March 9, 1993
One *can* use Usenet as a source of good information. It's a matter of knowing the participants, and knowing how to verify facts.
 Signature All relevant people are pertinent. All rude people are impertinent. Therefore, no rude people are relevant. -- Solomon W. Golomb
Araik Margarian - 13 Mar 2006 04:21 GMT >>> Some people consider newsgroups as entertainment, a pastime. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Gene Spafford, rec.humor.funny, March 9, 1993 The date amaze me - 1993: Wasn't that the era of internet innocence?
> One *can* use Usenet as a source of good information. It's a matter of > knowing the participants, and knowing how to verify facts. Sure. How are you? I'll post soon about my post-treatment mucosities battles.
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
clifto - 13 Mar 2006 20:46 GMT > Sure. How are you? I'll post soon about my post-treatment mucosities > battles. I'm well. Think "club soda".
 Signature All relevant people are pertinent. All rude people are impertinent. Therefore, no rude people are relevant. -- Solomon W. Golomb
Araik Margarian - 13 Mar 2006 21:33 GMT >> Sure. How are you? I'll post soon about my post-treatment mucosities >> battles. > > I'm well. Think "club soda". I started it already after J's post. Thanks!
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
J - 14 Mar 2006 13:13 GMT > "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message > > I'm well. Think "club soda". > > I started it already after J's post. Thanks! peeking in, eh? Are your eyes brown? me - curious
Araik Margarian - 15 Mar 2006 05:00 GMT >> "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> I'm well. Think "club soda". [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Are your eyes brown? > me - curious 1. Not mind to peek peekable things, but it was simply your response to me. 2. About eyes: a. From my photo on my AOL Journal it's not hard to guess that my eyes are brown. b. Or I can guess you are told by the Invisibile Hand people from my Journal that my eyes are brown. c. After all, my eyes brown or dark. But what has to do it with these posts? d. I can guess that it has some second meaning in English? Brown eyes people like to peek? Has your curiousity satisfied?
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
J - 15 Mar 2006 10:31 GMT > 2. About eyes: > a. From my photo on my AOL Journal it's not hard to guess that my eyes are > brown. Is for me, but the enlargement tells me that must use certain browsers for best view of AOL photos and mine's not included, in their list.
> c. After all, my eyes brown or dark.
> But what has to do it with these posts? nothing - see below
> Has your curiousity satisfied? Yes, thanks. I meant to tell you to hold onto hope (that your cancer has been cured). J
Araik Margarian - 16 Mar 2006 00:11 GMT >> 2. About eyes: >> a. From my photo on my AOL Journal it's not hard to guess that my >> eyes are brown. Dear J, the previous my message was all joke from start to end. I didn't put :) signs anywhere. Alas, my English is still not so powerful to joke without neccesity to caution ":)" that it is mere joke. Second, may be it was not enough humorous too; And that's me who is mumbling in my mind these days to write some day astonishing novel of XXI century by the name "G-Tube Restaurant". :)
> Is for me, but the enlargement tells me that must use certain > browsers for best view of AOL photos and mine's not included, in > their list. Actually it's so combersome anything that you want to do on AOL. I could not align the photo well, I could not see anything when you click on it as if to enlarge. If not inertia, I would change the AOL long ago.
>> c. After all, my eyes brown or dark. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I meant to tell you to hold onto hope (that your cancer has been > cured). Hugs, dear J. ((((J))))). You may be one of my invisible angel of kindness. Though didn't get again the connection with eye color :) What about the hope, "wait and see", I learned that long-long ago, when I was child. What we learned in schools - Forget about enough food and cloths. We are building communism and then, O, then! And many of the people who passed through the Soviet ideology, intuitively thought "Today is not important; tomorrow will be better". So if not anything else, my hope, my endurance first of all may come from that, who knows. I learned in these groups the other way : "One day at a time". Now I think that's the only way to walk through this all. Thank God every day; almost every day; as sometimes you can't keep your emotions and cry "why me? why me?"; "Isn't it enough?" Then, a little bit good news or feeling or more hope and again blessing the whole World.
> J
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
J - 16 Mar 2006 11:14 GMT > Dear J, the previous my message was all joke from start to end. > I didn't put :) signs anywhere. Alas, my English is still not so powerful [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Hugs, dear J. ((((J))))). You may be one of my invisible angel of kindness. > Though didn't get again the connection with eye color :) Wow, I feel good. I just got lots of hugs from Araik. Thank you. And thanks for explaining (above). Now about the brown eyes. I had seen your photo. It's in black and white and greys. So later, when I was thinking about you, I saw (in my mind) brown eyes. So when I was replying to one of your posts, I was going to write "hello, brown eyes", but then I looked again at the photo (to doublecheck) and thought "where did I get brown eyes from ?" I don't know, so I asked you, because it's not clear to me, when I look at your photo. So now I can call you brown eyes? :)
pssssst...<I think we're both losing it...mumbling> :)
> What about the hope, "wait and see", I learned that long-long ago, when I > was child. > What we learned in schools - Forget about enough food and cloths. We are > building communism and then, O, then! > And many of the people who passed through the Soviet ideology, intuitively > thought "Today is not important; tomorrow will be better". I hear what you are saying but you understand that we (most of us) did not have to live this way? So thanks for sharing.
> So if not anything else, my hope, my endurance first of all may come from > that, who knows. I learned in these groups the other way : "One day at a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "why me? why me?"; "Isn't it enough?" Then, a little bit good news or > feeling or more hope and again blessing the whole World. A roller-coaster of emotions... One day at a time, one foot in front of the other. ( ( ( Araik ) ) ) J - here's to better tomorrows
Araik Margarian - 17 Mar 2006 08:20 GMT >> Dear J, the previous my message was all joke from start to end. >> I didn't put :) signs anywhere. Alas, my English is still not so [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > So later, when I was thinking about you, I saw (in my mind) brown > eyes. You see, when I think about you, I can see (in my mind) only spirit.
> So when I was replying to one of your posts, I was going to write > "hello, brown eyes", but then I looked again at the photo (to > doublecheck) and thought "where did I get brown eyes from ?" I don't > know, so I asked you, because it's not clear to me, when I look at > your photo. So now I can call you brown eyes? :) Please not. It somehow associated me "if it is brown -flush it to down" and "brown eyes - smart eyes -smart a.s." Why simple "Araik" is not enough? I use easily simple "J", right?
> pssssst...<I think we're both losing it...mumbling> :) Sleepeness, loneleness, pain medication ... mumbling and fooling around sometimes... may be part of healing?
>> What about the hope, "wait and see", I learned that long-long ago, >> when I was child. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > did not have to live this way? > So thanks for sharing. I know, just see my last paragraph., - Slepeness... et.c.
>> So if not anything else, my hope, my endurance first of all may come >> from that, who knows. I learned in these groups the other way : "One [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > ( ( ( Araik ) ) ) > J - here's to better tomorrows And ... to better todays.
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
J - 17 Mar 2006 19:26 GMT > Please not. It somehow associated me "if it is brown -flush it to down" > and "brown eyes - smart eyes -smart a.s." Why simple "Araik" is not enough? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > And ... to better todays. Here's to better todays, Araik. J
clifto - 18 Mar 2006 00:21 GMT >> Hugs, dear J. ((((J))))). You may be one of my invisible angel of kindness. >> Though didn't get again the connection with eye color :) > > Now about the brown eyes. I had seen your photo. It's in black and white and greys. > So later, when I was thinking about you, I saw (in my mind) brown eyes. I quit trying to picture people on line back in the eighties when I attended one of the early "CB parties". I went to Baltimore to meet other people I talked to on the Compuserve CB simulator. Very few had any slight resemblance to my mental pictures of them.
 Signature All relevant people are pertinent. All rude people are impertinent. Therefore, no rude people are relevant. -- Solomon W. Golomb
alex - 18 Mar 2006 03:44 GMT > I quit trying to picture people on line back in the eighties when I > attended one of the early "CB parties". I went to Baltimore to meet > other people I talked to on the Compuserve CB simulator. Very few > had any slight resemblance to my mental pictures of them. CompuServe, wow you are bringing back memories, if my memory serves me correctly, I would connect at 28.8 at $6/hour. Alex
clifto - 18 Mar 2006 21:35 GMT >> I quit trying to picture people on line back in the eighties when I >> attended one of the early "CB parties". I went to Baltimore to meet [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > CompuServe, wow you are bringing back memories, if my memory serves me > correctly, I would connect at 28.8 at $6/hour. This was long before that. 300 baud was $5 per hour and 1200 baud was $12.50 per hour.
 Signature All relevant people are pertinent. All rude people are impertinent. Therefore, no rude people are relevant. -- Solomon W. Golomb
Araik Margarian - 19 Mar 2006 00:55 GMT >>> I quit trying to picture people on line back in the eighties when I >>> attended one of the early "CB parties". I went to Baltimore to meet [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > This was long before that. 300 baud was $5 per hour and 1200 baud > was $12.50 per hour. What years you are talking about? I remember, when I came to this country, my friend, who was such a guru that Microsoft later "abducted" him, helped me connect throw something called "Argus" BBS, which then changed to Channel1 provider, for $5 a month, I had 14,4 connection (or 7 something may be if I have not forget), it was in the midlde of 1994. It was like miracle for me when I could send and receive emails with my old workplace in Yerevan in 1995.
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
clifto - 20 Mar 2006 02:09 GMT > "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote... >> This was long before that. 300 baud was $5 per hour and 1200 baud >> was $12.50 per hour. >> > What years you are talking about? 1984 or thereabouts.
 Signature All relevant people are pertinent. All rude people are impertinent. Therefore, no rude people are relevant. -- Solomon W. Golomb
Araik Margarian - 22 Mar 2006 13:37 GMT >> "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote... >>> This was long before that. 300 baud was $5 per hour and 1200 baud [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > 1984 or thereabouts. 1984 of George Orwell or our? If our, and at that time someone told me about modems and so, I would take it as Science fiction at the best case.
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
sam - 25 Mar 2006 21:03 GMT >>>"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote... >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > it > as Science fiction at the best case. Would you people please get off this newsgroup.There's always email,y'know. Why on earth you think cancer sufferers should wish to read this rubbish really baffles me. Please. Sam
Araik Margarian - 26 Mar 2006 05:19 GMT >>>>"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Please. > Sam When I wrote the response, I noticed that I could use OT. But who you are, demagogue? I bet you don't suffer and your business is just rubbishing and baffling around.
Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
Bob Allison - 26 Mar 2006 08:22 GMT > When I wrote the response, I noticed that I could use OT. > But who you are, demagogue? I bet you don't suffer and your business is just > rubbishing and baffling around. Don't take it personal. Sam is just a troll. Plonk him.
 Signature I'm too demented for just one person...I should be twins..
Bob in Carmel, CA
Araik Margarian - 22 Mar 2006 13:37 GMT >> "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote... >>> This was long before that. 300 baud was $5 per hour and 1200 baud [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > 1984 or thereabouts. 1984 of George Orwell or our? If our, and at that time someone told me about modems and so, I would take it as Science fiction at the best case.
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
J - 18 Mar 2006 09:24 GMT > >> Hugs, dear J. ((((J))))). You may be one of my invisible angel of kindness. > >> Though didn't get again the connection with eye color :) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I quit trying to picture people on line back in the eighties when I > attended one of the early "CB parties". (details) Helps me remember people and their case histories or how to find the info quick. My brain's full of case histories and other details regarding each person I've "met" on this NG.
> I went to Baltimore to meet > other people I talked to on the Compuserve CB simulator. Very few > had any slight resemblance to my mental pictures of them. Quite ! What was the biggest surprise? J
clifto - 18 Mar 2006 21:57 GMT >> I went to Baltimore to meet >> other people I talked to on the Compuserve CB simulator. Very few >> had any slight resemblance to my mental pictures of them. > > Quite ! What was the biggest surprise? I think that was about as surprising as things got. Everybody got along well, the people were pretty much the same in person as they were on line (conversationally), and a good time was had by all.
 Signature All relevant people are pertinent. All rude people are impertinent. Therefore, no rude people are relevant. -- Solomon W. Golomb
Chris Ness - 15 Mar 2006 23:09 GMT >> Sure. How are you? I'll post soon about my post-treatment mucosities >> battles. > > I'm well. Think "club soda". I'm well too, 'cept my mind feels all bubbly.
Araik Margarian - 15 Mar 2006 23:43 GMT >>> Sure. How are you? I'll post soon about my post-treatment mucosities >>> battles. >> >> I'm well. Think "club soda". > > I'm well too, 'cept my mind feels all bubbly. I can't comprehend it without elaborating "mind feels all bubbly." I can guess it's positive and I can guess sometimes my mind is bubbling too, specially under pain medication.
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
Chris Ness - 16 Mar 2006 01:17 GMT >>>> Sure. How are you? I'll post soon about my post-treatment mucosities >>>> battles. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I can guess it's positive and I can guess sometimes my mind > is bubbling too, specially under pain medication. Think club soda. ;-)
Araik Margarian - 16 Mar 2006 01:22 GMT >>>>> Sure. How are you? I'll post soon about my post-treatment >>>>> mucosities battles. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Think club soda. ;-) I see. I was almost there:)
 Signature Regards, Araik Margarian http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
Simm Webb - 16 Mar 2006 16:52 GMT > Think club soda. ;-) There's nothing wrong with club soda that a little scotch wouldn't cure.
maryanne kehoe - 17 Mar 2006 07:01 GMT >From: edvanhuffel@csx.net (Simm Webb) >Chris Ness wrote: >Araik Margarian wrote: >Think club soda. ;-) >There's nothing wrong with club soda that a >little scotch wouldn't cure.
But not for brain tumor patients! One of the guys at our meeting on Monday night was lamenting that he couldn't have the occasional drink of his favorite Scotch and soda. Ditto for Ken who misses his Southern and Ginger from time to time!
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