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Nausea Remedy

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sbrinks - 03 Mar 2006 18:06 GMT
For those of you who have nausea from chemo or radiation, and have
tried the standards of Zofran and other drugs, patches and wrist bands
(all of which I have used) with some degree of effectiveness.

I found the best help was something a nurse in chemo told me with a
generic name of "Tri-Med"  Its benedryl, reglan and dex.

You need to find a 'compounding pharmacy' one that still has someone
qualified to actually mix drugs (very few of them around but they are
out there, mostly the small ones privately owned are the ones to use).

Ask your doctor to prescribe it.  If your pharmacist doesnt know it,
have them call Linseys Pharmacy in Arvada, Colorado for that is where I
first had it done.  I now use a pharmacy in Irvine California (let me
know if you need one there) as I have moved.

The wrist bands are helpful, Imtrex works if a severe headache preceeds
the nausea (Imtrex nasal spray) but the Tri-Med is the trick.  Take it
and go lay down, you will sleep for one to two hours after it and get
up much better.

I am 37 months past a Stage IV Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the head and
neck, though this week a node has appeared on my lungs so we may have
round two.

But, as many of us have learned, it is not about me.  Its about God,
and He is in all and controls all so if I stay alive in this world, or
live in eternity with Him, either way I am alive.  So I have left it up
to Him to decide.  Of course, I will run the good race and fight with
all my strength, but the final outcome is His.

In speaking to several cancer patients lately, they had not found a
good nausea treatment and this worked for them also, so I thought it
proper to tell all of you about it.

livingthe dream
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Andy - 03 Mar 2006 18:32 GMT
> For those of you who have nausea from chemo or radiation, and have
> tried the standards of Zofran and other drugs, patches and wrist bands
> (all of which I have used) with some degree of effectiveness.
>
> I found the best help was something a nurse in chemo told me with a
> generic name of "Tri-Med"  Its benedryl, reglan and dex.

I will 2nd the recommendation of this medication.  My wife has found it
to be effective as well.  We also first heard about it from a chemo
nurse.

The doctors and nurses around here call this medication "BDR" (for the
initials of the drugs included in the mix), so this might be a common
designation in other localities too.

-Andy
 
Lorelei - 09 Mar 2006 17:27 GMT
the hospice nurse that we had for about a week told curt that Zofran is
for chemo nausea. he hadn't been on chemo since July 2005.
she recommended BDR and what a change it has made. he rubs into onto
his wet wrist 3 times per day. it has made all the difference in the
world!!
we can't get it from hospice anymore because they wouldn't let Curt get
blood transfusions (life-prolonging you know so he dropped out of
hospice ) so he had to find a pharmacy in richfield, MN that charged
$75/month but we can submit to insurance company.

he says he only puked once in a few weeks as opposed to several
times/day while on Zofran.

hope this helps others.
Lori
matt weber - 10 Mar 2006 14:46 GMT
>the hospice nurse that we had for about a week told curt that Zofran is
>for chemo nausea. he hadn't been on chemo since July 2005.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>hope this helps others.
>Lori
There are in fact several different triggers for nausea, and several
ways to trip the ctrz in the brain.  Zofram and Kytril are 5HT3
receptor blockers, which means they are very effective when those are
the receptors being tripped, and chemo therapy toxicity does indeed
trip the 5HT3 receptors, for nausea from other causes the 5HT3
activaction , they may be nowhere near as effective, and other drugs
such as phenolthiazines such as thorazine, or compazine  or  low dose
Haloperidol may be more effective, as they work on other mechanisms
than the 5HT3 receptor.
maryanne kehoe - 11 Mar 2006 06:22 GMT
We used an over-the-counter remedy this time (of course, called the onc
to be sure Ken could use it-always check with your doctor(s)!

Also, we found green tea was useful.

HTH
figgertoes - 03 Mar 2006 19:37 GMT
> I found the best help was something a nurse in chemo told me with a
> generic name of "Tri-Med"  Its benedryl, reglan and dex.

Not a medication, but try ginger in any of its forms.  Chrystalized
ginger in many food stores & healthy food stores,  sticky candies
(Socks' fav) & a hot/cold drink mix powder, both in oriental markets.
There are 'ginger snaps' that look like brown altoids & come in similar
box, but they're made in Boulder (may be regional).  Ginger ale, but
make sure it's made with ginger.  Don't think I'd want fresh uncooked.

These calm almost instantly, so you might try while pills are taking
effect.  Or you may need ginger to calm in order to keep pill down.
Often ginger worked for Socks with no further meds needed.  Works for
me too.  Keep a few in dishes wherever you usually are.

Fig
Emily - 04 Mar 2006 00:04 GMT
figtoes@yahoo.com said...
> Not a medication, but try ginger in any of its forms.

Get the root (fresh) and keep it in the fridge.  Grate it into a mug of
boiling water for a refreshing infusion; adjust strength to taste and
add a little sugar if necessary.
Figgertoes - 04 Mar 2006 01:49 GMT
> figtoes@yahoo.com said...
>> Not a medication, but try ginger in any of its forms.
>>
> Get the root (fresh) and keep it in the fridge.  Grate it into a mug of
> boiling water for a refreshing infusion; adjust strength to taste and
> add a little sugar if necessary.

Now I'm remembering my special tea, made just that way but with honey &
lemon.  I put a wedge of lemon in the cup as I love the slightly bitter
taste.  
Fig
Emily - 04 Mar 2006 16:01 GMT
me@privacy.net said...

> > figtoes@yahoo.com said...
> >> Not a medication, but try ginger in any of its forms.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> lemon.  I put a wedge of lemon in the cup as I love the slightly bitter
> taste.  

Ooh, a remedy for the common cold is that.  Add just the merest drop
(well about a capful actually) of cheapish whisky (no point wasting a
decent malt on this one) and all those harbingers of doom (There Is No
Cure For The Common Cold) are instantly proved wrong :-)
Figgertoes - 04 Mar 2006 23:40 GMT
> me@privacy.net said...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> decent malt on this one) and all those harbingers of doom (There Is No
> Cure For The Common Cold) are instantly proved wrong :-)

I didn't know that.  I rarely get colds, so maybe that's why.  I just like
the taste & the warm drink before bed.

Fig
Emily - 05 Mar 2006 19:56 GMT
me@privacy.net said...
> >> > Get the root (fresh) and keep it in the fridge.  Grate it into a
> >> > mug of boiling water for a refreshing infusion; adjust strength to
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> I didn't know that.  I rarely get colds, so maybe that's why.  I just like
> the taste & the warm drink before bed.

I think the real cure for a cold is probably to sleep it off to be
honest.  But if the addition of a capful of whisky to a hot drink helps
with the sleep process I'll happily believe anything :-)
Figgertoes - 06 Mar 2006 02:42 GMT
> me@privacy.net said...
>> >> > Get the root (fresh) and keep it in the fridge.  Grate it into a
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> honest.  But if the addition of a capful of whisky to a hot drink
> helps with the sleep process I'll happily believe anything :-)

Oh, so you're thinking the /whiskey/ is therapeutic.  Well, I won't try to
Scotch that:-)
Fig
Pen - 06 Mar 2006 03:10 GMT
>> me@privacy.net said...
>>>>>> Get the root (fresh) and keep it in the fridge.  Grate it into a
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> try to Scotch that:-)
> Fig

Speaking of whiskey.... I'm home and one of the first things I did was pick
up my bottle of Dr. McGillicuddy Fireball Whisky...... just finished my
nightly shot. mmmmmm good...... Not sure how therapeutic it really is but it
feels like it is. <giggle>
Penny
 
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