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Sorry, but I have to be a bit political after reading of some recent deaths here

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46erjoe - 02 Mar 2006 23:36 GMT
I know it's a complicated issue, but I sometimes can't help but
wonder...  What would be the outcome if the $260 billion spent on Iraq
were used instead to find a cure for cancer?

OK. Let the flames come and I promise not to reply because I don't
want this to become argumentative.

I just wish there was more hope on the horizon for cancer patients. We
seem to have plateaued in research.
Steph - 03 Mar 2006 05:53 GMT
>I know it's a complicated issue, but I sometimes can't help but
> wonder...  What would be the outcome if the $260 billion spent on Iraq
> were used instead to find a cure for cancer?

About 60% of cancers are already cured. MOre if you include skin cancers.

> OK. Let the flames come and I promise not to reply because I don't
> want this to become argumentative.
>
> I just wish there was more hope on the horizon for cancer patients. We
> seem to have plateaued in research.

There is plenty of hope for cancer patients, and it's not on the horizon
Figgertoes - 03 Mar 2006 07:37 GMT
> I know it's a complicated issue, but I sometimes can't help but
> wonder...  What would be the outcome if the $260 billion spent on Iraq
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I just wish there was more hope on the horizon for cancer patients. We
> seem to have plateaued in research.

You're not the only one who thinks that.  There is a cite in Sock's blog
about diverting (I believe) a month's worth of war money to cancer research
& what that might accomplish.

Fig
matt weber - 04 Mar 2006 00:36 GMT
>I know it's a complicated issue, but I sometimes can't help but
>wonder...  What would be the outcome if the $260 billion spent on Iraq
>were used instead to find a cure for cancer?
Probably wouldn't help. We have spent hundred of billions on research
for cancer cures in the past decade, and for many cancers we are not a
lot closer to a cure. Howeve 260 billion would provide a lot of health
care for the uninsured, or rebuild new orleans, both of which I think
are far more important to our national security, and of far greater
benefit to US citizens  than Iraq is.

Iraq was bad decision, repeatedly compounded by bad management, lies,
and incompetence. By the way, 260 billion is $13,000 per Iraqi
national.

>OK. Let the flames come and I promise not to reply because I don't
>want this to become argumentative.
>
>I just wish there was more hope on the horizon for cancer patients. We
>seem to have plateaued in research.
46erjoe - 05 Mar 2006 00:02 GMT
>>I know it's a complicated issue, but I sometimes can't help but
>>wonder...  What would be the outcome if the $260 billion spent on Iraq
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>>I just wish there was more hope on the horizon for cancer patients. We
>>seem to have plateaued in research.

If mega-bucks hasn't moved us much closer to a cancer cure, then what
is the alternative? Prevention is what I hear a lot about. And that's
good. But once you get it severe enough, it is unfortunately a death
sentence.

Mind you it's not as bad as I thought it would be. For me anyway. It's
nice to be prepared for dying, to have a chance to put things in
order, unlike for those folks who die suddenly. And with the
pain-killers out there, I'm thinking it may not be too uncomfortable.
Nice to have family around too, holding your hand as you drift into
eternity. Palliative care is I think what it's called.

I feel very sad however, for those who unlike me, have not had a lot
of years of living behind them. They're the ones that the cure is
needed for, not so much for old codjers like me who have lived and
loved and done some pretty neat things in their lives.

I'm particularly proud of being 151st person in the whole world who
have summitted all 46 peaks in the Adirondack Mts. in winter (mostly
solo). Hence my moniker 46erjoe. Go here if you're interested:
http://www.adk46r.org. Or here for pix
http://alavigne.net/newHomePage/Outdoors/FeatureReports/Adirondacks/HighPeaksBes
tOf/index.jsp

Man, what a trip! What memories. Me and my dog mostly ... and he's got
cancer too BTW ... heck, we may die together.
DLU - 08 Mar 2006 18:28 GMT
> I'm particularly proud of being 151st person in the whole world who
> have summitted all 46 peaks in the Adirondack Mts. in winter (mostly
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Man, what a trip! What memories. Me and my dog mostly ... and he's got
> cancer too BTW ... heck, we may die together.

That is a real accomplishment.  That is less people than have climbed
Mt. Everest.  I have done winter climbing in the Sierra Nevada but the
temperatures are mild compared to the Adirondaks.  Here 10 deg. is a
cold day.  There 10 deg. is a warm spring day.

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