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Ahasverus - 24 Feb 2006 20:07 GMT
Hello.

I´m Jorge "Ahasverus" Silva.

I had a diagnostic a year ago of a biphasic synovial sarcoma in a leg
and an initial metastasis in a rib.
Was operated to the leg at February and to the rib at September.

Did chemotherapy (Ifosfamide and Adriamicina) and radiotherapy.

Now, I've got some more, at both lungs, in the sacro bone and a in a
vertebra.
Started another go at chemotherapy (Gemcitabina and... don't remember
the name of the other now...)

At this time my emotional shape is a little low.

Thanks for listening.

Best regards,

Jorge
J - 24 Feb 2006 22:21 GMT
> I´m Jorge "Ahasverus" Silva.
>
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>
> At this time my emotional shape is a little low.

Hello Jorge,
It's sure discouraging to hear that your cancer spread, but you're among
others here, who are in the same situation and can relate.
Penny (should be back soon from travelling), Odie, Lori's husband, John's
wife, Joe and possibly many others (lurking). All different, but incurable
cancers. What you'll find here is compassion and understanding and
hopefully, friendship.

Even if we can't help you with your cancer, maybe if you tell us more
about yourself, some can share the tears, the joys and the frustrations. I
hope you'll be a regular poster here.
J
stevensc - 24 Feb 2006 23:16 GMT
My sister also has synovial sarcoma. Hers began in her lung. They
operated and chemo til it all was removed. But it has came back. Have
you ever heard of fish oil curing the cancer? I found these articles,
this guy also has sarcoma and claims to be cured.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA020506.healthstudy.KENS.755e1
a93.html

http://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/report.asp?story=RAND%20Corpation%20Unfairly%20
Smears%20Fish%20Oil%20Pills

http://www.woai.com/health/story.aspx?content_id=D0248D7B-0F61-42D1-8E22-6ED50D0EA035
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/09/040922073943.htm
stevensc - 24 Feb 2006 23:29 GMT
This guy also has sarcoma and was cured with fish oil
http://www.medgadget.com/archives/2005/11/successful_nutr.html
http://www.worldhealth.net/p/did-omega-3-save-man-from-cancer-2005-12-02.html
J - 25 Feb 2006 08:18 GMT
> My sister also has synovial sarcoma. Hers began in her lung. They
> operated and chemo til it all was removed. But it has came back. Have
> you ever heard of fish oil curing the cancer?

No and you won't find any believable one.

> I found these articles, this guy also has sarcoma and claims to be cured.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Look for Phase III (cancer) clinical trial results. No Phase III, forget about it. Waste of time, hope and
money.

I'm sorry to read about your sister's recurrence.
J
Kathy Alexander - 25 Feb 2006 01:15 GMT
Hey our 16 year old son was diagnoised Jan. 3, 2005 with Osteosarcoma he has
a website www.supportcody.com
Hello.

I´m Jorge "Ahasverus" Silva.

I had a diagnostic a year ago of a biphasic synovial sarcoma in a leg
and an initial metastasis in a rib.
Was operated to the leg at February and to the rib at September.

Did chemotherapy (Ifosfamide and Adriamicina) and radiotherapy.

Now, I've got some more, at both lungs, in the sacro bone and a in a
vertebra.
Started another go at chemotherapy (Gemcitabina and... don't remember
the name of the other now...)

At this time my emotional shape is a little low.

Thanks for listening.

Best regards,

Jorge
stevensc - 25 Feb 2006 16:15 GMT
Search google for; fish oil cure cancer algae. It is in varies news
sites it has been done. Everyones body is different. These people chose
the oil instead of chemo. I do not have cancer but if I had to take a
pound of omega-3 oil a month to live longer, I think I would for my
kids.

>From PubMed.gov; Dietary fish oil, carp and tuna oils, shark liver oil,
and Flax oil inhibits and reduce tumor growth and volume in
tumor-bearing rats.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1
902347&dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&term=sarcoma+
fish+oil&tool=QuerySuggestion

Cancer.
In some animal studies, fish oils inhibited growth and metastasis of
tumors. Negative experimental results with w3 fish oils in cancer
treatment are likely due to poor product quality (rancid oils) or the
use of fish oils low in w3 fatty acids. Trout, salmon, mackerel,
sardines, tuna, and eel are the richest sources of w3 fatty acids. The
oils must be fresh for good results. They deteriorate rapidly.

http://hdlighthouse.org/see/epa/fishoil.htm

Dietary fatty acids are believed to play an important role in
carcinogenesis. Oleic acid (in olive oil), eicosapentaenoic and
docosahexaenoic acids (in fish oil) may have anti-tumour effects as
suggested by epidemiological and laboratory studies. Attention has
focused on the fatty acid conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), known to have
the most potent anti-tumour effects of all fatty acids (maximum
effectiveness at 1% in animal diet). The effects of CLA may be mediated
through enhanced apoptosis. However, its effects on genes involved in
apoptosis are unknown. This study has examined the effects of CLA on
p53, p21WAF1and bcl-2 expression, which are believed to play a key role
in apoptosis.

http://www.rcsed.ac.uk/journal/vol46_1/4610010.htm

Omega-3s gain medical ground as Prozac and Celebrex fall from grace
http://www.imakenews.com/vitalchoiceseafood/e_article000345203.cfm?x=b4f5Hm9,b1p
TrCB7,w

J - 25 Feb 2006 17:03 GMT
> Search google for; fish oil cure cancer algae. It is in varies news
> sites it has been done. Everyones body is different. These people chose
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> sardines, tuna, and eel are the richest sources of w3 fatty acids. The
> oils must be fresh for good results. They deteriorate rapidly.

In rats or mice, for heaven's sake, get a grip !

Phase III human clincial trial results. What part of that do you not understand?

Mouse and rat enthusiasts forget one simple but vital fact.
Experimental mouse tumours are, by and large, carefully selected monoclonal tumours.
Anything which works for one cell will work for the entire tumour.
Human "wild" tumours, on the other hand, are breathtakingly polyclonal in
the vast majority of cases. Any treatment may work well for some of the
clones present, but less well or not at all, for others. This is one reason
why promising mouse treatments are so often disappointing in humans.

and in this one,  http://www.rcsed.ac.uk/journal/vol46_1/4610010.htm
it's in a petri dish. Anything, at large enough amounts, can kill a cancer cell in a petri dish.
You and/or your sister could literally drown yourself in fish oil and/or algae and not even kill one tumour cell.

Most of the cancer patients reading here are smart enough to figure that out.

You're wasting your time and mine, educating the naive or stupid ones....
Please quit or I'll instruct the readers on how to block your posts.
So if you get a "plonk" reply, you'll know what that means.
J.
J - 25 Feb 2006 17:04 GMT
> Search google for; fish oil cure cancer algae. It is in varies news
> sites it has been done. Everyones body is different. These people chose
> the oil instead of chemo. I do not have cancer but if I had to take a
> pound of omega-3 oil a month to live longer,

You wouldn't.
J

> I think I would for my kids.
J - 25 Feb 2006 17:10 GMT
> Search google for; fish oil cure cancer algae. It is in varies news
> sites it has been done. Everyones body is different. These people chose
> the oil instead of chemo. I do not have cancer but if I had to take a
> pound of omega-3 oil a month to live longer, I think I would for my
> kids.

if you wish to discuss the health benefits of fish oil, supplements, algae, omega-3, as part of a general
non-cancer healthy diet, go discuss it on news:alt.health and/or news:misc.health alternative
J
J - 25 Feb 2006 17:13 GMT
> if you wish to discuss the health benefits of fish oil, supplements, algae, omega-3, as part of a general
> non-cancer healthy diet, go discuss it on news:alt.health and/or news:misc.health.alternative

Newsgroup name corercted (I hope)
J
stevensc - 26 Feb 2006 05:22 GMT
I take Flax oil and Primevening oil, all day long. They give me energy,
helped me lose 30 lbs., may also be why I do not have cancer. Sorry the
way you feel that way against Omega3's, I am glad they help me.
J - 26 Feb 2006 11:46 GMT
> <lifestyle improvements> I am glad they help me.

I'm glad too. Your sister and family will need you to be strong and healthy
for her.

J
Chris Ness - 26 Feb 2006 14:04 GMT
> I take Flax oil and Primevening oil, all day long. They give me energy,
> helped me lose 30 lbs., may also be why I do not have cancer. Sorry the
> way you feel that way against Omega3's, I am glad they help me.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

And I snap my fingers to keep the elephants away.
There isn't a wild elephant within 4000 miles.
See it works.
clifto - 26 Feb 2006 21:31 GMT
>> I take Flax oil and Primevening oil, all day long. They give me energy,
>> helped me lose 30 lbs., may also be why I do not have cancer. Sorry the
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> There isn't a wild elephant within 4000 miles.
> See it works.

So THAT'S who's been driving them all over here!

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