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Emily - 20 Feb 2006 22:54 GMT
Mother was going for a PET scan on Thursday; it now turns out there's a
cancellation tomorrow (Tuesday) so she's going then instead.  She'll be
going to St Thomas' in London (allied to Guy's courtesy of Health Trust
wotnots that replaced good old fashioned health authorities), which
means she'll be in good hands, both hospitals being major teaching ones
with top consultants etc.  Apparently her consultant hasn't quite made
up his mind whether surgery is appropriate, so it all hangs on the
results of the scan.  If it seems more sensible, he may go for
radiotherapy instead of surgery - or he may do both.  Steph, are you
there?  Can you come up with any idea what he may have in mind?  
Mother's previous tumour was squamous cell in - IIRC - the lower jaw (or
at any rate near to there).  The current problem is in the cheek on the
same side of the mouth.

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Figgertoes - 21 Feb 2006 04:38 GMT
> Mother was going for a PET scan on Thursday; it now turns out there's a
> cancellation tomorrow (Tuesday) so she's going then instead.  She'll be
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> at any rate near to there).  The current problem is in the cheek on the
> same side of the mouth.

Emily,

My thoughts are with you & your mother.  Hope for the best.  Please let us
know when you hear something.  I'll be here caring for both of you.

Fig
Emily - 21 Feb 2006 15:45 GMT
me@privacy.net said...

> > Mother was going for a PET scan on Thursday; it now turns out there's a
> > cancellation tomorrow (Tuesday) so she's going then instead.  
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> My thoughts are with you & your mother.  Hope for the best.  Please let us
> know when you hear something.  I'll be here caring for both of you.

Thanks love.  I should imagine she'll be at the hospital for most of the
day, that being the way things tend to work, so I won't call her until
later.  I'm hoping things aren't too bad for her - she doesn't need to
lose any weight so there aren't any benefits I can think of in not being
able to eat properly - plus it's a nightmare for anyone trying to cater
for her.  I'm hoping surgery won't be necessary, partly because of that
and partly because she's not as strong as she used to be (she's in her
late 70s now and she's never really been what I'd call 'young') - I say,
I'm rather glad she's not reading this!

I'm not going to pretend that she and I are the best of friends, because
we're not, never have been and never will be, but OTOH I'm not ready to
start organising funerals just yet either... and going by previous
experience her husband will be about as useful as a chocolate
fireguard...  Bother, I'm meandering.

Here, have I got an incentive to tidy the house in the near future?  Not
that long ago you were threatening to visit.  Spring's usually rather
nice over here you know... :-)

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Figgertoes - 21 Feb 2006 19:09 GMT
> me@privacy.net said...
>>
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> used to be (she's in her late 70s now and she's never really been what
> I'd call 'young') - I say, I'm rather glad she's not reading this!

I hear you.  I had a grandmother who was born 80, but I loved her dearly.  
We chose our friends but not our relatives, but there's always that bond
just the same.

>will be about as useful as a chocolate
> fireguard...  

Em, are these original?  If so, you should be writing for Leno.

> Here, have I got an incentive to tidy the house in the near future?
> Not that long ago you were threatening to visit.  Spring's usually
> rather nice over here you know... :-)

I want, I wish, I don't know...

Am trying to figure out how to manage my personal life.  I've had to hire  
a contract accountant.  He's really great, but he's retired military &
keeps playing 'Momma may I."  I guess that military training is hard to
shake, but I have to constantly check to see if he's sitting there with
his hand in the air.  Then this summer I may hire some summer interns
from Texas who will require lots of looking after too.  I prefer doing
the work myself to overseeing others (by far), but sometimes ya gotta.

So - short story long - hmmm spring is tempting & interns wouldn't be
here yet.  I'll have to see how work goes & if I can empower Mr.
Stars/Stripes.  I have another guy starting in another week, so help is
on the way!  Speaking of which, I better get down there; been working
from home night/day, still in jammies!

Keep me posted re Mother.
Fig
Figgertoes - 21 Feb 2006 19:17 GMT
Forgot to mention:  my senate testamony is tomorrow afternoon.  That should
be end of daytime trips to legislature.  Now if something else doesn't pop
up to take its place, I'll have more work-time.
Fig
Emily - 21 Feb 2006 22:40 GMT
me@privacy.net said...
> Forgot to mention:  my senate testamony is tomorrow afternoon.  That should
> be end of daytime trips to legislature.  Now if something else doesn't pop
> up to take its place, I'll have more work-time.

Is this to do with the smoking issues?  Good luck - we'll be thinking of
you and crossing everything that can be crossed.  Fingers, toes, uohc,
ti ameks ti evyr idffcilut ot ytep...  I'll uncross my fingers for a
bit, if you don't mind.  Hope everything goes just the way you want it
to.  And I'll cross my fingers again tomorrow when I'm not trying to
type :-)

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figgertoes - 21 Feb 2006 23:40 GMT
> me@privacy.net said...
> > Forgot to mention:  my senate testamony is tomorrow afternoon.  That should
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> --
> Em
That's the one.  Thanks for the crossings.  Maybe virtual crossings
will do???  And allow you some functionality.  I hope whatever I've
come down with leaves me in the night.  I can work but not much else &
might make even less sense than usual.  We are still pushing for a
stong bill, but I doubt we'll get the casinos back.  Do you have
casinos?  If so, are they included?  Come to think of it, I've never
seen one in UK.
Emily - 23 Feb 2006 23:55 GMT
figtoes@yahoo.com said...
> Do you have
> casinos?  If so, are they included?  Come to think of it, I've never
> seen one in UK.

Yes we do have casinos here but it's not as big a 'thing' as it is in
the US.  A Bill has recently gone through to allow a small number of
relatively larger ones though so I imagine the numbers will increase.  
We seem to specialise in bingo here :-(
Emily - 22 Feb 2006 00:42 GMT
me@privacy.net said...

> > me@privacy.net said...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Em, are these original?  If so, you should be writing for Leno.

I fear not.  The other one I sometimes use is chocolate teapot.  Did you
know thatsomeone actually did a study to discover what use that might
be?

http://www.plokta.com/plokta/issue23/teapot.htm

> > Here, have I got an incentive to tidy the house in the near future?
> > Not that long ago you were threatening to visit.  Spring's usually
> > rather nice over here you know... :-)
> >
> I want, I wish, I don't know...

I know, you used to be indecisive, but now you're not so sure :-)

> Am trying to figure out how to manage my personal life.

Manage?

> I've had to hire  
> a contract accountant.  He's really great, but he's retired military &
> keeps playing 'Momma may I."  I guess that military training is hard to
> shake, but I have to constantly check to see if he's sitting there with
> his hand in the air.

Oh dear.  I'm sorry, but this conjures up a vision of a sergeant major
complete with Winsor Davies style moustache, in full military regalia,
meekly sitting at the table, putting his hand up to ask a question.

> Then this summer I may hire some summer interns
> from Texas who will require lots of looking after too.  I prefer doing
> the work myself to overseeing others (by far), but sometimes ya gotta.

> So - short story long - hmmm spring is tempting & interns wouldn't be
> here yet.  I'll have to see how work goes & if I can empower Mr.
> Stars/Stripes.  I have another guy starting in another week, so help is
> on the way!  Speaking of which, I better get down there; been working
> from home night/day, still in jammies!

And why not :-)

> Keep me posted re Mother.

Will do.  I've not heard anything yet, but I'm going to check my email
in a minute.  She won't have had results yet presumably, but I think the
consultant wants them pretty well immediately.  I haven't a clue how
long a PET scan takes to be interpreted or what has to be done in order
to get results from them, but I guess it can't be too long - or else
maybe the consultant has unrealistic expectations... it wouldn't be the
first time that happened.
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figgertoes - 22 Feb 2006 01:30 GMT
> me@privacy.net said...
> >
> > Am trying to figure out how to manage my personal life.
>
> Manage?
As in manage to have one.  Don't mind me, I get this way this time most
years - & it passes...

> Oh dear.  I'm sorry, but this conjures up a vision of a sergeant major
> complete with Winsor Davies style moustache, in full military regalia,
> meekly sitting at the table, putting his hand up to ask a question.

No moustache, but exceedingly erect posture & neat.  He's thorough &
doing a good job & I do like & respect him.  Laid back is not in his
vocabulary.  I asked him if the ma'am businesss was because I was
insulting him unknowingly, but he says that's just his way.  It's
interesting; I've not been around military types much & I've never met
one in oil/gas.

So I'll see you in 2 weeks? <giggle>

PET scan results were not an overnight proposition for Socks.  Took
better part of a week, as I recall.  But maybe sooner if it's urgent
enough & maybe things are speedier in Eastpondia.

Hugs,
Fig
Emily - 24 Feb 2006 00:01 GMT
figtoes@yahoo.com said...

> > me@privacy.net said...
> > >
> > > Am trying to figure out how to manage my personal life.
> >
> > Manage?

> As in manage to have one.  Don't mind me, I get this way this time most
> years - & it passes...

I'll probably drop you an email some time.

> So I'll see you in 2 weeks? <giggle>

Oh, that would be so lovely!  I'd work night and day to get the place
habitable and to find the floor, locate something to sit on and even
exhume a bed if I thought you really meant it.

> PET scan results were not an overnight proposition for Socks.  Took
> better part of a week, as I recall.  But maybe sooner if it's urgent
> enough & maybe things are speedier in Eastpondia.

I don't know if things are speedier; I'd have said not usually, because
there's a trade-off with our NHS system in that we have to wait for
certain things.  That said, I must assume the consultant knows whereof
he speaks, and if he reckons he can get the results in 48 hours
presumably he know something the rest of us don't.  Anyway, mother's
appointment is sometime tomorrow, so we'll either find out that the
consultant was being somewhat over optimistic, or that the results are
in and plans can be made.

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Alayne - 24 Feb 2006 07:50 GMT
> figtoes@yahoo.com said...
>>
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> consultant was being somewhat over optimistic, or that the results are
> in and plans can be made.

Thinking of you and your ma Em and hoping that the results aren't too bad.

Hugs

Alayne
Emily - 25 Feb 2006 00:36 GMT
totallyfake@email.com said...
> Thinking of you and your ma Em and hoping that the results aren't too bad.

Mother's going to have radiotherapy rather than surgery, and will have
her mask made in the near future.  I've sent her the link for Pauline's
Diary (http://fashion-era.com/Cancer_Diary.htm) in the hope that it'll
help and inform...  Well I found it interesting and informative anyway.

Oh, the tumour's about 2cm.  I gather that ought to mean something to
someone.
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Steph - 25 Feb 2006 01:56 GMT
> totallyfake@email.com said...
>> Thinking of you and your ma Em and hoping that the results aren't too
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> Oh, the tumour's about 2cm.  I gather that ought to mean something to
> someone.

If it's an scc. it means radiotherapy should work well
Emily - 25 Feb 2006 15:04 GMT
steph@vancouvers.island said...
> > Oh, the tumour's about 2cm.  I gather that ought to mean something to
> > someone.
>
> If it's an scc. it means radiotherapy should work well

Thanks Steph.
Figgertoes - 22 Feb 2006 03:59 GMT
> I fear not.  The other one I sometimes use is chocolate teapot.  Did
> you know thatsomeone actually did a study to discover what use that
> might be?
>
> http://www.plokta.com/plokta/issue23/teapot.htm

I missed this part on google.  What a hoot!  I kept expecting to see,"And
thus hot chocolate was born!"
Fig
Steph - 22 Feb 2006 06:51 GMT
> Mother was going for a PET scan on Thursday; it now turns out there's a
> cancellation tomorrow (Tuesday) so she's going then instead.  She'll be
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> at any rate near to there).  The current problem is in the cheek on the
> same side of the mouth.

Thommies is a good place, Emily.
Wait until the results are in, then take the advice of your specialist
Emily - 22 Feb 2006 21:58 GMT
steph@vancouvers.island said...
> Steph, are you
> > there?  Can you come up with any idea what he may have in mind?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thommies is a good place, Emily.
> Wait until the results are in, then take the advice of your specialist

Apparently the consultant wants them for an appointment on Friday
morning.  I have to say that sounds a tad optimistic to me, but one can
only assume he knows what he's doing and/or that he has an ultra-
efficient radiography (?) team.  Oh well, we just have to wait and see.  
Meanwhile mother continues trying to fit at least 36 hours into every
day and thus never has time for anything because she's always got too
much to do.  She's one of the most exhausting people I've ever met.
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J - 23 Feb 2006 09:16 GMT
> Apparently the consultant wants them for an appointment on Friday
> morning.  I have to say that sounds a tad optimistic to me, but one can
> only assume he knows what he's doing and/or that he has an ultra-
> efficient radiography (?) team.  Oh well, we just have to wait and see.

Hope she knows to stop face creams, Em, although Friday could be discuss or mask
fitting?
J
Emily - 24 Feb 2006 00:01 GMT
studras@anon.inv said...

> > Apparently the consultant wants them for an appointment on Friday
> > morning.  I have to say that sounds a tad optimistic to me, but one can
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Hope she knows to stop face creams, Em, although Friday could be discuss or mask
> fitting?

Face creams??  Pardon?
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J - 03 Mar 2006 22:22 GMT
> studras@anon.inv said...
> >
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>
> Face creams??  Pardon?

Sorry, I forgot.
There's only so much detail a human can remember.
If that's not true, I'm spreading the rumor anyway. :p
How's things, Em?
J
Emily - 04 Mar 2006 00:02 GMT
studras@anon.inv said...
> > > Hope she knows to stop face creams, Em, although Friday could be discuss or mask
> > > fitting?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> If that's not true, I'm spreading the rumor anyway. :p
> How's things, Em?

<g> Sorry, I was just trying to imagine my mother using any form of
cream on her face or anywhere else for that matter.  She's as bad as me
when it comes to makeup - neither of us have the foggiest notion what to
do with it.  In fact, if I'm going anywhere posh, I usually get given
(whether I want it or not) advice from my 16 year old daughter... :-)

I haven't posted simply because so far there hasn't been any news to
report.  

Mother's having a weekend away at the moment (and the very best of luck
to her.  It's freezing cold and in the west country where she's gone
schools have been closed because of impassable[1] roads - but that's
another rant), and then next week she goes to have her mask made and all
sorts of other fun things like exact measurements etc so that treatment
can then start ASAP.

[1] Warning: weather-related rant follows...
It snows every year here, isn't that amazing?  And every year it takes
the authorities completely by surprise!  Wow, look everybody, it's
SNOWING!!  Quick, get the gritters out on to the roads before they
freeze... oh whoops.  Too late.  Oh dear, we'll have to close the
schools and council offices because of all the snow on the roads that
would be perfectly passable if only we'd gritted and salted them soon
enough when the cold weather was first forecast...  So everything grinds
to a halt.  I was supposed to have blood tests last week, but there was
no guarantee that the bloods could be transported the distance of two
whole miles from vampire to laboratory - so I now have to wait until
next week.  It's pathetic, it really is.  I mean, *I* could have taken
the vials of Hb to the lab myself (it is only two miles, after all), but
of course that's not allowed...  Bah.

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Emily, disgusted with her weather-shy countrymen.

Alayne - 04 Mar 2006 10:18 GMT
> studras@anon.inv said...
>> > > Hope she knows to stop face creams, Em, although Friday could be
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> the vials of Hb to the lab myself (it is only two miles, after all), but
> of course that's not allowed...  Bah.

Go for the weather rant Em!!  It always seems to miss us down here and we
just get stuck with freezing temperatures.  I do recall when Tony was doing
his radiotherapy though and the transport got cancelled (although no-one
told us) cos we managed to get a bit of snow.  Fortunately I was allowed to
take him in for his blast although being a snow-novice the ride was pretty
scary ;-) but at least I could find a place to park ;-)

Hugs

Alayne
J - 04 Mar 2006 10:28 GMT
> [1] Warning: weather-related rant follows...
> It snows every year here, isn't that amazing?  And every year it takes
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> --
> Emily, disgusted with her weather-shy countrymen.

Well, I typed in "black ice" and wales and got a BBC weather report for year 2004
So I went to main page and picked two locations (West) in Wales that have black clouds and
both say that next Tuesday will be "low visibility".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/wales/
That's the weather report from me. :p

Our road people start the day or night before with the gritters. Schools have closed
around here as well, in the past few weeks, but I don't know if labs are affected (or
not).

Thanks for the update, Em.
I'm a week (or so) early asking but once someone's diagnosed I'm impatient for treatment
to start.
Of course, they don't care about my impatience. :)
Hugs
J
Emily - 04 Mar 2006 15:41 GMT
studras@anon.inv said...
> > Emily, disgusted with her weather-shy countrymen.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/wales/
> That's the weather report from me. :p

Ah, sorry, I may have given a wrong impression there.  The 'West
Country' is Somerset, Devon and Cornwall as far as the UK is concerned,
and that's where mother is at the moment.  Lovely sunny freezing cold
Devon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=1886

> Our road people start the day or night before with the gritters. Schools have closed
> around here as well, in the past few weeks, but I don't know if labs are affected (or
> not).

Yes, but you're in Canada, right?  We've got relatives in Toronto who
tell of huge amounts of snow and regular freezing cold temperatures that
make our pitiful attemps at winter look like the balmy tropics in
comparison.  I'd sort of expect that with what we've got here Canadians
would just shrug and carry on.  I could be wrong I suppose...  But I do
get very impatient with the way everything stops here because just
something totally expected has happened.  It happens every year these
days it seems.  When I was working in London the trains used to have to
stop running if the weather was bad; however it was unthinkable that
workers wouldn't make the effort to get into work.  It was just
something we did - call it the Stiff Upper Lip or whatever, we tried to
carry on as if nothing had happened and if that meant taking 2 hrs over
a 15 mile journey then that's what we did.  Bah.  Yoofer today and all
that.  Oh my, I've just realised.  HELP!  I'M GETTING OLD!  Quick, fetch
my tonic!

> Thanks for the update, Em.
> I'm a week (or so) early asking but once someone's diagnosed I'm impatient for treatment
> to start.
> Of course, they don't care about my impatience. :)

For all people complain about the NHS they can move mighty quick when
they want to.  Quite often people have to wait for months before they
can have, say, a cataract or hip operated on - but give the NHS
something like cancer or any other condition that needs urgent treatment
and that treatment's there, now, when it's needed.  Which isn't bad for
a seriously overstretched system.

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Emily - 09 Mar 2006 23:53 GMT
me@privacy.net said...
> > Thanks for the update, Em.
> > I'm a week (or so) early asking but once someone's diagnosed I'm impatient for treatment
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> and that treatment's there, now, when it's needed.  Which isn't bad for
> a seriously overstretched system.

I've not heard from mother today; however there should be some sort of
news, because if all went according to plan (ha!) she should have had
her first 'mask' appointment today.  She's not keen on having things on
her face, so I bet she found it wonderful fun - not.  Radiotherapy
should start in the very near future, but I don't know exactly when.
Emily - 10 Mar 2006 22:21 GMT
me@privacy.net said...
> me@privacy.net said...
> > > Thanks for the update, Em.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> her face, so I bet she found it wonderful fun - not.  Radiotherapy
> should start in the very near future, but I don't know exactly when.

Update:  Mother's had her mask made and reports that it wasn't as bad as
she'd been led to believe because she had a superb technician who
explained everything as it happened and told mother where the next bit
of warm plaster was to go.  Apparently photos were taken as well.  I do
hope I get to see them...  I don't know exactly when the treatment is
due to start; can't be just yet though because she's reckoning on coming
for a quick visit beforehand.

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Pen - 10 Mar 2006 23:33 GMT
> me@privacy.net said...
>> me@privacy.net said...
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> is due to start; can't be just yet though because she's reckoning on
> coming for a quick visit beforehand.

That is good news! It is so amazing what a difference a good caregiver can
do. Glad to hear it went okay for her.
Penny
Alayne - 11 Mar 2006 10:30 GMT
> me@privacy.net said...
>> me@privacy.net said...
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> due to start; can't be just yet though because she's reckoning on coming
> for a quick visit beforehand.

Good to hear that things went okay with your ma Em, mask fitting is a weird
experience but at least it's painless.

Thinking of you guys and sending Warm Hugs

Alayne
alex - 11 Mar 2006 16:09 GMT
> Update:  Mother's had her mask made and reports that it wasn't as bad as
> she'd been led to believe because she had a superb technician who
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> due to start; can't be just yet though because she's reckoning on coming
> for a quick visit beforehand.

Glad to hear all is running smoothly wishing your mother the best. Alex
turtletrot1 - 04 Mar 2006 13:33 GMT
More on weather related.....It becomes apparent that there will never
be any food after the storm.  Groceries/supermarkets will never open.
Must be so judging by the shopping frenzy when a storm is forecast.
(Born and raised in New England where we have some doozy winters and
always have!!)
Emily - 04 Mar 2006 15:58 GMT
turtletrot1@bellsouth.net said...
> More on weather related.....It becomes apparent that there will never
> be any food after the storm.  Groceries/supermarkets will never open.
> Must be so judging by the shopping frenzy when a storm is forecast.
> (Born and raised in New England where we have some doozy winters and
> always have!!)

Oh yes, well obviously!  Same at Christmas by any chance?  Shops closed
(shock, horror) for TWO WHOLE DAYS!  Oh my, what shall we do?  Now
assuming that half the population are entertaining the other half of the
population at such times, why does the ENTIRE population have to go mad
filling trolleys with food and drink they'd never normally consider
buying?  And yes, it's the same with bread and milk and basics as soon
as there's a flake of snow.  The shops are open, but you try and buy a
loaf of bread or a pint of milk and you quickly discover that the entire
stock of such things for miles around has been panic bought by eejits
who can't use their brains for more than five seconds at a time.

I had to laugh - albeit not at the time - not so long back when it was
reported on the news that there was the remote possibility of a strike
by fuel tanker drivers in a few days' time but that there would be no
petrol shortage.  No petrol shortage??  The newsreaders reckoned without
the Great British Public.  I drove to three filling stations that same
evening with an almost empty tank before I managed to persuade one to
let me fill up.  They were all having to close because of the queues of
people putting a few gallons in their tanks 'just in case'.  And in the
end of course the strike didn't happen anyway...

Oh world.

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