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clifto - 17 Feb 2006 21:38 GMT
We just got word that one of our cats has lymphoma. A biopsy of a lump under
his gum came back as intermediate grade submucosal lymphoma, which is more
likely a metastasis than a primary cancer.

Our cats are more than children to us, and this is an extreme blow to me and
to my wife, especially following last year's death of the cat I loved most.

Unfortunately, because the costs of my cancer treatment have hit us so hard,
we probably won't be able to afford to extend his life. (Please don't read
this as an appeal for money, it's just part of the story. Don't send money
unless you can postpone the purchase of your Testarossa for a month.)

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alex - 17 Feb 2006 22:49 GMT
Animals don't tolerate extended treatment, and they don't understand what is
going on. Sometimes, letting them go is the kindest treatment. Sorry to hear
about you cat. My cat was my buddy during treatment. Alex
Bob Allison - 18 Feb 2006 00:26 GMT
> Animals don't tolerate extended treatment, and they don't understand what is
> going on. Sometimes, letting them go is the kindest treatment. Sorry to hear
> about you cat. My cat was my buddy during treatment. Alex

I can only second everything you wrote.  I have a 12 yr old cat. He slept
with me.

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J - 18 Feb 2006 00:49 GMT
> We just got word that one of our cats has lymphoma. A biopsy of a lump under
> his gum came back as intermediate grade submucosal lymphoma, which is more
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Unfortunately, because the costs of my cancer treatment have hit us so hard,
> we probably won't be able to afford to extend his life.

I'm sorry to hear that, clifto and I can relate.
I've a similar but different, in some ways, situation here, not enough money for
diagnostics even (minimum $1500- $2,000). Vet thinks it's cancer.

I was thinking that lymphoma and chemo doesn't sound too bad (for your cat) here

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1446&S=1&SourceID=42
but when I look at the survival statistics and disease-free interval, it hardly
warrants putting a cat through that unfortunately.
My thoughts are with you and your kitty.
J
figgertoes - 18 Feb 2006 01:01 GMT
> We just got word that one of our cats has lymphoma. A biopsy of a lump under
> his gum came back as intermediate grade submucosal lymphoma, which is more
> likely a metastasis than a primary cancer.

I am so sorry, clifto. I truly understand about your relationship with
kitties as ours is similar.  Figaro was Sock's special cancer buddy
until he got cancer too & died.

Figaro tolerated a number of surgeries well.  We took him to CSU vet
hospital - best in state.  Took human chemo meds.  I didn't understand
or wasn't told that the cancer would continue to recur (or maybe no one
knew).  From that experience, even if we had the $$, unless prognosis
was excellent, I would not do this again.

Give kitty your love; he trusts your decision.  If prolonging life, not
cure is the expected outcome, I'd make quality priority #1.

My thoughts are with you as you go through this.

(((clifto))) (((precious kitty)))
Fig
Lorelei - 22 Feb 2006 18:08 GMT
>> We just got word that one of our cats has lymphoma. A biopsy of a lump
>> under
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> (((clifto))) (((precious kitty)))
> Fig

Best wishes for your kitty. I couldn't have made it this far without my
kibby, Buster. he isn't even bitter that I got him a buddy and then got a
dog too. he's amazing. seems like pets can be very, very important at times
of prolonged stress, like illness, like cancer.

My cousin is very devoted to her two cats. she got them from my baby sister
15+ yrs ago. they are her babies. she cleans the box 3-4 times per day,
gives Tara her insulin. watches maggie's diet for her hyperthyroidism.I know
at least one of them has had heart surgery, she's moved those cats with her
from Minneapolis, MN USA to London, England, to Denver, CO USA and back to
Maple Grove, MN USA.
some people in the family judge that (depression era aunts and uncles) but
she has never been able to have kids and never been married. now 40. Her and
I are going to move in together and be old together.
Figgertoes - 23 Feb 2006 03:24 GMT
>>> We just got word that one of our cats has lymphoma. A biopsy of a
>>> lump under
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> she has never been able to have kids and never been married. now 40.
> Her and I are going to move in together and be old together.

Hope you're not planning to be old together anytime soon...you have a lot
more life ahead!

This seems to be kitty week.  I accidently cut my 22 year old's skin
while trimming mats this morning. 2nd time I've done that.  His skin is
like tissue paper. I was very, very sorry & am sorrier still now that
I've seen/paid the bill.  $629 to stitch kitty up!  Well, due to age,
there are all kinds of additional tests & expenses.  8 minutes to stitch;
15  to deal with remaining mats.  I know what I want to be when I grow
up!  Stitch removal is gratis...
Fig
Alayne - 18 Feb 2006 10:47 GMT
> We just got word that one of our cats has lymphoma. A biopsy of a lump
> under
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> this as an appeal for money, it's just part of the story. Don't send money
> unless you can postpone the purchase of your Testarossa for a month.)

I am really sorry to hear your news Clifto.  To many of us a pet is part of
our family and therefore their illness affects us just as badly.

I think that even if you had the available funds, it would still come down
to whether it would be a kind decision to go ahead with treatment.

Warm Hugs

Alayne
maryanne kehoe - 20 Feb 2006 05:02 GMT
Alayne, we do have pet insurance over here. but when I looked into it
for 2 dogs and a cat (for a friend of mine), the cost was prohibitive,
almost $700 dollars a year (didn't include deductibles.)
clifto - 21 Feb 2006 01:44 GMT
> I think that even if you had the available funds, it would still come down
> to whether it would be a kind decision to go ahead with treatment.

From what I'm reading, as many as 75% of cats tolerate chemo for lymphoma
well, with apparently significant life extension, and the rates of remission
are higher than in humans. I wouldn't torture the cat with side effects just
to assuage my own desire to keep him here a little longer.

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BobandLibby - 21 Feb 2006 13:12 GMT
I understand completely; we have two elderly pets out of our four -- a
Shepherd/Golden-Retriever mix who is 13 (very old for a large dog) and
a cat who is 15 -- and, when Bob was diagnosed with head-neck cancer,
that was one of the big thing I added to the worries -- what would we
do? We love our pets dearly and they are our good friends. I'm awfully
sorry. If I were you, I'd talk to the vet honestly and check into
whatever you can do for palliative care and payment options.  Most vets
are pretty understanding folks and he may have a direction for you to
take to ensure that, at the very least, you have an option for your pet
that isn't terribly expensive but would ensure his comfort for the rest
of his life. It isn't death so much as pain, I'm sure, that you worry
about for him.

And, no, I'm a librarian and Bob's a schoolteacher, so there are no
Testarossas here, although I did see one once.

> We just got word that one of our cats has lymphoma. A biopsy of a lump under
> his gum came back as intermediate grade submucosal lymphoma, which is more
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Therefore, no rude people are relevant.
>  -- Solomon W. Golomb
Figgertoes - 21 Feb 2006 14:18 GMT
> We just got word that one of our cats has lymphoma. A biopsy of a lump
> under his gum came back as intermediate grade submucosal lymphoma,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Don't send money unless you can postpone the purchase of your
> Testarossa for a month.)

clifto,

If you live anywhere near a university that has a vet school, you could
inquire there.  Our vet referred us there for Figaro's & a previous kitty's
surgeries. I believe they have a sliding-scale fee structure.

The larger decision - to treat or not - that's the tough one.

Fig
 
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