It's been pretty busy around home. Curt has been back home since Dec 1,
2005. Since then he has been in the hospital 3x. He has been in for
blood transfusions 2x and a bowel obstruction.
He is having a difficult time eating food (no appetite, doc says that
cancer leaches protein and now that it has stripped his limbs of muscle
his body is rejecting protein (food) so he vomits it up. and the body
also develops anorexia). His facial numbness(paralysis) is now on his
right lip and his entire chin. His memory is worse. He is very
impulsive. He also spends most of the time sleeping in his chair.
He had another blood transfusion today. 2 units. hemoglobin was 9. his
platelets are 108 so he's had a slow dripping nosebleed for about a
week.
We have an appointment for hospice to come to our house SUn at 10am. I
was told today that my insurance won't pay for any more Lupron or blood
products when he goes into hospice. So now Curt is saying no to
hospice. I assured him that if he needs a blood transfusion he will get
it. I will make it happen. I will have them bill me. I told him that I
can delay creditors better than most. I just paid off a student loan
that I took out in 1984 LOL. so we will see what they say on Sunday.
take care all
Lori
alex - 04 Feb 2006 04:27 GMT
> We have an appointment for hospice to come to our house SUn at 10am. I
> was told today that my insurance won't pay for any more Lupron or blood
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> take care all
> Lori
Sounds like hospice would be able to deal with the symptoms and make his
time remaining more comfortable. Are there Bridge programs where you live,
that is when the hospice nurses come but bill under the home care benefit.
It is tricky since the hospice has to be part of a Visiting Nurse
Association. Also some for profit hospices will take patients like your
husband since they usually have a large program therefore can afford such
treatments. Best of luck with your appointment. Alex.
Lorelei - 04 Feb 2006 04:33 GMT
Our Insurance company has been great ($2m cap per family member ), but
once you enter Hospice (I was told today) that they won't pay for
Lupron shots or blood transfusions anymore. I am going to see that if
it is comfort care (blood) if that can be covered. he isn't due for his
next Lupron for 4 months so I am not going to worry about that one til
then. I will ask about that on Sunday. thanks
J - 04 Feb 2006 09:42 GMT
> It's been pretty busy around home. Curt has been back home since Dec 1,
> 2005. Since then he has been in the hospital 3x. He has been in for
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> week.
> We have an appointment for hospice to come to our house SUn at 10am.
Hello Lori,
I've been thinking of you all.
I know you'll do what's best for Curt. I know you'll treasure every day.
Thank you for update.
( ( ( Lori, Curt and family ) ) )
J
Steve Kramer - 04 Feb 2006 12:19 GMT
Thanks, Lori. I know this is difficult, but you do some of us a great
service. This site has always been great in providing information on how to
beat the bastard. But, some of us are going to lose in the end and none
that I can recall have discussed the end times.

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Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
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EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
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> It's been pretty busy around home. Curt has been back home since Dec 1,
> 2005. Since then he has been in the hospital 3x. He has been in for
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> take care all
> Lori
Justin Case - 04 Feb 2006 20:36 GMT
: It's been pretty busy around home. Curt has been back home since Dec 1,
: 2005. Since then he has been in the hospital 3x. He has been in for
: blood transfusions 2x and a bowel obstruction.
<Remainder snipped>
I haven't forgotten you, Lori, nor Curt or you son. My prayers are with you
all.
Ken Bland
John Loomis - 05 Feb 2006 00:56 GMT
Hello Lorelei,
I appreciate your sharing of this set of events with all of us here on
the News Group. I am saddened by the direction of the disease, and the
problems surrounding it.
What can I say.
You are quite a warrior.
I give you my thoughts, and wishes.
Thank You, and hopefully there may be light at the end of a long tunnel.
John Loomis
> It's been pretty busy around home. Curt has been back home since Dec 1,
> 2005. Since then he has been in the hospital 3x. He has been in for
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> take care all
> Lori
turtletrot1 - 05 Feb 2006 21:03 GMT
> that my insurance won't pay for any more Lupron or blood
> products when he goes into hospice. So now Curt is saying no to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> take care all
> Lori
Lori, whenFranzi was in the hospital and we were coming to a place
where insurance would not cover (I believe it ws the X number of cays
or X $ for Hospice since he was not under Medicare) the doctor told me
not to worry, that there are ways and resources and all would be taken
care of. Have an open and earnest talk with your physician who is on
staff and see just what is open to you. You have our blessings and
prayers.
Alan Meyer - 08 Feb 2006 02:53 GMT
Thank you very much for posting this update. You are a real
trooper Lori and Curt and your children are lucky to have you.
There reaches a point where further treatment just prolongs
the suffering without providing any more good time for the
patient.
Perhaps your doctor can give you a knowledgeable estimate
of how much time Curt has and how his disease will progress.
Perhaps he can advise you about whether there is any point
in further treatment or whether hospice care is the best thing
for him at this time.
A good hospice may be able to provide very good pain relief
and also take care of Curt's physical needs - making life
easier for him and for you and the kids.
My heart goes out to you and Curt.
Alan
Lorelei - 11 Feb 2006 02:37 GMT
I agree. Hospice Rn and social worker came yesterday to get more things
settled. Curt's nosebleed worsened while they were there and we decided
to go get him checked. We (they) didn't even know who we were supposed
to call or where to go. Finally one of them called Dr Bloom Onc. and he
said go to Monticello ER and get his nose packed and get a CBC
(complete blood count). His Hemoglobin was 7.4!!! and Platelets 50,000.
these are very low especially considering that he got 2 units of blood
6 days prior.
Packing his nose was horrible and I had them sedate him for that. They
gave him 2 units of whole blood last evening and this am his hgb
(hemoglobin) was 7 again. they were going to discharge him but I asked
them to keep him while I worked a 16 hr shift today. I am going back to
the hospital (slept there last night) and they gave him 2 more units
today. I will have to call Hospice in the morning and have them come
set some stuff up. The doc (not our usual one) said that Curt's bone
marrow is shot from all the radiation and he is making antibodies that
are destroying his red blood cells. His body is starting to shut down
and that soon all he will want is to be sedated. He has been all day
today this doctor met Curt a few weeks ago when he had his bowel
obstruction and he says that this isn't the same man he met then. Curt
had drive and determination . had to get out so he could work. today he
doesn't care about anything but floating. and I am going to let him. .
Outside time period left . at the most 8 weeks.
Sam (14) was in the adolescent psych unit from Monday pm until
Wednesday noon because he was suicidal. He had 2 plans. shoot himself
with Curt's pistol or od with curt's drugs. He is now with my family.
he doesn't want to come home right now.. I can't get him in any place
for treatment for 3-4 weeks. I've asked my brother to feel him out as
far as staying with him for a while. I don't want him to feel like my
2nd choice. so complicated. basement master suite is lsess than 2 weeks
from done. could be done in 7-10 days if everyone's schedule works.
take care all and love each other.
Justin Case - 11 Feb 2006 18:06 GMT
: I agree. Hospice Rn and social worker came yesterday to get more things
: settled. Curt's nosebleed worsened while they were there and we decided
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
:
: take care all and love each other.
I haven't the words to say that might offer comfort, Lori. You are
extremely brave and whether you realize it or not, you are growing in
knowledge that may be of help to others later on.
I am sorry for you, for Curt, for your son, and for others of your family
who are watching you go through all of this. I do not know if you believe
in the Bible, but God promises that He will not allow us to experience more
than we are capable of bearing. In this regard, you are stronger, no doubt,
than most of us here reading your updates.
Blessings to you and to all your loved ones,
Ken Bland
J - 13 Feb 2006 02:16 GMT
> [...]
> . His body is starting to shut down
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> doesn't care about anything but floating. and I am going to let him. .
> Outside time period left . at the most 8 weeks.
Lori, my thoughts are often with you and Curt.
> Sam (14) was in the adolescent psych unit from Monday pm until
> Wednesday noon because he was suicidal. He had 2 plans. shoot himself
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> 2nd choice. so complicated. basement master suite is lsess than 2 weeks
> from done. could be done in 7-10 days if everyone's schedule works.
I know you've got a lot on your plate right now.
Hugs
J
Lorelei - 22 Feb 2006 17:56 GMT
>I agree. Hospice Rn and social worker came yesterday to get more things
> settled. Curt's nosebleed worsened while they were there and we decided
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> take care all and love each other.
Rallied through another crisis. curt dropped out of Hospice because they
won't authorize any blood transfusions for him. according to them, they get
$3000/month to spend on Curt's care. they decide where it is spent.
Curt is not ready to give in yet and I support his decision. I guess they
also have a Palliative Care program that works differently. We are awaiting
more info on that.
He's been eating more and looking better. He is going in to the Monticello
Er to get blood drawn and a probable blood transfusion. he had a bloody nose
all week again.
Sam is finding out that there are rules everywhere you live and home ain't
so bad. Our trimmer is down in the basement right now doing the door, window
trim and the baseboards. almost downstairs and then Sam is coming home until
a spot opens up for him at St Cloud. he needs a dual program. He was out of
control yesterday evening and I was half way up to the hospital when he
finally calmed himself down.
I CAN say that since Dec, CUrt hasn't been the a.shole he had been since
shortly after his diagnosis.
Hospice left their copy of his chart at our house and I strongly recommend
that those that have any inkling that they are getting the whole truth, that
they ask to read their own chart. His prostate biospy showed extremely
disorganized cells. I know from my reading that that's the most aggressive.
didn't know that until now.
Brain tumors cover most of dura and also have displaced L frontal lobe brain
for a mass effect. didn't know that either. thought one big one and a
scattered smaller ones.
Doctor has a bad opinion of curt based on faulty information that he has
never had clarified or asked about. I read it in chart.
best wishes to all. thanks for the vent time yet again.
Lori

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turtletrot1 - 23 Feb 2006 16:57 GMT
You and Sam are in our hearts and prayers. The strength the two of you
have amazes me. I hope Sam realizes that you need him as much if not
more than he needs you. Blessings.