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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / January 2006Natural Products That Help Rejuvenate Every Aspect Of The Body And Help You Live longer and Healthier
As I have been reading more and more about nutrition, health and wellness, I have begun to realize how diverse the human body really is. There are so many different parts and systems to the body you could imagine how many different places the body could fail. From the immune system to you toe nails, there are many opportunities for upkeep in/on the body. I recently began a business of distribution of Natural Health and Wellness Products for the interior and exterior parts of the body produced by Herbalife. As I use more and more of the products, I quickly begin to see the wonderful results. I have started a weight control program that has drastically increased my health, leveling out my weight, drastically increasing my energy, helping me get the most out of my sleep (regulating the sleep/wake cycle and promoting relaxation for better sleep) and just making me feel better in general. Even my wife, who was against the whole thing to begin with has taken a change of heart. 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Also for any guidance you many need for yourself or even gifts for loved ones please feel free to email, danjgrillo@theonlinebusiness.com, or call (888-289-7495) me and I will help get the right products for the right person. In a time when there are so many things that can contribute to the deterioration and breaking down of your body (i.e. pollution, preservatives in food, second hand smoke, hormones in fruits and other foods, even drinking water is not always pure) these products can be a breath of fresh air and help purify and detoxify your body on a daily basis, starting at the cellular level. Start living a healthier life. I would love to talk to anybody interested in learning more, or again feel free to visit the site and check out all of the products and product fact sheets. I truly get satisfaction knowing we are all doing everything possible to live the longest, healthiest lives we can for our families, children and ourselves. I hope we all get to see a ripe old age even if our environment/surroundings and even genetics are trying to prevent that. Sincerely, Dan. > Sincerely, > Dan. Get lost sincerely, Steph I think it is TIME YOU GOT LOST STEPH. YOU DON'T HAVE CANCER WHY ARE YOU HERE????????? You have been on this forum for many many years bashing anyone that has some other method of treatmet. LET THE CANCER PATIENTS DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES. Look at Odie, she now has nausea and fatigue! AND How do you support her??? by some idle chit chat???? THAT WILL NOT SAVE HER LIFE!!!!! In fact when have WORDS alone saved anyone's life. That is ALL you offer on this forum. BUT YOU DO SUPPORT the pharmaceutical companies so they get richer and make people SICKER!!!! breemorgana@yahoo.com said... > I think it is TIME YOU GOT LOST STEPH. *Yawn* There's always one... >I think it is TIME YOU GOT LOST STEPH. > YOU DON'T HAVE CANCER WHY ARE YOU HERE????????? You have been on this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > BUT YOU DO SUPPORT the pharmaceutical companies so they get richer and > make people SICKER!!!! Get a grip woman Where is your neck???? > As I have been reading more and more about nutrition, health and > wellness, I have begun to realize As I have been reading more and more of these get well quick schemes, it occurs to me that they all have the same writing style even though they claim to be from different people. danjgri...@theonlinebusiness.com wrote: > As I have been reading more and more about nutrition, health and > wellness, I have begun to realize As I have been reading more and more of these get well quick schemes, it occurs to me that they all have the same writing style even though they claim to be from different people. SCHEMES????? I don't remember any scheme. So a SCHEME saved my husband.????? Gee I better go and thank it. > danjgri...@theonlinebusiness.com wrote: >> As I have been reading more and more about nutrition, health and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > So a SCHEME saved my husband.????? > Gee I better go and thank it. And just who are you? Your first post is defending danjgrillo who does "get rich quick" and "get well quick" schemes. http://epage.com/js/mi/1799062.html http://www.inetgiant.com/addetail/?=&adid=674599 (careful, agressive popups) http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.diseases.lyme/2005-12/msg00818.html along with a bunch of others... And we are supposed to believe that your husband got a miraculous cure. Whether or not Steph established his credentials (and I believe him), I have posted under my own email since the beginning and established my credentials. A google of your email comes up zero. Apparently this is your first post. You better make yourself another new ID this one will be plonked by most everyone on this newsgroup. I say most everyone, because I will leave you up for a few days before I plonk you for amusement sake. 8. Chris Ness Jan 27, 3:58 pm show options Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer From: Chris Ness <mness...@comcast.net> - Find messages by this author Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:58:47 -0500 Local: Fri, Jan 27 2006 3:58 pm Subject: Re: Natural Products That Help Rejuvenate Every Aspect Of The Body And Help You Live longer and Healthier Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - SS wrote: > danjgri...@theonlinebusiness.com wrote: >> As I have been reading more and more about nutrition, health and >> wellness, I have begun to realize > As I have been reading more and more of these get well quick schemes, > it > occurs to me that they all have the same writing style even though they > claim to be from different people. > SCHEMES????? > I don't remember any scheme. > So a SCHEME saved my husband.????? > Gee I better go and thank it. And just who are you I posted many many times, but got terribly sick and tired of all the bashing going on about a survivor's story I deleted all of them. If you want to plonk be please do, I don't want you reading my messages any ways. 9. Chris Ness Jan 27, 3:58 pm show options And just who are you? Your first post is defending danjgrillo who does "get rich quick" and "get well quick" schemes. I am not DEFENDING anyone, I believe in Natural medicine as an alternative to stay healthy. so......what's your problem???? As for a cure for cancer, if and only if CHEMO saved him thus far, why did all 4 doctors tell us it would not help and sent him home to die???? Should we be suing them???? ----------------------------------------------------- Whether or not Steph established his credentials (and I believe him), I have posted under my own email since the beginning and established my credentials. A google of your email comes up zero. Apparently this is your first post. You better make yourself another new ID this one will be plonked by most everyone on this newsgroup. I deleted about 30 messages and I now count 21 still up. Where have you been looking? Please do plonk this email addy, I don't want you reading my posts any ways. > Whether or not Steph established his credentials (and I believe him), I > have posted under my own email since the beginning and established my > credentials. Steph wins.  SignatureIf John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin. > > Whether or not Steph established his credentials (and I believe him), I > > have posted under my own email since the beginning and established my [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, > my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin. Steph wins what???? She doesn't have Cancer. I think my husband is the one winning.......his life >> > Whether or not Steph established his credentials (and I believe him), I >> > have posted under my own email since the beginning and established my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steph wins what???? The credential comparison. > She doesn't have Cancer. Are you sure? I suspect you wouldn't know, seeing as how he's not a she. > I think my husband is the one winning.......his life God bless. SignatureIf John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin. >don't remember any scheme. >So a SCHEME saved my husband.????? >Gee I better go and thank it. SS I am glad to hear that your husband "outlasted" the prognosis given to him by his doctors. But if he was told he has a year to live, the fact that he has lived a year + a few weeks does not mean he is cured. Often patients with metatstic cancer will function well for a good amount of time, but when things start to go downhill, they go downhill fast. I am glad that you have more time than you thought with your husband, but if you let someone convince you that he has been "cured", they are doing a disservice to both of you and it's going to make the inevitable all the more difficult. Barbara . Barbara Jan 28, 11:11 am show options SS I am glad to hear that your husband "outlasted" the prognosis given to him by his doctors. But if he was told he has a year to live, the fact that he has lived a year + a few weeks does not mean he is cured. Often patients with metatstic cancer will function well for a good amount of time, but when things start to go downhill, they go downhill fast. I am glad that you have more time than you thought with your husband, but if you let someone convince you that he has been "cured", they are doing a disservice to both of you and it's going to make the inevitable all the more difficult. I am not saying he is CURED, he still has some tumor left, not sure if it is dead yet, his markers dropped from approx. 1870 last January to 197 last month. (1 yr later) When they get to 35 which is normal he will be sent to Vancouver for a test which will tell us if it is dead. I am not promoting this as a CURE for cancer, I am promoting it to cancer patients for Chemo side effects. If Immunocal/HMS 90 is shrinking his tumor PERFECT, but I know that chemo is not shrinking his tumor OR his doctors would have pushed him to do chemo from the beginning. They did NOT want to give him chemo at all. So their medical experience tells me that chemo would not have helped his tumor. Now please explain his turn around. Barbara "SS" <breemorgana@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1138573526.701558.150970 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > . Barbara > Jan 28, 11:11 am show options [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Barbara SS, It is difficult to follow what you wrote v. what you are responding to when you post as above. I left it all there. From going back through earlier posts, it looks like you are attributing what you wrote to Barbara. You sound confused. You seem to be trying to deny the tumor shrinkage due to chemo by the doctor's earlier decision not to administer chemo. Tumor shrinkage does not equal cure or necessarily change prognosis. Chemo shrank my husband's tumor to the point where it couldn't be detected, but his oncologist was careful to tell him that he was not in remission nor was the treatment curative. You might spend more time researching & asking questions of your husband's doctors. You will find many helpful links to trusted sources here, or ask your husband's doctors for direction. If you were to read some of the archives here, you could learn a lot. I did. Yes, sometimes chemo shrinks tumors when it is administered for another purpose. The effects of any treatment varies from individual to individual. When I was dealing with my husband's terminal illness, I would sometimes try to make any news good news in my mind. In the end, all that mattered was his comfort level & how that allowed him to do things he wanted to do. My husband, too, outlived his prognosis - he converted a 6-18 month prognosis into over 4 highly productive years of mostly good times. I hope your husband & you enjoy his remaining time. That's what you will remember; that's what will give you comfort. This is the wrong forum to promote (or, God forbid) try to sell 'alternative' medicines. People here are not grasping at straws but, rather, are exchanging information, learning, supporting & coming to terms with their or loved ones' illnesses. Just read our posts. This is an emotional support site. If that is not what you are looking for, there are other sites that might suit you better. And if you don't want certain people to read your posts, don't post them here! Anyone with access to a computer can read every word any of us post here. Figgertoes > You sound confused. You seem to be trying to deny the tumor shrinkage due > to chemo by the doctor's earlier decision not to administer chemo. Tumor [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You might spend more time researching & asking questions of your > husband's doctors. Well said, Fig, Hugs J > > You sound confused. You seem to be trying to deny the tumor shrinkage due > > to chemo by the doctor's earlier decision not to administer chemo. Tumor [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hugs > J Sorry but the opposite is happening, The doctors are asking my husband what HE IS DOING!!!! Link to an IN VIVO study on glutathione. HMS 90 provides to the cells. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9 261526&dopt=Abstract > Link to an IN VIVO study on glutathione. HMS 90 provides to the cells. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9 261526&dopt=Abstract It's a small study, almost 10 years old. We all know that small studies have carefully selected patients. Given the number of ovarian cancer patients/year, they've had lots of time to get it into a large cohort clinical trial and they haven't. So really you've proven nothing about the cancer except that the chemo is (according to you) shrinking a tumor and your healthcare team are puzzled about his libido and hair growth. Shrinking a tumor = response. (not a cure). J > Shrinking a tumor = response. (not a cure). > J Please show me ONE posting where I stated it CURED his cancer. Like I said I am stating that it helped prevent chemo side effects, whether it is shriking his tumor... I don't know what else would be. If the doctors KNEW the chemo would shrink his tumor than they should have had more hope and told him that chemo would definitely shrink his tumor when he was first diagnosed. >> You sound confused. You seem to be trying to deny the tumor shrinkage >> due to chemo by the doctor's earlier decision not to administer [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hugs > J Thank you, J, Since I wrote that, I've been thinking back to one of the few times during Sock's illness that I went to my own church. Every time I go there, the minister's words are aimed straight at me (I don't know why all those other people continue to come when he's talking only to me <giggle>). That morning's message was about how we are human beings who behave as though we were human doings. When we hear bad news, we think or say, "What can I do?" We (I) feel inadequate when there's really nothing we can DO to improve the situation. We (I) need to become better at just being. It's a challenge. That message hit me between the eyes. It helped me remove some of the clutter of well-intentioned but fruitless doing in favor of just being there for/with Socks, enabling his wishes, sometimes just listening. I took more of my direction from him. And there was still plenty left to do for him. It was shift in perspective for me. I should tell Dr. Roger someday how his message hit home. Fig |
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