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Working on Testimony - CO Non-Smoking Bill...

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Figgertoes - 25 Jan 2006 05:15 GMT
I am scheduled to testify before the Colorado Legislature Monday afternoon
in favor of passing a state-wide non-smoking law.  There is tremendous
support for this law, including from the restaurant association.  Still, it
is not a sure thing & the governor could veto.

Socks may testify also, via videotape.  Last year, he testified in person
(sob).  He was so sick from treatment, it was snowy, his car was in shop,
but he somehow got downtown - walked to bus stop.  That's how much he cared
about this.  Bill supporters last year were unwilling to pass a compromised
bill.  This year, we are more organized & the bill is on the fast track.

Someone recently posted the ?: are there more people with cancer today than
in the recent past, or does it just seem like it?  Of course, I know more
people with cancer from this ng, but it also seems whenever I go out to
lunch or socializing, the subject of cancer with someone's recent dx/death
comes up.  Is it just my age or my heightened awareness?  Are younger
people being dx'd with lung & other smoking-related cancers than before
(Socks dx @ 49)?  If any of that is true, does anyone have a succunct quote
from a credible source that I could use?  There are lots of stats out
there...what to use?

I plan to mention our visit to one of our most celebrated steak restaurants  
last Spring. We were paraded through the smoking bar, patrons lined up on
both sides of the aisle puffing away as we snaked through - Socks with his
liquid oxygen - to our non-smoking table.  I like that as it is both
relevant & personal. And true.

I appreciate any help.  I want to do well for Socks.  This is his dream,
his legacy.

Thank you,
Fig
Alayne - 25 Jan 2006 08:02 GMT
> I am scheduled to testify before the Colorado Legislature Monday afternoon
> in favor of passing a state-wide non-smoking law.  There is tremendous
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> Thank you,
> Fig

Good for you Fig and I am sure that Socks would be proud of you.

Warm Hugs (and keep another for watching Socks on video)

Alayne
J - 25 Jan 2006 08:39 GMT
> Someone recently posted the ?: are there more people with cancer today than
> in the recent past, or does it just seem like it?  Of course, I know more
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> from a credible source that I could use?  There are lots of stats out
> there...what to use?

Fig,
type in cancer statistics into Google.
You'll get the ACS website, the NCI website and seer website

This seems to be a summary of a report out of NCI
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=1436207
Hope this helps,
Hugs
J
Figgertoes - 25 Jan 2006 14:36 GMT
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> Fig,
> type in cancer statistics into Google.
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> Hugs
> J

Thanks, J & Alayne,

This is what I want.  I had typed similar yesterday & got quite an array.  
Want to make sure if I use data that it's from a respected source.  
Thought ACS was OK.  Haven't heard of seeer but will check out.

Last night was tough.  I went to our Sierra Club's Chapter's Website to
grab some info.  Charlie's pic was there as usual, but instead of usual
caption 'The Rocky Mountain Chapter is Mourning the loss..., it was
changed to "We miss you Charlie."  Don't know why, but that set me off.  
Still bawling this morning.

Part of me wishes I could stay home & wallow, but most of me knows I'm
better off being with people at work. Like I have a choice anyway <g>!

Alayne, I used up the video hug on this.  Thanks for replenishing, J.  If
we use the video, I'd best not watch if I am to follow.  I haven't seen
the video.  Maybe I should ask for an advance copy to screen in private.

I better get out of here before I dissolve.

Thank you both,
Hugs back,

Fig
Pen - 25 Jan 2006 15:49 GMT
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> Fig

I think getting a copy and watching it before hand would be a good idea.
Lot of hugs Fig!!
Penny
Alayne - 26 Jan 2006 07:57 GMT
> [posted and mailed]
>
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>
> Fig

Hi Fig

Sounds like I need to give you some more Hugs to keep in your pocket if you
are going to watch the video on your own.  We've got a video here that was
taken in the hospice of us four talking about cancer, it was used as part of
a project to raise cancer awareness.  It took me several months to sit and
watch and boy did I blub.  On the positive side (if there can be one) it
brought home just how ill Tony was and that it must have been a blessing for
him to pass on.

Warm Hugs

Alayne
Figgertoes - 27 Jan 2006 06:55 GMT
>> [posted and mailed]
>>
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>> usual caption 'The Rocky Mountain Chapter is Mourning the loss..., it
>> was changed to "We miss you Charlie."  Don't know why, but that set

> Hi Fig
>
> Sounds like I need to give you some more Hugs to keep in your pocket
> if you are going to watch the video on your own.

Alayne,

I could sure use some hugs for the pocket.  I'm going to wait until I
have company (probably tomorrow night) to watch.  I haven't seen the TV
since before Socks' death - probably in AR's room - but I'll just let
that remain a mystery for now.

We've got a video
> here that was taken in the hospice of us four talking about cancer, it
> was used as part of a project to raise cancer awareness.  It took me
> several months to sit and watch and boy did I blub.  On the positive
> side (if there can be one) it brought home just how ill Tony was and
> that it must have been a blessing for him to pass on.

Yes, I expect this to bring home the severity of the illness & provide
some comfort that way, like you say.  But it's also difficult to see him
that way. I'm enlarging one of his final days photos for the hearing.  
It's harder to look at a big photo like that than the smaller image.

> Warm Hugs
>
> Alayne

And more back to you,
Fig
Alayne - 27 Jan 2006 08:02 GMT
> >> [posted and mailed]
> >>
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> And more back to you,
> Fig

I read something interesting in a book only yesterday, the book is called
"The Secret of Happy Children" (well, I'll try anything once!) but it
mentions grief and sadness.

"To cry sometimes is as necessary and as natural as breathing,  Far from
making you strong, not crying actually makes you uptight, you tend to live
in the past and be hard to contact in the present.  If you know how to cry
and release sadness, you know you can handle anything.

It was discovered only this decade that when a person cries their body
releases chemicals of the endorphin family which block pain receptors, and
produce a healing anaesthesia through the worst of the anguish that loss
sometimes brings.  This chemical is present even in our tears themselves.
It's as closely related to, and as powerful as morphine."

So it really is good and cleansing and might explain why tears erupt from
nowhere when we haven't cried for a while.

When watching the video makes you really sad Fig, know that it is part of
the process and a healthy sign that you still miss your man.

Warm Hugs

Alayne
Emily - 27 Jan 2006 12:08 GMT
me@privacy.net said...
> I could sure use some hugs for the pocket.  I'm going to wait until I
> have company (probably tomorrow night) to watch.  I haven't seen the TV
> since before Socks' death - probably in AR's room - but I'll just let
> that remain a mystery for now.

Here, you'd better have a few more to go with them

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Fig}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

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Emily - 25 Jan 2006 21:58 GMT
me@privacy.net said...
> I plan to mention our visit to one of our most celebrated steak restaurants  
> last Spring. We were paraded through the smoking bar, patrons lined up on
> both sides of the aisle puffing away as we snaked through - Socks with his
> liquid oxygen - to our non-smoking table.  I like that as it is both
> relevant & personal. And true.

And emotive.  That'll go in your favour, even though it's a depressing
picture and presumably not a particularly good memory.

> I appreciate any help.  I want to do well for Socks.  This is his dream,
> his legacy.

You might want to watch the video a couple of times on your own over the
weekend, so that you don't get a shock when you see it in public.

{{{{Hugs}}}} for you from C and me; also from my elder daughter.  Oh,
and from my nearly 11 yr old as well - he's just taken part in a local
anti-drugs and alcohol initiative, which focussed heavily on 'ordinary'
smoking as well as the more 'interesting' types of weed.
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Emily

Figgertoes - 26 Jan 2006 06:28 GMT
> And emotive.  That'll go in your favour, even though it's a depressing
> picture and presumably not a particularly good memory.

We didn't let that spoil our meal, but we never returned either.

> You might want to watch the video a couple of times on your own over
> the weekend, so that you don't get a shock when you see it in public.

I pick it up tomorrow.  Will wait until a friend gets back from ski trip to
watch it with me.

> {{{{Hugs}}}} for you from C and me; also from my elder daughter.  Oh,
> and from my nearly 11 yr old as well - he's just taken part in a local
> anti-drugs and alcohol initiative, which focussed heavily on
> 'ordinary' smoking as well as the more 'interesting' types of weed.

Do they make a pledge?  They're doing that here with sex too.  When I was
10/11, I didn't no nuttin about nuttin.  Weeds - we pulled them in the
garden!  I'm happy your son is participating in the initiative.  It must be
tough growing up today.

Today was tough all over, for several reasons, so thanks for all the hugs.

Fig
alex - 26 Jan 2006 03:07 GMT
Since you are testifying at the state level, stats from the state would be
the most critical ones.
http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/pp/cccr/cccrreports.asp

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They only have stats to 2001, but I bet if you give them a call  and explain
why you want them ,you can get updated stats.  Hospitals have to report all
cancers and they should be broken out by ages and counties. Best of Luck,
Alex

Figgertoes - 26 Jan 2006 06:08 GMT
> Since you are testifying at the state level, stats from the state
> would be the most critical ones.
> http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/pp/cccr/cccrreports.asp

Thank you, Alex.  This is good.  I emailed for more recent data.  
Unfortunately for testimony but fortunately for us, CO was below national
average for lung cancer.  Declined for males but increased for females.

My coach for this says our push is protecting all employees from 2nd hand
smoke, wherever they work.  My particular testimony is to be an emotional
reminder of Socks' testimony last year & telling his story.  I am to bring
a photo (give me strength).  I think I'll use the picture of him riding his
bike in the MS150 & one of his last photos at a ball game.  I will probably
speak last, just before the vote.  I don't think I'll be going back to work
Monday afternoon.

Fig, studying
Pen - 26 Jan 2006 06:53 GMT
>> Since you are testifying at the state level, stats from the state
>> would be the most critical ones.
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>
> Fig, studying

You will be wonderful and you do make a difference. I'll be cheering you on
through my thought messages! They will hear you! It will happen!
HUGS
Penny
figgertoes - 26 Jan 2006 19:38 GMT
> You will be wonderful and you do make a difference. I'll be cheering you on
> through my thought messages! They will hear you! It will happen!
> HUGS
> Penny

Coach just showed me how anyone in the world can tune in on legislative
hearing thru internet.  We listened in on one in progress.  For me,
though, it's enough to talk to a room full of people I can see (some I
know personally- tyg) without thinking of  ears from afar tuned in.
Then again, I'd think only political junkies would care.  It's not
exactly Jay Leno!

Thanks for the vote of confidence & thought messages.  Think of 'yes'
votes - the color green.

Fig
J - 28 Jan 2006 10:03 GMT
> "alex" <alex@noemail.com> wrote in
>
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> Unfortunately for testimony but fortunately for us, CO was below national
> average for lung cancer.  Declined for males but increased for females.

That was my impression from the more recent National stats as well.
I tried the Colorado pdf and the smaller one was 66 pages - too much for this
computer.
Any update (different) from recent Colorado?
I guess it would be interesting to know if the females were homebodies and if
the success with males were peer, work and societal pressures (not as much of
that with homebodies?)
Thinking of you and your investigations.
Hugs
J
Figgertoes - 28 Jan 2006 15:46 GMT
>> "alex" <alex@noemail.com> wrote in
>>
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> Hugs
> J

Good morning, J,

Thanks for the good wishes.

There's so much info out there that my challenge is to find the point(s)
that will result in a 'yes' vote.  That's really all that counts.  We
have local organizations working toward passage of the bill, so I have
the  opportunity to run my testimony past others this w/e.

Nothing really new in CO.  Heard back the next morning from CO statistics
person saying for 2002/2003 there were 2K new lung cancers cases per year
& 1.5K deaths from.  I downloaded the pages Alex pointed me to.  They
show many kinds of cancer & an odd comparison of 1996-2000 (in a lump #)
v. 2001.  Not good presentation for trend analysis.

Thursday, CA (where else) passed ground-breaking legislation classifying
second-hand smoke as a toxic air pollutant (like diesel fuel).  Read
especially the part about young women & breast cancer.

http://tinyurl.com/8drfs

I have to think twice about whether to mention this as some people here
roll eyes in direction of CA.  There is also some bias against
Californians here as they sell their more expensive houses there & move
here, building McMansion neighborhoods that many here consider
distasteful & wasteful (& others aspire to).

Still haven't watched the Socks video.  That would prob give me some
direction.  He's so very good at political strategy. And what a mind.

Have a great w/e!
Fig
 
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