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J. Davidson - 14 Jan 2006 20:56 GMT
Does the circumcision  status of the male partner have anything to do with
vaginal cancer in the female?
Jackie
Steph - 14 Jan 2006 23:09 GMT
> Does the circumcision  status of the male partner have anything to do with
> vaginal cancer in the female?
> Jackie

Not vaginal cancer.
The partners of uncircumcised males do have a slightly higher incidence of
cervical cancer
Anne - 15 Jan 2006 01:38 GMT
> Does the circumcision  status of the male partner have anything to do with
> vaginal cancer in the female?
> Jackie

No. DES daughters have a higher risk for vaginal cancer.

Anne
Emily - 15 Jan 2006 13:30 GMT
bottina@tiscali.nl said...

> > Does the circumcision  status of the male partner have anything to do with
> > vaginal cancer in the female?
> > Jackie
>
> No. DES daughters have a higher risk for vaginal cancer.

What is DES?
Chris Ness - 15 Jan 2006 13:46 GMT
> bottina@tiscali.nl said...
>>
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> What is DES?

diethylstilbestrol - originally given in the fifties and sixties to prevent
spontaneous abortion in mothers who had previously had miscarriages. Is
generally believed to cause vaginal or cervical cancer in 1:1000 daughters
borne of those mothers. (source CDC)

Now it is the subject of a number of lawsuits by women who might have died
in uetero and are not thankful for even being alive and may not even be one
of the 1/10% affected. (cynicism raises its ugly head again from a citizen
of a country that produces more lawyers than doctors.)
Emily - 15 Jan 2006 17:32 GMT
mness215@comcast.net said...

> >> DES daughters have a higher risk for vaginal cancer.
> >>
> > What is DES?
>
> diethylstilbestrol - originally given in the fifties and sixties to prevent
> spontaneous abortion in mothers who had previously had miscarriages.

Does it have a more pronounceable name?  My mother had difficultly
carrying...

> Is
> generally believed to cause vaginal or cervical cancer in 1:1000 daughters
> borne of those mothers. (source CDC)

I shall ask mother.  Not that the knowledge will change anything, but in
the event of a problem in the future it could be useful to know.

> Now it is the subject of a number of lawsuits by women who might have died
> in uetero and are not thankful for even being alive and may not even be one
> of the 1/10% affected. (cynicism raises its ugly head again from a citizen
> of a country that produces more lawyers than doctors.)

*Might* have died??  0.1% chance of developing cancer as a result?  
Ruddy 'eck.  These people need to get a life.  Or rather, since they
clearly have one, they need to start appreciating the one they've got.  
Morons, the lot of 'em.  It would never occur to me to sue someone for
doing their best and acting according to the received wisdom of the day,
and I completely fail to understand those to do.  I also thoroughly
resent the fact that we in the UK have 'had' to introduce much in the
way of pointless legislation simply because of the sheer stupidity and
selfishness/greed of ye general publik.  Perhaps on second thoughts I
won't bother asking mother after all.  I don't reckon it's sufficiently
important.

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Chris Ness - 15 Jan 2006 17:37 GMT
> mness215@comcast.net said...
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> Does it have a more pronounceable name?  My mother had difficultly
> carrying...

DES
Emily - 15 Jan 2006 17:55 GMT
mness215@comcast.net said...

> > mness215@comcast.net said...
> >>
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>
> DES

<G> Ask a silly question...
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clifto - 15 Jan 2006 19:31 GMT
> diethylstilbestrol - originally given in the fifties and sixties to prevent
> spontaneous abortion in mothers who had previously had miscarriages. Is
> generally believed to cause vaginal or cervical cancer in 1:1000 daughters
> borne of those mothers. (source CDC)

And yet it seems to help advanced cases of prostate cancer.

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Emily - 15 Jan 2006 19:56 GMT
clifto@clifto.com said...
> > diethylstilbestrol - originally given in the fifties and sixties to prevent
> > spontaneous abortion in mothers who had previously had miscarriages. Is
> > generally believed to cause vaginal or cervical cancer in 1:1000 daughters
> > borne of those mothers. (source CDC)
>
> And yet it seems to help advanced cases of prostate cancer.

The same sort of thing can be said of Thalidomide.  Used for the
'wrong' thing it caused chaos and heartbreak; used for the 'right' thing
it's helping people.
matt weber - 18 Jan 2006 08:37 GMT
>bottina@tiscali.nl said...
>>
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>>
>What is DES?
Diethyl Silbesterone, A synthetic estrogen given to pregnant women
thought to be at risk of miscarriage in the 1950's and early 1960's.
It didn't prevent miscarriages, but does produce a truly alarming
increase in the incidence of reproductive tract cancers in the
offspring!  
 
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