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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / January 2006Hms 90
do you guys know hms 90. it is a great product to fight against suffering and reduc hair fall off. my cousin suffered from breast cancer and hms 90 helped her recovering very fast. it is amazing what this product can do. I recommend. i did not believe first but when i suggest this to my cousin i was surprised to see the benefic. if anybody would like more info. let me know. jiji > do you guys know hms 90. it is a great product to fight against suffering > and reduc hair fall off. my cousin suffered from breast cancer and hms 90 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > know. > jiji Hello, Since you offered, do us a favour, please and find if it's in clinical trial (for hairgrowth) here (because a clinical trial/testimonial of one person - your cousin - isn't very helpful). nccam.nih.gov/clinicaltrials/factsheet/ That webpage is down at the moment, but that would be the place to search. So keep trying. There's either a search box or lists alphabetically. It would be interesting to see a 3-arm trial : all particiapants would have had the same chemo, for the same length of time, same dose but: one arm would have had the hms90, one arm nothing, and one arm a different (but probably less expensive) nutritional supplement and see if there was a clear winner on how many patients hair grew back faster. Penny's hair's just been growing back, so it takes time and she never took any of that hms90. I sure hope you're not here trying to sell that product. We've heard enough from them, in the past, to last a lifetime and they had no clinical trials except I did find one for IIRC,HIV (wasting syndrome). J the answer is yes. anyway I left a message to the president of the company and he should get back to me with more info for you. in the mean time you can visit their site www.immunotec.ca/pierrepleau. if you want to order the product you can do it right from this site. I take vitamin, calcium and hms 90 everyday . I will get back to you soon. you know I am a client and very satisfied from the product but i would like to help you because i saw what hms90 can do. by the way it is recommended also in general hospital and McGill I guess for those who has cancer. take care >> do you guys know hms 90. it is a great product to fight against suffering >> and reduc hair fall off. my cousin suffered from breast cancer and hms 90 [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > J hmmmm... somehow this doesn't pass my smell test. Mel > the answer is yes. anyway I left a message to the president of the company > and he should get back to me with more info for you. in the mean time you [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> >> J > hmmmm... somehow this doesn't pass my smell test. I was skeptical, too. Do a web search on hms90.  SignatureIf John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin. > > hmmmm... somehow this doesn't pass my smell test. > > I was skeptical, too. Do a web search on hms90. That company's "distributors" have been pests here for years, even going so far as to "harass" Steph into wanting to meet with him. Strongly suggest plonking the poster if she comes here with "documenttion" from the company. We've been down that road before (over and over, very persistant and aggressive people to the point of the claimed owners coming here)... Plonk the name of the company as well, if possible, when seen in the body of a message. J The smell test is more accurate than a PSA or CEA test!! mEL >> > hmmmm... somehow this doesn't pass my smell test. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > J >> I was skeptical, too. Do a web search on hms90. > > That company's "distributors" have been pests here for years, even going so > far as to "harass" Steph into wanting to meet with him. > Strongly suggest plonking the poster if she comes here with "documenttion" > from the company. Maybe I'm gullible, but when I ran across the American College of Chest Physicians (apparently associated with Stanford U) referring to its use in <http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/117/3/914>, it occurred to me that there might be something substantial about it. SignatureIf John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin. > >> I was skeptical, too. Do a web search on hms90. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > in <http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/117/3/914>, it occurred > to me that there might be something substantial about it. I have a headache <g> She was posting about hair growth. Ironjustice posts about the same product/ingredient from PubMed, but who can figure out what he's posting. And do we want him here, "razzing" every patient/post? Yours is about COPD and sounds like it might help people who have had lung cancer/treatments ; however I found this (also about COPD) http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/gui/show/NCT00159341 search on "reduced". I think we need a lung specialist to tell us what each is saying. Fact: the Charter says "must have passed Phase IV" trials, but if we say "it helps in recovery', then we open the floodgates to people who make money off selling these things and have had enormous problems with such on this and other products before. So maybe there needs to be a lung newsgroup? There's one for asthma. But an expert there, ran one of the salesperson's off there last September. In the end, Clifto, that's a report about one person who was also on steroids. That's not a clinical trial. I would think it takes an expert in lung function to interpret the web pages that we've posted and/or results of clinical trials before saying it's okay to make such claims here? J > In the end, Clifto, that's a report about one person who was also on steroids. > That's not a clinical trial. > I would think it takes an expert in lung function to interpret the web pages that > we've posted and/or results of clinical trials before saying it's okay to make > such claims here? You're right, of course. My first reaction was that they were selling Tahitian Noni Juice or something, but then when I found reference to it in a real- looking medical document I let it go without further research. SignatureIf John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin. Clifto: Case Study Review is the first step in a finding new treatments. As a cancer patient I find them interesting since often that would be the doctor I would want treating me since there is an interest in that particular cancer. Obviously most of us don't have the time or resources to travel for extended treatment but often an email to the author would point you in the direction of our physicians in the field closer to your home and often the author will update if further research is being done or it was not worth pursuing. The point being it is not a cure all paper, but often can get you more information. Alex Hi I am new to this newsgroup, but am not new to HMS 90. 1 year ago my husband was diagnosed with liver cancer(20cm growth of tumors in left lobe) that metastisized to his bowels and diaphragm. They said he only has 2 months to a maximum of 1 yr to live. I knew I would have to seek alternative medicine for his survival. He has survived past his 1 yr anniversary on January 12/06. And is doing very very well. The doctors now call him a miracle. So do we!! I can guarantee ALL of you the ONLY reason he is alive today is from HMS 90. I too was skeptical but had nothing to lose except my husband. The skeptics should research and TRY it before attacking someone for selling a product I have personally seen SAVE A LIFE! Anyone that sells anything will make some money, what is the problem? I believe it is called marketing. Modern medicine does not cure any disease it only treats the symptoms. I only promote this because I want everyone that has cancer to have similar results to what he did. No I cannot guarantee every single person will react the same, but what has anyone got to lose besides their LIFE?? It is an all natural product with NO side effects. NO Doctor can guarantee you anything, except in my husband's case they did guarantee DEATH!!!!! THIS PRODUCT WORKS!!!!!!! I have a lot more to tell. BUT will not waste my time typing on this page. There are too many WOLVES waiting to pounce. If any of you are SERIOUSLY interested and want to hear how it helped him. You can email me breemorgana@yahoo.com Thank you SS > Clifto: > Case Study Review is the first step in a finding new treatments. As a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > information. > Alex > I am new to this newsgroup, but am not new to HMS 90. > 1 year ago my husband was diagnosed with liver cancer(20cm growth of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > He has survived past his 1 yr anniversary on January 12/06. And is > doing very very well. The doctors now call him a miracle. So do we!! Which BC Cancer Agency did he attend? J Kelowna BC > 1 year ago my husband was diagnosed with liver cancer(20cm growth of > tumors in left lobe) that metastisized to his bowels and diaphragm. > They said he only has 2 months to a maximum of 1 yr to live. > I knew I would have to seek alternative medicine for his survival. Desperate people do desperate things. > He has survived past his 1 yr anniversary on January 12/06. And is > doing very very well. The doctors now call him a miracle. Prognosticating is not an exact science. We've had people with advanced colon cancer live for 2 or 3 years and some for 4 or 5 months. The liver is the 2nd largest organ in the body, a good part of your husband's liver is still functioning. J J Why don't you tell the 1 doctor and 3 specialists this. They sent him home to DIE without even suggesting chemo, in fact there IS NO CHEMO available in Canada for Liver cancer. He was offered pancreatic chemo because we persisted he try some type of chemo Like I said to TT If either one of you were my husband you would be DEAD. > Why don't you tell the 1 doctor and 3 specialists this. > They sent him home to DIE without even suggesting chemo, in fact there > IS NO CHEMO available in Canada for Liver cancer. See the BC Cancer Agency web page (below) I think they probably told him (or you) that there's no chemo that will cure his cancer. That is true. > He was offered > pancreatic chemo because we persisted he try some type of chemo Gemzar? Most treatments in North America now for advanced cancers are palliative in intent. J http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/TypesofCancer/Liver/default.htm Primary Carcinoma Of Liver Surgery is the only way to cure primary liver cancer Surgical treatment most likely to succeed with a solitary tumour confined to one lobe that can be entirely removed Unfortunately most often the malignancy has spread through the liver and cannot be removed The liver may already be extensively damaged by cirrhosis or other disease Radiation is primarily used to manage painful bone metastases Chemotherapy and radiation are sometimes helpful in relieving symptoms (that's palliation) Chemotherapy is usually with DOXORUBICIN or 5-FLUOROURACIL which will sometimes relieve symptoms > J > Why don't you tell the 1 doctor and 3 specialists this. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Like I said to TT > If either one of you were my husband you would be DEAD. You really need to get your facts straight. My understanding was that this is LUNG cancer, with liver mets..........that isn't liver cancer. There is plenty of "chemo available" in Canada for liver mets from lung cancer, but it doesn't work very well. If my husband did NOT do something to help himself he would be DEAD. People are at this forum to find ALTERNATIVE methods/medicine and support for this disease. They are NOT here so that SKEPTICS can destroy any hope they may have to try to SAVE their own lives. > If my husband did NOT do something to help himself he would be DEAD. > People are at this forum to find ALTERNATIVE methods/medicine and > support for this disease. > They are NOT here so that SKEPTICS can destroy any hope they may have > to try to SAVE their own lives. "Alternative medicine is the use of unproven methods to diagnose and treat disease by persons who are unqualified to diagnose and treat disease." We support people, not people who've lost their minds, because they're so desperate. Most people who come here with your attitude eventually settle down. We've heard them all (all the claims over the years). For every 100 cancers cured, surgery cures about 50, radiotherapy about 40 and chemotherapy at best 10. That's just the way it is..... Steph's "Questions to Ask" http://tinyurl.com/4akk6 Print it up. J J Do you have cancer???? Snippet: "We support people, not people who've lost their minds, because they're so desperate." Words WILL NOT CURE THEM!!!!! Yes we were desperate because modern medicine told him to go and DIE. I am assuming YOU would go home and DIE. He is ALIVE and doing excellent. Thanks to Alternative medicine. What else can I say. > What else can I say. goodbye? J you never answered my question. DO YOU HAVE CANCER???? Oh yes My husband THANKS YOU SO MUCH for not being his wife. HE would be DEAD thanks to you. > Oh yes > My husband THANKS YOU SO MUCH for not being his wife. > HE would be DEAD thanks to you. Madam, you need to get a grip, and lay off the caps key > If my husband did NOT do something to help himself he would be DEAD. > People are at this forum to find ALTERNATIVE methods/medicine and > support for this disease. > They are NOT here so that SKEPTICS can destroy any hope they may have > to try to SAVE their own lives. You can't assume that some silly alty product did anything. I'm very happy your husband is alive, but it's in spite of HMS 90, not because of it Why are there so many skeptics on this site???? I really believe the skeptics don't even have cancer, or they would TRY ANYTHING to stay alive. Because by that time nothing else matters anymore except to save your life. Call it what you will, Desperation or whatever. That I know is a fact, since I have lived through it. Now that we have discovered an amazing product, some of you want to call me a liar. Are you truly in this forum to help or just to be critical and attack a survivor??? US patent http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/n etahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%275,888,552%27.WKU.&OS=PN/5,888,552&RS=PN/5 ,888,552 The doctors told him to go home and die. HMS 90 does detoxify, that is why he is withstanding 12 months of chemo and still taking it. The onc told him most people can only withstand 6 months of chemo. He has a full head of hair, that fell out at the beginning and grew back after starting HMS 90. Find me ONE single patient still on chemo that had their hair grow back, or gained 50 lbs, no nausea, no vomiting, no infections, normal blood work, decreasing tumor markers, decreased tumors, increased libido, increased lean muscle mass. The ONLY side effect he says he has is slight fatigue. If this is what HMS 90 can do for him, why can't it work for other victims??? Why won't "Steph, J or TT" allow them the option to try it, without bashing it? so sad :( > Why are there so many skeptics on this site???? > I really believe the skeptics don't even have cancer, or they would > TRY ANYTHING to stay alive. Because by that time nothing else matters > anymore except to save your life. I just had to comment on this. I have terminal lung cancer. I would be willing to participate in anything that would change that dx. I would not however, pay for something that has not gone through the proper testing. If this is so great, then why don't they do the testing required to prove that it really works? Is it because it would not past the test? When I am approached with the "cure" and the be all and end all treatments that cures everything, that is the question I ask. If you truly have the "cure", then prove it. Do the testing that proves to the world that this works, spend the money and the time. Once you have done that, then I'll give you my money. I don't need anyone telling me what to believe or not believe......... the proof is in the willingness to spend the money and time to do the proper research. I may be sick but that doesn't make me stupid.............. Penny Sorry to hear about your lung cancer. We too did not know which treatments to try, all of his friends and family told us about every single cure out there. We did try other stuff, but none of it had proof that it detoxified the body. It would only make sense then that it would aid in stopping chemo side effects, since it is a poison and kills every cell in your body. THere has been numerous testing done on HMS 90/Immunocal and it has 6 patents in the US and 5 in Canada plus some international ones. Here is a web link to a study done, it is hard to understand, but most studies are if you are not familiar with medical terminology. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=11525598&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum I don't have much time I must run to work, but I hope this helps. THere are other studies on the pubmed website. Type in IMMUNOCAL. Actually here is a web link to the Physician's desk reference in the US about Immunocal http://www.drugs.com/PDR/Immunocal_Powder_Sachets.html Immunocal is also listed in the Pharmacist's red book in the US. > Actually here is a web link to the Physician's desk reference Have your physican check his. If it's in there, it should be under your provincial medication plan. J > Actually here is a web link to the Physician's desk reference in the US > about Immunocal > > http://www.drugs.com/PDR/Immunocal_Powder_Sachets.html > > Immunocal is also listed in the Pharmacist's red book in the US. I especially like this bit: "this product is thus not intended to diagnose, cure, prevent or treat any disease" > Here is a web link to a study done, it is hard to understand, but most > studies are if you are not familiar with medical terminology. [..snipped PubMed study.] For a claimed "medical professional", you don't read too good. That's in-vitro. There's millions of PubMed studies that claim to have anti-cancer (or other) properties. The proof would be in clinical trials. Here's what clinical trials look like http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/gui/show/NCT00109577 In fact, that's a nutritional supplement trial, Phase II - in Canada/Alberta. If this company that you keep "spamming" here, wants to be taken seriously, all they have to do is get their product(s) into clinical trials (in the US or Canada). As you said yourself, "representatives" (read: distributors) have harrassed this newsgroup for many years and the answer will always be the same. Get it into clinical trials. They've had the time. They have not gotten it into clinical trials. They've posted about since 1995. They can't be too serious, since they haven't enrolled in clincial trials (yet). If they have, show us and the webpage must start with http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ (and that's where to search for their products or here) http://nccam.nih.gov/clinicaltrials/ (complementary products) Clinical trials are medical research studies designed to answer specific questions about new therapies, procedures, or treatments, by testing them in people. This carefully conducted research helps to determine if the therapy is safe and effective. http://prsinfo.clinicaltrials.gov/ Registration of Clinical Trials J J wrote If this company that you keep "spamming" here, wants to be taken seriously, all they have to do is get their product(s) into clinical trials (in the US or Canada). Here is an IN VITRO study of Immunocal http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9 261526&dopt=Abstract > J wrote > If this company that you keep "spamming" here, wants to be taken [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9 261526&dopt=Abstract In vitro, sodium hypochlorite kills cancer cells. Clinical trials, please. SignatureIf John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin. > > Here is an IN VITRO study of Immunocal > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Clinical trials, please. Sorry I forgot clifto does NOT READ well. I should have said IN VIVO. I just assumed he would read the study before responding. > Sorry to hear about your lung cancer. > We too did not know which treatments to try, all of his friends and > family told us about every single cure out there. > We did try other stuff, but none of it had proof that it detoxified the > body. Neither does HMS 90 > It would only make sense then that it would aid in stopping chemo > side effects, since it is a poison and kills every cell in your body. If it killed every cell in your body............ > THere has been numerous testing done on HMS 90/Immunocal and it has 6 > patents in the US and 5 in Canada plus some international ones. Patents mean nothing. > Here is a web link to a study done, it is hard to understand, but most > studies are if you are not familiar with medical terminology. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=11525598&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum The study shows that in the experimental system, the chemo killed MORE cells, so by your reasoning, it makes the chemo worse... > I don't have much time I must run to work, but I hope this helps. > THere are other studies on the pubmed website. Type in IMMUNOCAL. POINTLESS. I am sooooooo glad I never found this forum prior to my husband's using HMS 90 HE WOULD BE DEAD. I do have proof, in fact living proof. (my husband.) > POINTLESS. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I do have proof, in fact living proof. (my husband.) I'm really glad your husband is doing well. It's just sad that you are so blind to the reasons. >> POINTLESS. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'm really glad your husband is doing well. > It's just sad that you are so blind to the reasons.\ SS: You know, I had a younger cousin with 3 beautiful children, ages 8 to 12. She believed in the so called miracle cures after she found out that she had ovarian cancer. In fact she was so sure after reading and listening to people like you that she is dead now. I still get very angry when I read stuff like this because of that. There was no need for her to die. Instead of listening to the likes of you she should of been listening to a reputable doctor. She would still be alive today. Penny You are right, there is a ton of useless stuff out there and we tried some of them. However, when his HAIR GREW BACK after FALLING out taking chemo, I knew there had to be something to HMS 90. Like my previous posts have stated (4 doctors sent him home to die) what other choice did we have?????? .I am truly sorry I wasted my time and yours. I should have been spending it with MY HUSBAND!!!! > "SS" <breemorgana@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > POINTLESS. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I'm really glad your husband is doing well. > It's just sad that you are so blind to the reasons. Well, she's acting like an MLM distributor here. However, if she gave her husband's last name and initial and the onc's name, would you call him/her up? What if (s)he's (the onc) has a small group of patients, same diagnosis, same chemo and only one (her husband) is tolerating the treatment well (due to the HMS) and tumors are responding to treatment? J >> "SS" <breemorgana@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> > POINTLESS. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > name, > would you call him/her up? Absolutely not. The onc isn't the problem. > What if (s)he's (the onc) has a small group of patients, same diagnosis, > same > chemo and only one (her husband) is tolerating the treatment well (due to > the > HMS) and tumors are responding to treatment? > J Gemcitabine is the standard therapy, and most people tolerate it very well. It's clear that this silly woman has lost all power of reason. Steph You already told me you don't have cancer. So .....??? I don't believe you truly understand a miracle when you see one. Do you believe in God???? Steph Gemcitabine is NOT the standard therapy. I really wish you would get your facts straight. WE WERE NOT OFFERED ANY CHEMO. I insisted and the onc offered 2 types. Stomach OR Gemticabine. WE CHOSE Gemcitabine because it was a newer drug. PERIOD! > Steph > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I insisted and the onc offered 2 types. Stomach OR Gemticabine. > WE CHOSE Gemcitabine because it was a newer drug. PERIOD! Get a grip Oh Steph Am I getting under your skin???? Good!!!! > Oh Steph > > Am I getting under your skin???? > > Good!!!! I still don't care what you say. Your constant combativeness shows you to be a scam with an agenda for your own purposes. You are really not here to assist those of who have/had cancer, and are trying to cope with your childishness. Please leave us alone. 36. Simm Webb Jan 28, 6:50 pm show options I still don't care what you say. Your constant combativeness shows you to be a scam with an agenda for your own purposes. You are really not here to assist those of who have/had cancer, and are trying to cope with your childishness. Please leave us alone. Please show me a posting asking ANY of you for $$$$. The idle chit chat that all of you skeptics do, will NOT save anyone's life. What else do YOU have to offer this forum??? steph says: Absolutely not. The onc isn't the problem. Yet he did NOT want to offer chemo????? And now Stuffy Steph believes the ONLY reason my husband is alive is because of chemo???? Get real. Gee I might have a lawsuit on my hands. Any lawyers on this site???? > POINTLESS. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I do have proof, in fact living proof. (my husband.) Since your patter has been of the nature of snake oil, and we know the difference, I must doubt that you might even have a husband, much less than having one in harms way. Please take your lies elsewhere. soooooooooooo sooooooooooo sad that a SURVIVOR'S story is totally destroyed by the likes of you!!! THIS IS NOT A SUPPORT GROUP! 39. Simm Webb Jan 26, 5:31 am show options Since your patter has been of the nature of snake oil, and we know the difference, I must doubt that you might even have a husband, much less than having one in harms way. Please take your lies elsewhere. ________________- Lies lies lies????? Here is an IN VITRO study of glutathione, which HMS90 provides. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9 261526&dopt=Abstract > Here is an IN VITRO study of glutathione, which HMS90 provides. > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9 261526&dopt=Abstract> That's not in vitro - invitro means glass like a beaker or a petri dish. That was in humans (in vivo) "One hundred fifty-one patients with ovarian cancer (stage I-IV) were evaluated in a clinical trial. CONCLUSIONS: The results demonstrate that adding GSH to CDDP allows more cycles of CDDP treatment to be administered because less toxicity is observed and the patient's quality of life is improved." And so, it appears that the combo allows one to take chemo longer and feel better, but remains to be seen if chemo resistance sets in. If that happens, a gastro type cancer will gobble up any nutrition no matter what a person ingests. In fact, one ends up feeding the tumor cells, rather than the body. There are liver cancer patients, on this newsgroup, who've been with us for 2 years or more. So we shall see. J > > Here is an IN VITRO study of glutathione, which HMS90 provides. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > So we shall see. > J Immunocal/HMS 90 depletes Glutathione levels in tumors and increases levels in healthy cells: allowing them to be less resistant to chemo. another link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8 669840&dopt=Abstract > Immunocal/HMS 90 depletes Glutathione levels in tumors and increases > levels in healthy cells: allowing them to be less resistant to chemo. > another link: > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8 669840&dopt=Abstract It says "may". It's an older,1995 Nov-Dec smaller trial. (of carefully selected patients). At least one of the investigators is an owner of the company. That's why it's best to have a clinical trial and a large cohort - reviewed and monitored by other cancer experts. As I said before, I searched clinical trials for Glutathione (closed and open trials) and there's nothing there, http://nccam.nih.gov/clinicaltrials/alltrials.htm#g no Glutathione, no hms90 That product's been out there, on newsgroups and in the real world (as you said "international") for years. Not one, not one patient (or loved one) has come here and told us of a cure. Not one. J > That product's been out there, on newsgroups and in the real world (as you said "international") for years. > Not one, not one patient (or loved one) has come here and told us of a cure. Not one. > J I Never claimed it to CURE his cancer. I know it is what saved him from experiencing chemo side effects and allowed his hair to GROW back after Falling out.... since gemticabine has SEVERE side effects.....that is what I am stating. notihng else. If it is shrinking his tumor, BONUS......since we KNOW chemo isn't. Otherwise his doctors would have been excited for him to take chemo in the beginning. >> As I said before, I searched clinical trials for Glutathione (closed and open trials) and there's nothing > there, there are more than one site to find clinical trials. http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/glu_0126.shtml Glutathione is NOT noni juice, it is a protein. HMS 90/Immunocal provide the 3 amino acids needed by our cells to create it. > > As I said before, I searched clinical trials for Glutathione (closed and open trials) and there's nothing > there, > http://nccam.nih.gov/clinicaltrials/alltrials.htm#g no Glutathione, no hms90 Glutathione is well known in the medical world.... it is not NONI juice. HMS90/Immunocal provides the 3 amino acids allowing our own cells to make glutathione. http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/glu_0126.shtml Steph wrote. > The study shows that in the experimental system, the chemo killed MORE > cells, so by your reasoning, it makes the chemo worse... ----------------------------------------------- cells grown in baicalein + Immunocal showed a higher phosphatidylserine exposure, lower mitochondrial transmembrane potential, and nearly 13 times more cells undergoing apoptosis than cells grown in baicalein alone. Hmmmmmm..... Baicalein is Chemo, so when Immunocal is included in the media 13x more cancer cells were killed. WHat part did you NOT understand????? Like I said YOU NEED to understand medical terminology. You can't assume that some silly alty product did anything. I'm very happy your husband is alive, but it's in spite of HMS 90, not because of it _______________________ silly alty product????? What does this IN VITRO study suggest about glutathione?? The main ingredient HMS90 provides to the cells. |
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