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MIL cervical C. was Re: Vaginal cancer.

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Chris Ness - 07 Jan 2006 15:20 GMT
Steph wrote:
>turtill contributed the >> stuff:

>> Will they treat it the same way Steph? This has come as a bit of a
>> shock and we still haven't got our heads around it yet but we have
>> been there before:-(
>> pete

> I suspect some palliative radiotherapy or chemotherapy may be suggested

I hadn't yet mentioned my mother-in-law (aged 72) who has come out of the
closet (maybe even to herself) about Thanksgiving to the fact that she has
cervical/uterine cancer. After symptoms that she kept to herself for three
years, she could not deny it any longer as it is debilitating her to the
point it pains her to walk. The cancer has grown to the point that it is
pressing on her colon and hips. It is perhaps the size and shape of a
football. She is very stage IV with mets in her pancreas, liver, and lungs
at the very least. (determined by PET scan) I have no idea how long she
has, but I don't expect it to be very long. She lives by herself in Roanoke
not too far from my brother-in-law, but far from her daughter (my wife) who
is out in Figgertoes territory.

The thing I don't understand is prior to the PET scan, they were going to do
a hysterectomy and radiation therapy and now they are not. I would figure
it would be palliative - especially the hysterectomy. Whether or not it
would change anything of the course of treatment, it would take the load
off her hips, sacrum and colon. But they aren't going to do it

The only thing I could figure is that she might be diabetic, and they were
afraid of healing problems. She does not admit to diabetes nor take any
medicine for it, but to me she fits the profile and her sister died of it.
Her dietary habits are and always have been poor. (Also as in poverty
raised). She and her sister drank until very recently a case of beer
between them a night and she smoked three packs a day.

Any other ideas why they are not going to at least treat the symptoms?

--
How many mothers does it take to change a lightbulb?
None. I'll just sit here in the dark.
Steph - 07 Jan 2006 20:13 GMT
> Steph wrote:
>>turtill contributed the >> stuff:
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>
> Any other ideas why they are not going to at least treat the symptoms?

I'm sure they will treat the symptoms, if only with pain-killers. But the
choice which has to be made is whether the potential benefits of the
treatment outweigh the potential harm. In the situation you describe with
widely metastatic, incurable cancer, agressive treatment is very rarely
justifiable

> --
> How many mothers does it take to change a lightbulb?
> None. I'll just sit here in the dark.
turtill@hotmail.com - 07 Jan 2006 21:22 GMT
>> Steph wrote:
>>>turtill contributed the >> stuff:
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>widely metastatic, incurable cancer, agressive treatment is very rarely
>justifiable

Can squamous cell cancer be described as aggressive Steph? My wife
doesn't drink or smoke and has a sensible diet and is only 61 years
old.
pete

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Steph - 08 Jan 2006 00:35 GMT
>>> Steph wrote:
>>>>turtill contributed the >> stuff:
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> old.
> pete

I was using "aggressive" about the treatment.
Squamous cancer can certainly be aggressive, too
turtill@hotmail.com - 08 Jan 2006 02:36 GMT
>>>> Steph wrote:
>>>>>turtill contributed the >> stuff:
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>I was using "aggressive" about the treatment.
>Squamous cancer can certainly be aggressive, too

Thanks Steph. My wife and family do not read Usenet so it is OK to
tell me what I should do if you want to.
pete

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Steph - 08 Jan 2006 06:51 GMT
>>>>> Steph wrote:
>>>>>>turtill contributed the >> stuff:
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> tell me what I should do if you want to.
> pete

How can I tell you what you should do?
That's for you to decide
turtill@hotmail.com - 08 Jan 2006 19:12 GMT
>>>>>> Steph wrote:
>>>>>>>turtill contributed the >> stuff:
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>How can I tell you what you should do?
>That's for you to decide

Yes of course it is and I should not have asked you that. I appologise
for asking you the unanswerable Steph. I will decide myself of course,
hopefully with advice from others.
pete

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Chris Ness - 07 Jan 2006 22:35 GMT
> "Chris Ness" <mness215@comcast.net> wrote in message
beer between them a night and she smoked three packs a day.

>> Any other ideas why they are not going to at least treat the symptoms?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> widely metastatic, incurable cancer, agressive treatment is very rarely
> justifiable

I would have expected at least removing a bulk of tissue - hysterectomy or
some of the tumor - to get the pressure off the colon and hip. Of course,
IANAD.
Steph - 08 Jan 2006 00:36 GMT
>> "Chris Ness" <mness215@comcast.net> wrote in message
> beer between them a night and she smoked three packs a day.
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> some of the tumor - to get the pressure off the colon and hip. Of course,
> IANAD.

That can probably be achieved with some simple judicious radiotherapy and no
operation
J - 08 Jan 2006 01:35 GMT
> I hadn't yet mentioned my mother-in-law (aged 72) who has come out of the
> closet (maybe even to herself) about Thanksgiving to the fact that she has
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> at the very least. (determined by PET scan) I have no idea how long she
> has, but I don't expect it to be very long.

I'm sorry to hear about your MIL, Chris.
Hopefully radiation therapy will ease her discomfort some.
J
 
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