Why would a product the FDA declared "Toxic" and "Ineffective" in 1982 be
in Flu vaccines?
Autism can't be caused by Thimerosal because they took it out of children's
vaccines in 2001 and children kept getting autism. It turns out that they
didn't take it out of flu vaccines.
The Age of Autism: CDC probes vaccines
By DAN OLMSTED
UPI Senior Editor
http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20051222-105616-5876
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The CDC continues to recommend flu shots -- most of which contain
thimerosal -- for pregnant women and for children 6 to 23 months of age. The
agency has declined to express a preference for the thimerosal-free version,
citing concern that it might cause some parents to forego immunizing their
children against flu if they cannot obtain it.
In addition, tens of millions of children around the world are being
injected with thimerosal-containing vaccines, based heavily on the
assurances of U.S. health authorities that it is safe and does not cause
autism.
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. Thimerosal was first introduced into vaccines
in the 1930's and autism was first discovered by Leo Kanner in
the early 1940's among children born in the 1930's. Studies
prior to 1970 estimated autism to occur in 1 in 2,000 children
while studies after 1970 showed the prevalence at about 1 in
1,000. This was also a period of increased immunization of
American children. In 1996 the NIH has estimated the rate of
autism to be higher at 1 in 500, and just this year the CDC has
found 1 in 250 children affected with classic autism. This
dramatic increase in the past decade coincides with the
introduction and spread of two new thimerosal containing
vaccines, the HIB and the hepatitis B
Another observation is that autistic symptoms emerge within
a short time after vaccination, generally following a period of
normal development. Importantly, the amount of mercury injected
with each vaccine given as a bolus or spike does greatly
exceeds EPA and safety guidelines and thus is highly likely to
be neurotoxic and injurious.
Dr. Enayati said in his statement in 1982, 18
years ago--and it's in the Federal Register--an FDA panel
concluded that thimerosal is toxic, causes cell damage, can
cause allergic reactions, and is not effective in killing
bacteria or halting their replication.
That was 18 years ago. Why, if we knew that 18 years ago,
did they continue to let that be put into these vaccines? Does
anybody know the answer to that?
By early 2001 we expect to have an adequate
thimerosal-preservative-free vaccine supply for all of the
routinely recommended childhood vaccines
However, the NAS also estimated that more than 60,000 children
are born each year at risk of adverse neurodevelopmental
effects such as overall cognitive ability, language
development, spatial perceptual skills, and motor skills due to
in utero methylmercury exposure
http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/house/house07ch106.html
So tired - 07 Jan 2006 03:11 GMT
But why would a product the FDA declared "Toxic" and "Ineffective" in
1982 be in Flu vaccines?
It does not set alarm bells off in your head?
It is pulled from all those child vaccines.
They then add this product that was found to not work and might cause them
to pay out billions in lawsuits to their flu vaccines?
Explain it to me. I just can't see a reasonable answer
Emily - 07 Jan 2006 17:26 GMT
Wastedtime@hotmail.com said...
> But why would a product the FDA declared "Toxic" and "Ineffective" in
> 1982 be in Flu vaccines?
There's 'toxic' and 'toxic'. Even oxygen is toxic at a certain pressure
[1]...
> It does not set alarm bells off in your head?
Not in the least.
> It is pulled from all those child vaccines.
And..? How many children had the vaccinations? What percentage of
those children are autistic as a result? Most autistic spectrum
conditions are familial (not hereditary - there's a difference) in their
origin.
I have five children; two of those (both boys) have AS. This is a
family trait from both sides of the family, and nothing at all to do
with the vaccinations. Even if it were, the perceived risk of side-
effects is nothing compared with the very real risk from the diseases
which the vaccinations seek to prevent.
[1] partial pressure of 2 bar.

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maryanne kehoe - 09 Jan 2006 04:25 GMT
I've *never* had a flu shot. I did ask my MD about it last year. He's
advising people that have relatively good health such as myself to
forego the shot and only advising elderly and very young kids get them.
Figgertoes - 09 Jan 2006 13:36 GMT
atlsvo@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe) wrote in news:407-43C1E5A5-311@storefull-
3258.bay.webtv.net:
> I've *never* had a flu shot. I did ask my MD about it last year. He's
> advising people that have relatively good health such as myself to
> forego the shot and only advising elderly and very young kids get them.
Our 6 year old neighbor, Fletcher's autism was caused by a vaccine,
something to do with mercury. Was perfectly fine until then. We're told
that's very rare. I hope that's correct. I do get the flu shot every year.
Socks & I were told to in order to decrease exposure risk to him.
I had the flu once. That & pneumonia were the sickest I've ever been. I
would have difficulty being alone with either - I couldn't get up alone.
Had to have help with everything. I remember looking at a glass of water
on the bedside table for hours, wanting it but unable to marshal the energy
to pick it up. Hard to imagine as I am the independent sort. No, don't
want that again.
Really, most anything we ingest is a potential risk it seems. Even the air
we breathe & the water we drink.
Fig
clifto - 09 Jan 2006 19:28 GMT
> Our 6 year old neighbor, Fletcher's autism was caused by a vaccine,
> something to do with mercury.
Thimerosal (the active ingredient in merthiolate, by the way, as well as
a vaccine additive) is about 50% mercury by weight.

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Figgertoes - 10 Jan 2006 05:00 GMT
>> Our 6 year old neighbor, Fletcher's autism was caused by a vaccine,
>> something to do with mercury.
>
> Thimerosal (the active ingredient in merthiolate, by the way, as well as
> a vaccine additive) is about 50% mercury by weight.
Ugh! And my mother used to pour on the merthiolate too. I guess it can
sting in more ways than one!
Fig
Derek Hornby - 04 Feb 2006 20:06 GMT
> I've *never* had a flu shot. I did ask my MD about it last year. He's
> advising people that have relatively good health such as myself to
> forego the shot and only advising elderly and very young kids get them.
Yes it's the same general advice over here in UK
I've also never everr had flu shot.
Anyway what is the connection between flu, and cancer?
Derek
bj - 04 Feb 2006 23:16 GMT
Some cancer patients are immune-compromised.
bj
> Anyway what is the connection between flu, and cancer?
> Derek
J - 05 Feb 2006 01:06 GMT
> Anyway what is the connection between flu, and cancer?
The guy who started the topic was posting the same thing to many newsgroups.
J
matt weber - 09 Jan 2006 23:02 GMT
>But why would a product the FDA declared "Toxic" and "Ineffective" in
>1982 be in Flu vaccines?
>
>It does not set alarm bells off in your head?
>
>It is pulled from all those child vaccines.
Not quite.
it is gone from just about all single dose vials. The problem in
getting in out of the multi-dose products, is the hazards from having
mercury compounds present in tiny quantities is very small compared to
the potential risks of not having it. By definition, mutlidose vials
are used for multiple patients. Lacking a bactericidal/viricidal
component, if someone accidentially re-uses a needle, the results can
be catasrophic. It also guards against the inadvertent addition of
pathogens from the air used to replace the vaccine when the vaccine is
withdrawn from the vial. They may be added to single dose vials, but
they don't get any opportunity to multiply in single does vials.
>They then add this product that was found to not work and might cause them
>to pay out billions in lawsuits to their flu vaccines?
>
>Explain it to me. I just can't see a reasonable answer