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Just Paige

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red.gt@hotmail.com - 28 Aug 2005 00:07 GMT
On March 2003 I ( presently 6, at diagnosis 4.5 )was diagnosed with
Stage 4 Alveolar Rhabdomyosarcoma.  The 30 months leading up to this
point we have been followed by Oncologists at Lucille Packard
Children's Hospital in Palo Alto California.

In a nutshell I was given Vincristine/Irinotecan, followed by
(vincristine, actinomycin D, cyclophosphamide) over 12 months.  During
August 2003 I underwent Radiation treatement for a total of 25
treatments spaning 25 days.  I received very severe burns from
Radiation and was on a PCA pump for 2 weeks during the last week of
radiation; I continued treatment while on the pump.

During these 11 months the primary tumor ( 5cm/8cm next between the
cheeks of my bottom ) shrank by 60%.  During a CT Scan 3 mets were
noted on her tail bone after shrinkage occured .  A prior CT Scan found
a met on her right fibula.  Additionally it was determined that it had
met. to my bone marrow.

>From March 2004 through August 2004 tests at 6 wk intervals indicated I
was in remission.  Remission was a rocky boat and those 6 months were
anything but enjoyable. In  August 2004 a nodule shaped like 1/2 an egg
was growing on my head above my left forehead.  A CT Scan indicated no
presence for tumor. A needle biopsy showed the result was positive for
Rhabdo. Th mirror image of the egg was detected between the skull and
the dura ( had not broken the dura ).

Shortly after the Bone Scan August 2004 I began 13 cycles of
alternating treatments; Efosfamide/Itoposide 5 days, then
Vincristine/Doxirubicin/Cyclphosphamide for 3 days.  I was told that
treatment was for Control and not Cure.

CT Scans in Sep 04,Oct 04 found mets to tail bone gone and fibula gone.
Bone Marrow Biopsy and Aspirate were also clear of  Rhabdo cells.

I may be eligible for a Study now involving a drug that prevents the
tumor from gaining access to a blood supply and hope to get 2 more
months.

Here it is the end of August.  I start 1st Grade next Monday.  I'm
starting to get headaches and I have severe mood swings.  The tumor is
on the frontal lobe of my brain, symetric between both lobes.  The
Scans a couple of weeks ago show that the tumor has broken the brain
blood barrier and it looks like it is in 10-15 % of my brain.

If you want to read about me, go here ->

http://poodlepaigee.blogspot.com

love,
Paige
Chris Ness - 28 Aug 2005 04:35 GMT
> On March 2003 I ( presently 6, at diagnosis 4.5 )was diagnosed with
> Stage 4 Alveolar Rhabdomyosarcoma.  The 30 months leading up to this
> point we have been followed by Oncologists at Lucille Packard
> Children's Hospital in Palo Alto California.

...

> If you want to read about me, go here ->
>
> http://poodlepaigee.blogspot.com
>
> love,
> Paige

At the risk of appearing incompassionate, let me say I find the first person
writing about a six-year-old to be somewhat disconcerting. Please write as
yourself regarding your child, i.e. she, her rather than I, me. And let her
write for herself where she can, we can handle it. That way when we respond
to your questions, we can answer appropriately, and when we respond to her
questions we can answer appropriately also. You will find excellant advise
from Steph and j, and handholding and hugs from the rest of us.

Having said that, Paige (and c) we wish you comfort and health.
red.gt@hotmail.com - 28 Aug 2005 09:01 GMT
Emily - 28 Aug 2005 13:23 GMT
mness215@comcast.net said...
> At the risk of appearing incompassionate, let me say I find the first person
> writing about a six-year-old to be somewhat disconcerting.

I thought that as well, since there was absolutely no way the child
could possibly have written any of that herself.  I'd like to see her
words in print, but they'd have to be /her/ words not an adult's
interpretation of them.
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I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see me as a
dire warning.

red.gt@hotmail.com - 28 Aug 2005 19:08 GMT
Almost as compassionate as this response
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.cancer/browse_thread/thread/b5f4c192d
45a1cf2/be6bd60c72887212?q=dolphin&rnum=2#be6bd60c72887212


Why not, "I'm so sorry for what you are going through".  That would
have been compassionate.  There is no sympathy in this world.  Why
would I have expected anything but responses like your two and the link
I listed,  at least his hostility wasn't masked in pseudo sympathy.  He
had the courage to go for blood and tell be to F$%& off.  I guess that
didn't warrant a comment.  What is it about this story that falls on
deaf ears even in a group for Cancer Support.  Is it because it's a
child.  Or because it couldn't be true because I wrote it as if it were
Paige writing.  Both of you are good with criticism.  Has either of you
been looking down the barrel of a gun ready to take your child's life.
Shame, shame.  Support Groups, News Group, it doesn't matter.  People
can dish out plenty of criticism, but when it comes to sympathy that's
an entirely different story.
Chris Ness - 28 Aug 2005 19:52 GMT
> Almost as compassionate as this response
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.cancer/browse_thread/thread
b5f4c192d45a1cf2/be6bd60c72887212?q=dolphin&rnum=2#be6bd60c72887212

(Do these google group message not make it to Usenet? I never see them)

> Why not, "I'm so sorry for what you are going through".  That would
> have been compassionate.  There is no sympathy in this world.

You sell us short. There are many ways of providing support, and each of us
has different capabilities and abilities. I am not sure what you were
expecting. We have people here who have expert knowlege. We have people
here who go through similar experiences. We have people here who are
survivors and people making the last mile. If symapathy is all you want,
you can get that too.

Why
> would I have expected anything but responses like your two and the link
> I listed,  at least his hostility wasn't masked in pseudo sympathy.  He
> had the courage to go for blood and tell be to F$%& off.  I guess that
> didn't warrant a comment.

I still have not seen his comment or even know who he is.

What is it about this story that falls on
> deaf ears even in a group for Cancer Support.  Is it because it's a
> child.  Or because it couldn't be true because I wrote it as if it were
> Paige writing.

Not that it could not be true. Maybe underlying the story I found it
manipulative, but first and foremost I found it confusing and not
straighforward. So why did you write it as if Paige was writing instead of
yourself?

>Both of you are good with criticism.  Has either of you
> been looking down the barrel of a gun ready to take your child's life.
> Shame, shame.  

Shame on us? I can't believe you wrote that. Paige is nowhere near any
consideration of euthanasia. And some of us never believe in it. Get
couseling now! Your seeing hostility in our not liking your style and
reflecting hostility back is but a drop in the bucket.

Support Groups, News Group, it doesn't matter.  People
> can dish out plenty of criticism, but when it comes to sympathy that's
> an entirely different story.

Sympathy for Paige, yes, but sympathy for you will be much harder for me to
recreate.
Emily - 28 Aug 2005 20:05 GMT
mness215@comcast.net said...
> > What is it about this story that falls on
> > deaf ears even in a group for Cancer Support.  Is it because it's a
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> straighforward. So why did you write it as if Paige was writing instead of
> yourself?

I think the problem I had with it was that it was written in the first
person singular as if autobiographical; yet it was obviously not the
work of a young child.  I don't have a problem with sympathising with a
person of any age going through the cancer journey, but somehow the very
adult and technical language purporting to be from a youngster grated
more than somewhat.  I honestly feel that if the original post had been
written in the third person I would have reacted more positively.  And
as I said before, I *would* like to see Paige's own words describing her
experiences - but they must be her own words and not someone else's.  
It's not a question of believability but rather of style.

Please don't accuse me of being heartless either.  As the mother of 5
children I think I've got more than a small idea of what it's like to be
occasionally worried about one's offspring...
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red.gt@hotmail.com - 29 Aug 2005 00:29 GMT
Clueless woman !  Having 5 children is nothing like watching your only
child wither away.  Knowing that within weeks she will be dead cannont
be compared to the sniffles.  In neither post did I ask for sympathy.
I merely noted that neither of you were sympathetic.  Even now, neither
of you are sympathetic to my situation.  Shame, shame, shame.  At least
you didn't profess to be Christian's !
J - 29 Aug 2005 01:13 GMT
> Knowing that within weeks she will be dead cannont
> be compared to the sniffles.  In neither post did I ask for sympathy.
> I merely noted that neither of you were sympathetic.  Even now, neither
> of you are sympathetic to my situation.

I'm very sorry about your daughter.
Please don't start a flame war here.
Obviously you're distressed and angry. Obviously they missed the point of
your post.
I cannot apologize for them; they have to do it themselves.
If you want support, you'll get it.
Please tell your daughter she's cute as a button and I love her outfit.
Please give her a gentle hug for me.
J
red.gt@hotmail.com - 29 Aug 2005 00:36 GMT
What are your qualifications to be in this group slinging out criticism
like this ?  You obviously don't have children ...
J - 29 Aug 2005 01:56 GMT
>   You obviously don't have children ...

For quite a while, back in 1998 - 2000, there was a lady here who posted
about her daughter who had a brain tumour (I think discovered shortly after
birth). She passed away at age 2. The lady was very good at supporting
other parents.
We're not had parents with children with cancer for quite a while. As a
consequence, I've usually referred them to other resources.Sure, you may
stay here, but you may decide you'll relate better with groups of other
parents (whose kids have cancer).

Another resource is alt.support.grief. I'm sure you'll find other parents
of children who've passed away, there.
I see someone misunderstood your post there, as well, but others may come
along and be compassionate to you.

Other resources: http://www.kidscancernetwork.org/grieving.html

Tell us about Paige. Is she really going back to school next week? Is she
excited about it?

Share with us what makes Paige special. Each person is special in their own
way.

Do you have counselling service at a hospital where you and/or your partner
can talk with others.
The thought of losing such a beautiful child must be incredibly painful.
Share with us. I can assure you there are caring people here.
There's also an ACOR listserve for same with 200 subscribers
http://www.acor.org/mailing.html?l=r
There's also a hospice list for children
http://www.acor.org/mailing.html?l=p Hospice Care for Children

I'll leave you to decide where you think is best for you.
J
red.gt@hotmail.com - 29 Aug 2005 01:02 GMT
Excuse me Chris Ness but what are your qualifications ?  What gives you
the right to be slinging out criticism in this group ?  It coudln't be
because you have a dying child  !
 
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