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Joe-46er - 31 Mar 2005 04:30 GMT Sad story. I'm d/ged with CRC stage 4 in Nov 2003. My brother starts giving me lots of support as I have surgery and begin chemo. So guess what? 5 months later he is d/ged with stomach cancer. We share mutual stories together, only his cancer is more aggressive than mine and this past weekend (wonderful Easter) his cancer completely blocks his duodenum. He'll have surgery tomorrow to try to open up a way through to his bowels, but the doc is not optimistic. He guessed 3 months left. Bummer, huh?
Watching him on the hospital bed these past few days has been like a window to me, showing what I will probably be like sometime down the road.
The rest of my family is at a loss for words with 2 impending deaths. Not much palliative treatment is available for him. For me, it's different though. I feel OK except for the chemo side effects.
We truly are brothers. Not just biologically, but experientially.
:'-( :'-( :'-( _________________________________
"Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and irenotecan for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)
Alayne - 31 Mar 2005 10:00 GMT > Sad story. I'm d/ged with CRC stage 4 in Nov 2003. My brother starts > giving me lots of support as I have surgery and begin chemo. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > :'-( :'-( :'-( I'm sorry to hear that Joe, it must be tough on you and your family. I hope the surgery goes well tommorrow and my thoughts are with you.
Warm Hugs
Alayne
Sinead - 31 Mar 2005 13:08 GMT > Sad story. I'm d/ged with CRC stage 4 in Nov 2003. My brother starts > giving me lots of support as I have surgery and begin chemo. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and irenotecan for thy stomach's sake." -- > 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted) Joe
I am so sorry to hear of your brother's diagnosis. This must be a terrible time for your family.
Easier said than done, I know, but try not to look at him and think this is what is coming to you. Keep positive about your treatment.
I cannot understand how you must feel, I lost my Dad but I do not have cancer myself. All I know is that you never regret spending time with your loved ones - the memories are so precious once they are gone. Bizarrely enough, as a family we had lots of good times, but some of the funniest and most special are from when Dad was near the end. He tried to make it as painless as possible for us, nothing was left unsaid and no one was in any doubt as to how much he loved us (or indeed as to how much we loved him).
You are fighting battles on all sides at the moment, remember to look after yourself too.
Take care Sinead
Emily - 31 Mar 2005 15:40 GMT nobody@nospam.com said...
> The rest of my family is at a loss for words with 2 impending deaths. > Not much palliative treatment is available for him. For me, it's > different though. I feel OK except for the chemo side effects. > > We truly are brothers. Not just biologically, but experientially. {{{{{Hugs}}}}}
Words fail.
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Sinead - 31 Mar 2005 16:48 GMT > nobody@nospam.com said... >> The rest of my family is at a loss for words with 2 impending deaths. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Words fail. Joe
That's what I was trying to get across in my own awkward way... Emily hit the nail on the head.
Sinead
J - 31 Mar 2005 20:37 GMT what does CRC stand for?
Peacekeeper - 31 Mar 2005 23:26 GMT > what does CRC stand for? J I assume he is talking about colorectal cancer http://www.vicc.org/showcontent.php?id=270 Tony
J - 31 Mar 2005 23:47 GMT > > what does CRC stand for? > > J > I assume he is talking about colorectal cancer > http://www.vicc.org/showcontent.php?id=270 > Tony Tony, I would strongly suggest that you and other readers filter the burglar of turd poster (email address - above). I've been posting here, for years, as "J" and he's been impersonating me since a few months ago. Or at least address him as "turd", please/thanks. He's been asked to change his screen name; he did but changed it right back. It's obvious to me and others that he gets his jollies playing games on a cancer newsgroup. J
Peacekeeper - 01 Apr 2005 04:57 GMT > > > Tony, I would strongly suggest that you and other readers filter the > burglar of turd poster (email address - above). [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cancer newsgroup. > J Your strong suggestion done . I wondered about that question you are the one answering such questions normally.
My apologies for falling into his trolling Tony
J - 02 Apr 2005 11:21 GMT > > > > Tony, I would strongly suggest that you and other readers filter the > > burglar of turd poster (email address - above). [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > My apologies for falling into his trolling > Tony No problem, Tony and thank you and Joe and to Barbara and others who ignore him.
If he follows my instructions, we'll see. I think I know who it is but I could be wrong. It's like a chess game; his move now. Thanks again, j
J - 01 Apr 2005 18:05 GMT i have no idea who you are. I've told you in the past that you and I are not impostors!. no more from me on this subject!!! you've been banished to my spam filter!
J - 01 Apr 2005 19:42 GMT burglar of turds wrote:
> i have no idea who you are. I've told you in the past that you and I > are not impostors!. no more from me on this subject!!! you've been > banished to my spam filter! Fact: You have been asked to change your screen name. Fact: I was here first (for years). You are the imposter. Your first post under "Burglar of Turds" was Dec 28 2004. Fact: you know how to change your screen name. You've done it before. You were JJ, you were T, you were Burt. Proof http://tinyurl.com/63j7k Stop this nonsense. Change your screen name to Burt and keep it that way. On the top right side of your Yahoo email account, it says "Mail Options".
Click on that. Then click on Mail Accounts Then click on Edit Then Edit your screen name ("From") to Burt. Then Save. and keep it that way. J
Joe-46er - 02 Apr 2005 00:28 GMT >> > what does CRC stand for? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >cancer newsgroup. >J Thanks for the reminder. Just killfiltered him. --Joe
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"Take a little 5FU, leucovorin and irenotecan for thy stomach's sake." -- 1 Timothy 5:23 (adapted)
J - 01 Apr 2005 01:48 GMT > Sad story. I'm d/ged with CRC stage 4 in Nov 2003. My brother starts > giving me lots of support as I have surgery and begin chemo. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > :'-( :'-( :'-( Hugs Joe, Hold onto hope, maybe with the right surgery, they'll find a way to buy him quality time. They did with fred's mother, so hold onto hope. Hugs J
Raptor05 - 19 Apr 2005 03:12 GMT So sorry to hear about this Joe.
STRENGTH, HOPE, LIFE, LOVE, POWER, POSITIVE THINKING
> > Sad story. I'm d/ged with CRC stage 4 in Nov 2003. My brother starts > > giving me lots of support as I have surgery and begin chemo. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Hugs > J Socks the Whitehouse Cat - 19 Apr 2005 11:28 GMT > The rest of my family is at a loss for words with 2 impending deaths. > Not much palliative treatment is available for him. For me, it's > different though. I feel OK except for the chemo side effects. My father died on Apr 1 from complications due to pneumonia, diabetes, and alzheimers. Meanwhile, I have an estimated 5 months left from NSCLC Stage IV that I have been fighting since May, 2001. I alsao had an uncle die of lung cancer, so chances are there is a genetic pattern that might land one of my sisters or brothers in the hospital at some point. I think I know some part of what you're going through, except my dad died pretty much without warning. the various dieseses ganged up on his heart, and it just quit on him.
My mother was close to breaking down a few times while I was home visiting for the funeral. One night she did, in fact. I've also seen high stress levels in my wife a few times. Those of us actually dying seem to have an easier time of it than the people who have to watch us. We've mostly reached acceptence. I even managed to talk about dying to a State Senate committee last week without breaking down, but one of the Senators started crying. She didn't even know me, except maybe in passing.
There is really nothing to be done but psychological counseling. I started getting it within weeks of being diagnosed. I'm sure that this has helped with my acceptance of fate. You may want to consider the same. I only wish that I could talk my wife into it, but she's still in denial.
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Alayne - 19 Apr 2005 16:11 GMT > > The rest of my family is at a loss for words with 2 impending deaths. > > Not much palliative treatment is available for him. For me, it's [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > with my acceptance of fate. You may want to consider the same. I only > wish that I could talk my wife into it, but she's still in denial. Socks,
Would it help Figgertoes if she talked to someone that has been through the losing of their partner? I would be happy to give you my home e-mail address if she wanted to chat things through without you seeing her posts?
Warm Hugs
Alayne
Socks the Whitehouse Cat - 20 Apr 2005 14:19 GMT > Socks, > > Would it help Figgertoes if she talked to someone that has been > through the losing of their partner? I would be happy to give you my > home e-mail address if she wanted to chat things through without you > seeing her posts? thanks alayne. i can't get her to talk about it with anyone
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Emily - 20 Apr 2005 15:03 GMT agent01413@my-deja.com said...
> > Socks, > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > thanks alayne. i can't get her to talk about it with anyone There's always the possibility that she cries on a good friend's shoulder when you're not around - it would be a very unusual woman who didn't have /someone/ to confide in, after all. Let's hope so, anyway. Make sure she knows where we are here as and when she needs us, and that she's got my home email addy. AFAIC she's part of the extended family and (through you) a personal friend. Tell her not to expect instant replies from us Rightpondians (it could be the middle of the night here); however the NG is a world-wide thing and there will always be someone on-line when needed.
{{{{{Hugs}}}}} to you both
 Signature If you can keep your head when all around are losing theirs... then you've failed to grasp some important aspect of the situation.
Alayne - 20 Apr 2005 18:44 GMT > > Socks, > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > thanks alayne. i can't get her to talk about it with anyone I can actually relate to that very well Socks, it comes from a perspective that if you don't acknowledge how serious the situation is, then it can't be that serious. Tony and I never once admitted to each other that he wasn't going to beat it, everything was dealt with in "at some point" mode. Looking back, of course it was denial, but it was the way that we dealt with it. I do actually regret some days, not accepting things earlier, but my mind simply refused to "see", it wasn't a deliberate move on my part I am sure.
If Figgertoes does want to bend my ear, you know my name add an r, and then ntlworld.com
Warm Hugs to you both.
Alayne
Emily - 19 Apr 2005 22:55 GMT agent01413@my-deja.com said...
> I only > wish that I could talk my wife into it, but she's still in denial. Give her a {{{{{hug}}}}} from C and me please, and tell her we'll be here for her as and when necessary.
 Signature If you can keep your head when all around are losing theirs... then you've failed to grasp some important aspect of the situation.
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