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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / February 2005alt.support.cancer Charter
http://www.cancersupporters.com/asc/charter.html (this is in response to Zee's post) What is strictly prohibited on this newsgroup? Under no circumstances is it appropriate to contact a member of the newsgroup at their residence or place of employment without their prior approval. Read this again. There are no exceptions! Posing as a medical professional is strictly prohibited. For example, don't use a doctorate in finance or mineralogy to convey the impression that you are a medical doctor qualified to recommend treatments or diagnose disease. This includes the use of "Dr., Doc, PhD, RN, LPN, med, etc." in your name, e-mail address, or alias. If you claim one of these titles be prepared to provide degree, major/minor, university, year it was earned, and years experience. You must provide substantive information if asked by any member of the group. If you have been convicted of health fraud, you are not welcome in alt.support.cancer. Posing as a cancer patient/caregiver for promoting products or services is strictly prohibited. Commercial advertising is prohibited. Product posts by individuals with a financial or business interest are prohibited. Deceptive posts disguised to conceal other prohibited content are prohibited. For sale, sales, links to auction sites i.e. eBay, or selling items are prohibited. Donation requests are prohibited. Soliciting for capital funds is prohibited. Chain letters, mailing lists, frauds, urban legends, Multi-level Marketing, Make Money Fast, investment schemes are prohibited. Posting in HTML or attachments containing binaries or images are prohibited. Off-topic materials, advertising, spam, excessive posting of the same material, cancel attacks, encrypted or coded postings, and inappropriate cross-postings are prohibited. Opportunities, business opportunities, job postings, resumes, announcements, flaming, trolling, baiting, flooding, post bombing, troublemaking, or other forms of net-abuse or abuse of alt.support.cancer newsgroup users are prohibited. Troll posting (cross-postings directed to a.s.c from other newsgroups with the express purpose of disrupting the a.s.c group), flame baiting or unwarranted flaming is prohibited. Fraudulent activity is prohibited. Deceptive information is prohibited. Making outrageous or unsupported claims is prohibited. Slander or other criminal acts are prohibited. Hipcrime or other inappropriate posts made via malicious scripts or programs are prohibited. Test messages are prohibited use alt.test instead and put "ignore" in the subject. This is an unmoderated newsgroup by definition. Having said that, there exists a form of user moderation. We cannot control what you post to the NG, but we can and do hold you accountable for straying from acceptable behavior as defined in this FAQ. This is not intended as censorship, but rather, to prevent the NG from turning into a cesspool. Please help us keep the signal-to-noise ratio down. Before you post to alt.support.cancer Please read the newsgroup before posting. Lurking for at least one week prior to posting the first time in a new newsgroup is considered standard acceptable behavior. Just exactly how do you propose to enforce any of this? This is usenet. You can plonk anyone you want, but your list of rules is so much kitty litter on Usenet. Net nazis. Sheesh. Zee > Just exactly how do you propose to enforce any of this? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Zee Zee, I am with you on this. We do not need someone on the group to sort out what is correct for us to read. WHO ARE these sorters and 'self motivated' moderators? What are their credentials for SORTING?> eveline > > Just exactly how do you propose to enforce any of this? > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > eveline Many are appointed or self-appointed pharma shills, receiving money, gifts, perks and sometimes just 'strokes' from pharmaceutical companies who not only manufacture the chemicals used to treat cancers, but manufacture the chemicals which CAUSED many of our cancers. (Clever eh? They win both ways.) We all are entitled to our opinion but we are not entitled to try and suppress someone else's. I read posters whose opinion conflicts with mine but I do not read posters whose purpose is to control and suppress. Usenet is a public forum. There are "moderated" newsgroups but alt.support.cancer isn't one of them. There are specific rules on how to set one up. For example, an existing newsgroup cannot become a moderated group; the moderated group must be started as a new group. My energy is limited, and I will not speak on this topic again, but if you wish to engage me with reasonable thoughtful discussion on the topics which I post I thank you. Zee > Many are appointed or self-appointed pharma shills, receiving money, > gifts, perks and sometimes just 'strokes' from pharmaceutical companies > who not only manufacture the chemicals used to treat cancers, but > manufacture the chemicals which CAUSED many of our cancers. (Clever eh? > They win both ways.) most of the smart ones here know what to do with your posts. J > most of the smart ones here know what to do with your posts. > J Gosh Ive only been away a week and there is another 'doe'. I can ignore 'zwalanga' right J? MIKE >> most of the smart ones here know what to do with your posts. >> J >> > Gosh Ive only been away a week and there is another 'doe'. I can ignore > 'zwalanga' right J? > MIKE I wish............ > > most of the smart ones here know what to do with your posts. > > J > > > Gosh Ive only been away a week and there is another 'doe'. I can ignore > 'zwalanga' right J? > MIKE Durned if I know, Mike. She's done and said some nasty things to Steph (then deleted her posts in Google) She's nasty to me. She drops hints that she's being seen by an oncologist. Drops hints about "pending cancer patient". Hint about surgery. When I asked her what type of cancer, she doesn't even seem to know/want to disclose which part of her body.<g> For all I know, she could have dysplasia... She works in a health food store and I think is in BC (Canada) Durned if I know, Mike. Welcome back :-) PS you might as well skip the whole "voting thread". It's turned into (with some exceptions including a new cancer patient) a flamefest too. J > > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > I'm getting kind of tired of the whole concept of dictating to the needs of a forum by outsiders with an obvious agenda to destroy the concept what cancer is all about. I think that I will take a vacation for a while, until the frauds get out of here. I cannot deny that for the past year, while I was fighting the whole thing, that I received both encouragement and help from those here who know what it's all about. Meanwhile, the kids from kindergarten have done their best to spam the forum and draw away from the real problems, just to press their agenda. Till this is done, I guess that I will give it a rest, and look elsewhere for support. For those who did help me, a gracious thank you through my trials, and a year later, less one kidney, and a teriffic scare, I am cancer free, and looking positively to the future. I can offer hope to those who have been read their death sentence, and are not sure where to turn. There are more than myself who have had the same help, and I am sure that they understand where I am coming from. I'll be in touche'  SignatureFinished my cancer, Finished my heart problems, Grateful to be back. Eddie MD OTF > Usenet is a public forum. There are "moderated" newsgroups but > alt.support.cancer isn't one of them. There are specific rules on how > to set one up. For example, an existing newsgroup cannot become a > moderated group; the moderated group must be started as a new group. Zee, I find it odd that you observe the rules of the road when they suit you. Usenet has standards that we must all abide by, or Usenet will become a useless cesspool. Any Charter/FAQ posts made in this group are perfectly legitimate in Usenet. They are intended to remind us to stay within the guidelines of Usenet Netiquette and the topic area and behavior appropriate to the newsgroup. If the Charter/FAQ posts do not fall within your "rules of the road" you are welcome to not read them or go elsewhere. Jerry > I am with you on this. We do not need someone on the group to sort out what > is correct for us to read. > WHO ARE these sorters and 'self motivated' moderators? What are their > credentials for SORTING?> Sometimes I wonder why you're here. You consistently align yourself with trolls. Get out a bit and visit other support newsgroups. There's always 2 or 3 who help with that on any newsgroup. Examples: http://tinyurl.com/4lxxk (just for you, to save you time, I searched and tiny-urled some examples) And a current post on misc.health.alternative "Thank you for your opinion. Please review your newsreader and learn about using the next button or the killfile." What makes you think this newsgroup should be any different? I am tired of this, so now I am going to make an announcement. The alt.support.cancer Charter does not cover news:alt.support.cancer.breast So if trolls and loons start visiting there, you and your aligned "sisters" can deal with it, on your own. And you'll have yourself to thank. J zwalanga@yahoo.com wrote in news:1107800959.195148.110830 @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: > Just exactly how do you propose to enforce any of this? notes to ISPs > This is usenet. > > You can plonk anyone you want, but your list of rules is so much kitty > litter on Usenet. done NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.166.62.149 I thought Canadians were better mannered then this. what a disappointment. > Net nazis. Sheesh. > net kooks. sheesh Signature"Some witty person in rec.arts.sf.composition (I forget who) called them feral apostrophes. Untamed, unregulated, they roam the wastes of the English language and pop up where lea'st expected." > zwalanga@yahoo.com wrote in news:1107800959.195148.110830 > @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: > > > Just exactly how do you propose to enforce any of this? > > notes to ISPs try libel and/or slander http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43109a0a392ed4be (crossposted to s.m.d.c) http://businesscontent.telus.com/webcontent/content/Products/legal/acceptableUse Policy.jsp the blackmailer is trying to cause trouble for Steph. I went back and read all his posts (back to Dec 10/04- as far back as my newsserver shows his posts and I read all of his posts) on sci.med.diseases.cancer and there was no abusive post to a cancer patient (and her crossposted post certainly makes him look bad to other readers, since most won't take the time to do the same as I, and there are "abusive posts" on s.m.d.c., but to non cancer patients, who gave there as much or more than they got - at least he does it with taste <g>) The others (here) will have to figure out how to show the full post and headers and forward to the appropriate place. > > This is usenet. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.166.62.149 resolves to Telus Communications in Burnaby, BC. (see above url) <snip> J > http://www.cancersupporters.com/asc/charter.html > What is strictly prohibited on this newsgroup? Does NOT cover the breast cancer newsgroup. J |
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