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Andrew - 24 Dec 2004 04:56 GMT
Hello Folks, it's been a while since I last posted.  My father passed
away on Nov 15 (2 months from diagnosis of Primary Liver w/mets to
lungs and abdomin). He passed away fairly peacefully and was surrounded
by family. His pain and symptoms were managed very well by the
palliative care team which I'm very thankful for.  They were awesome.

About 4 days from his death there was a noticable change in his
symptoms. He began vomiting old blood. This did not really bother him
which I'm thankful for although it was tough for people to see.  He did
this about 4 times within about a day and did not do this anymore.  He
was not concious for about 3 days after. During this 3 days he did have
a bit of congestion but medication worked great at clearing this up.

On the last day about 6 hours before he passed you could see signs of
the impending.  His palms and ears became darker which is a sign of
less circulation.  It end with 2 changes in facial expression - kindof
like slight grimaces or changes in facial expressions and his breathing
stopped. There was not a noticeble last breath or anything.

Unfortunately I was a bit of a mess. I think I spent so much time
researching this and that and trying to make things better for him that
I wasn't really prepared for this even though I knew it was going to
happen. It's totally not like me but I'm fairly sure I was the worst at
handling this initially. I know he's in a better place, however, I just
wish he wasn't there yet and was here cancer free.

Thanks to everyone for you help - you are awesome people.

I'm back in Ontario again and back at my work. My employer was awesome
at supporting me during this time - I own them some long hours for this
in the future.

Unfortunately my wife's sister in law was diagnosed with Cancer in the
bones, liver and lungs 2 weeks after my father died. She had breast
cancer 5 years ago and this summer they had thought they had beat it.
Of course this meant she stopped taking tomoxifin, which you have to
question the coincidence between this and the sudden reoccurance.  She
has 3 kids ranging from 7 - 14 so it's going to be tough days ahead.
She is on chemo right now, however from what I know it seems like there
is not much chance of good that can come out of this.
Merry Christmas (or Happy Holidays) to all,

Andrew
Alayne - 24 Dec 2004 09:35 GMT
> Hello Folks, it's been a while since I last posted.  My father passed
> away on Nov 15 (2 months from diagnosis of Primary Liver w/mets to
> lungs and abdomin). He passed away fairly peacefully and was surrounded
> by family. His pain and symptoms were managed very well by the
> palliative care team which I'm very thankful for.  They were awesome.

Hello Andrew, I am sorry to learn about your father but it is good that he
passed peacefully and was surrounded by loving family.  He's at peace now,
no longer suffering.

> About 4 days from his death there was a noticable change in his
> symptoms. He began vomiting old blood. This did not really bother him
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> handling this initially. I know he's in a better place, however, I just
> wish he wasn't there yet and was here cancer free.

I don't think that anyone can be truly prepared when their loved ones pass
away and it still comes as a great shock.  My husband was in hospice for
four weeks and slipped into unconciousness for the last few days.  I think
after the intensive caring and the living with hope, when it is all over the
numbness and emptiness come to the fore.

> Thanks to everyone for you help - you are awesome people.
>
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>
> Andrew

I am so sorry to also learn about your wife's sister in law, life can be
very cruel.

I wish you a Peaceful Christmas and may happier memories of your father
raise a smile.

Hugs

Alayne
J - 24 Dec 2004 09:58 GMT
> Hello Folks, it's been a while since I last posted.  My father passed
> away on Nov 15 (2 months from diagnosis of Primary Liver w/mets to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> handling this initially. I know he's in a better place, however, I just
> wish he wasn't there yet and was here cancer free.

I understand, Andrew. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Pleased to read that palliative care was very helpful.

> I'm back in Ontario again and back at my work. My employer was awesome
> at supporting me during this time - I own them some long hours for this
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> She is on chemo right now, however from what I know it seems like there
> is not much chance of good that can come out of this.

I'm sorry to hear the news, Andrew.
You take care of you for a while.  Your experience or help may be needed
later, sadly.
Wishing you and your family a peaceful holiday time.
J
Jill - 24 Dec 2004 15:35 GMT
> Hello Folks, it's been a while since I last posted.  My father passed
> away on Nov 15 (2 months from diagnosis of Primary Liver w/mets to
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>
> Andrew

Andrew,
My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Merry Christmas, sweetie.
And the biggest Jill hugs.
bj - 24 Dec 2004 16:44 GMT
"Andrew" <ahilden@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1103864160.032211.152410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Hello Folks, it's been a while since I last posted.  My father passed away
> on Nov 15 (2 months from diagnosis of Primary Liver w/mets to lungs and
> abdomin).

My sympathies are with you. My father died in August, but not of any one
thing -- just "old age" -- and it was sad to see him deteriorating at an
increasing rate over about 3 years. But he had a good, long life, and a
lovely full honors funeral at Arlington, which he richly deserved (and even
the weather was spectacular).
bj
Guess Who - 24 Dec 2004 19:27 GMT
> Unfortunately I was a bit of a mess. I think I spent so much time
> researching this and that and trying to make things better for him that
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>
> Andrew

I don't think anyone is prepared to loose a family member, did you Dad ever
get to visit your place?
Happy Holidays, Alex
Andrew - 24 Dec 2004 21:07 GMT
> I don't think anyone is prepared to loose a family member, did you Dad ever
> get to visit your place?
> Happy Holidays, Alex

No unfortunately he wasn't able to.  We had an appointment to discuss this
with his Dr. but about 2 days before he got a bit worse and soon after he
was in palliative care.  He had a few good days in thier but there was no
chance that he could have handled the trip.  Those good days however were
great, which was awesome looking back at it.

Happy Holidays,
Andrew
J - 18 Jan 2005 00:22 GMT
> I'm back in Ontario again and back at my work. My employer was awesome
> at supporting me during this time - I own them some long hours for this
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> She is on chemo right now, however from what I know it seems like there
> is not much chance of good that can come out of this.

Still out there reading, Andrew ?
How are you and the family doing?
You can bend our ear(s) anytime if you feel it would help with the loss of
your Dad or the situation with your wife's sister-in-law.
Best,
J
Andrew - 23 Jan 2005 04:31 GMT
> Still out there reading, Andrew ?
> How are you and the family doing?
> You can bend our ear(s) anytime if you feel it would help with the loss of
> your Dad or the situation with your wife's sister-in-law.
> Best,
> J

Sure am J, I'm still lurking. My sister in law is undergoing chemo
treatment. She seems to be making it through the treatments well,
although it's hard to tell without actually being there. They are not
really comfortable in talking about the details of the cancer at this
time. Tonight I'm online researching thyroid cancer.  My step-mother in
law was diagnosed with it today.  No details yet as they have not had
thier initial appointment but I decided to take a look to get a general
overview of it.  There appears to be a great chance with this type of
cancer if it's one of the more common types.

As to me, I'm doing OK. Biggest problem is thinking about my dad when I
go to bed.  It's hard on the sleep schedule. I find it helps to just
get up and do something to get my mind off it and then try sleeping
again. The other thing that works is just stay up until I'm drop dead
tired.

Thanks,
Andrew
J - 28 Jan 2005 10:14 GMT
> Sure am J, I'm still lurking. My sister in law is undergoing chemo
> treatment. She seems to be making it through the treatments well,
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> again. The other thing that works is just stay up until I'm drop dead
> tired.

Hello Andrew,
I'm sorry I'm late with this reply. I seem to be slowing down these days.

It did feel rather strange when I got back home after Dad passed away.
I think I went into denial. I recall wanting all the paperwork to go away
and that takes time.
So we all mourn differently.  Hopefully your sleep schedule will settle
down soon.

You'll need lots of rest since there's two others in the family with
cancer.
You're right, the most common thyroid cancer is very treatable and often
curable.
There's been Anita and Jill with thyroid cancer on this newsgroup recently.
Perhaps they're lurking. Jill just had another surgery this past Tuesday
and Anita's having one in a week or so.  The ups and downs of having
surgery, getting on thyroid medications and waiting for the adjustment
periods to start to bring relief of symptoms is not necessarily a "shoe-in"
for the patient.  It's good that you're researching thyroid. When thyroid
levels are "out of whack", it can affect the body in troublesome ways. I'm
sure your mother-in-law will appreciate your understanding of how the
thyroid affects/impacts the body. And any information that you can share
with her. Should it be one of the other thyroid cancers, do let us know
when you post next time.

I could be wrong, but as I recall, your sister-in-law is fairly young and
has (one of the types) leukemia? Is that accurate?
It's good to know that she's tolerating the treatments fairly well.

Keep in touch and let us know how you're doing.
I care.
J
 
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