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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / December 2004Dr Day
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/day.html Please Help Our Ongoing Investigation * If you or someone you know has followed Dr. Day's advice or have any other significant information about her, please contact me at sbinfo@quackwatch.com. * If you have any of her tapes or other educational materials that you no longer need, please donate them to Quackwatch, P.O. Box 1747, Allentown, PA 18105 Stay Away from Dr. Lorraine Day How could she know whether she her lymph nodes were cancerous without obtaining a biopsy? If she had a lymph-node biopsy, why hasn't she posted a pathology report showing that she had cancerous nodes? She also cut off the bottom of the pathology report of the specimen obtained at her second surgery. So far, Dr. Day has turned down three requests to provide the "missing" records. The issue, of course, is not whether she had cancer but whether it was cured by the surgery she had. Early in June, she refused a similar request made by telephone by a newspaper reporter in Arizona. > http://www.quackwatch.org/ "The War Against Quackery is a carefully orchestrated, heavily endowed campaign sponsored by extremists holding positions of power in the orthodox hierarchy.....The mutimillion-dollar campaign against quackery was never meant to root out incompetent doctors; it was, and is, designed specifically to destroy alternative medicine...The millions were raised and spent because orthodox medicine sees alternative, drugless medicine as a real threat to its economic power. And right they are...the majority of the drug houses will not survive."--Dr Atkins, M.D. (The Healing of Cancer by Barry Lynes). http://www.whale.to/p/quacks.html > "J" <somebody@nobdoyto.contact> wrote in message > > http://www.quackwatch.org/ > > "The War Against Quackery is a carefully orchestrated, heavily endowed > campaign sponsored by extremists take your meds.. J If anybody out there has time and the energy to report him, select his posts, then show full headers (I'll post them), then insert the blurb and forward to his ISP. To: <abuse@btopenworld.com> BT Yahoo you have a dial-up subscriber that posts links to his web site whale.to in violation of alt.support.cancer Charter and Usenet AUP. John does not have cancer. John does flood the newsgroup with his posts, nearly all of them have nothing to do with cancer support. Many are outside of the topic for the newsgroup. Please enforce your Usenet AUP. -------- Original Message -------- Path: internal1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!meganewsservers.com!feeder2.on.meganewsservers.com!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!194.72.9.35.MISMATCH!news-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail From: "john" <nospamoridiotss@vaccine.com> Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer Subject: Re: Dr Day Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 16 Message-ID: <cqe42b$5le$1@titan.btinternet.com> References: <41C9983E.ECF92405@execulink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-122-204-36.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1103795084 5806 213.122.204.36 (23 Dec 2004 09:44:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:44:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.support.cancer:100694 > http://www.quackwatch.org/ "The War Against Quackery is a carefully orchestrated, heavily endowed campaign sponsored by extremists holding positions of power in the orthodox hierarchy.....The mutimillion-dollar campaign against quackery was never meant to root out incompetent doctors; it was, and is, designed specifically to destroy alternative medicine...The millions were raised and spent because orthodox medicine sees alternative, drugless medicine as a real threat to its economic power. And right they are...the majority of the drug houses will not survive."--Dr Atkins, M.D. (The Healing of Cancer by Barry Lynes). http://www.whale.to/p/quacks.html Ah, so "J" really IS the idiotic "Dr." Stephen Barrett. Your blustering prose sounded like it. How come you don't sign your name anymore? Has it just become too embarrassing? Too much of a liability? I think you need to put your resume (not the fake one you present as an "expert witness" who knows nothing) but the REAL one on the site, and tell us who supports your vicious campaign. I asked you once what exactly the difference was between a "trial" and an "unproven" therapy. You never did answer me. Obviously, if a therapy is in clinical trial, or is considered experimental, it is not yet proven, therefore should be referred to as "unproven", yet you only call nontoxic therapies "unproven". Hmmm. Bias? So, "Dr." Barrett, you may try to stop it, but you cannot. You can't fool all the people all the time, no matter how much your Big Pharma paymasters pay you. I would be a lot more receptive to someone with a less vicious and more open mind. Maybe the ear-piercing Bobbie Baratz? Howard Straus > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/day.html > Please Help Our Ongoing Investigation [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > cured by the surgery she had. Early in June, she refused a similar request > made by telephone by a newspaper reporter in Arizona. Yeah, I'm afraid this J has become really tiresome to us people who enjoy a bit of levity and hope in our ongoing fight against cancer. I don't care how many so called quacks advertise as long as we are allowed to have our own opinions without interference from self important a**eholes, threatening us every time somone appears to have improved their position. I fully respect the opinions of qualified persons who are involved in our dilemma, but anyone can use a search engine. Do us all a favour and go enjoy someone else's misery. Marty from Oz > Ah, so "J" really IS the idiotic "Dr." Stephen Barrett. Your blustering > prose sounded like it. How come you don't sign your name anymore? Has it [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >> request >> made by telephone by a newspaper reporter in Arizona. > Ah, so "J" really IS the idiotic "Dr." Stephen Barrett. Your blustering > prose sounded like it. How come you don't sign your name anymore? Has it > just become too embarrassing? Too much of a liability? Howard, J is not Dr. Barrett. In fact she is not a doctor. She is a great supporter and hugger. But we love her anyway. Jerry > . She is a great supporter > and hugger. But we love her anyway. What the hell does that mean? Get "real", Jerry. I do more than that. I am also interfering with his income. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.cancer/msg/01f2fe9f7c22e90c After the clinical trial, ask his State Attorney General to investigate. http://naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php For now, shut him down (like I suggested) by reporting him to his ISP. J > > . She is a great supporter > > and hugger. But we love her anyway. > > What the hell does that mean? > Get "real", Jerry. > I do more than that. I am also (trying to) save lives, in case you didn't notice, Jerry. J >> > . She is a great supporter >> > and hugger. But we love her anyway. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I am also (trying to) save lives, in case you didn't notice, Jerry. > J I think Jerry was trying to support you.. Merry Xmas...Alex >>> . She is a great supporter >>> and hugger. But we love her anyway. >> >> What the hell does that mean? I thought I was being supportive. You may need to lighten up a bit. >> Get "real", Jerry. >> I do more than that. > > I am also (trying to) save lives, in case you didn't notice, Jerry. > J I am well aware of what you do. Jerry > Jerry wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > What the hell does that mean? > Get "real", Jerry. I think that was uncalled for J. I saw Jerry's response as supportive, nothing else. I also don't like posts re "alternative" cures. My killfile takes care of them tho' except for the quoted replies. Unfortunately I also believe that everyone has a choice - accepted treatment or alternative. Please don't turn this group into a war-zone ;) Alf |
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