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Emily - 22 Dec 2004 21:17 GMT
Mother had her plate removed today in Guy's hospital.  It was
originally inserted by the jaw a year ago (I think) and over
the next few months gradually started to AWOL until recently
it was halfway up her cheek, causing her all sorts of
interesting problems.  Anyway, it was removed, and when I
phoned this evening I was told that although she was still
bleeding she was nontheless sleeping and presumably therefore
almost vaguely comfortable.  So, folks, this Christmas will be
her second whereat she is reduced to eating baby food on
account of not being able to bite, chew or even open her mouth
wider than that necessary to insert a flat-bowled weaning
spoon.  What fun :-(
J - 23 Dec 2004 00:17 GMT
> Mother had her plate removed today in Guy's hospital.  It was
> originally inserted by the jaw a year ago (I think) and over
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> wider than that necessary to insert a flat-bowled weaning
> spoon.  What fun :-(

I'm sorry to read that mother's having to go through that again, Emily.
Hugs
J
Emily - 23 Dec 2004 01:23 GMT
somebody@nobdoyto.contact said...
> So, folks, this Christmas will be
> > her second whereat she is reduced to eating baby food on
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I'm sorry to read that mother's having to go through that again, Emily.

At least this time she had the sense to take some jars of baby
deserts in with her; last year she was given the most
unbelievable slop imaginable - and was expected to actually
/eat/ it.  Ugh!  The silly thing is, she won't make a fuss and
she won't let me make one either.  *Sigh* she's daft.  The
plate's been bothering her enough that it's a good thing it's
been removed, and she's due to be reviewed tomorrow morning by
the doctors so she may even be home for Christmas Eve.  BTW,
mother's given me permission to name her, as long as we use
her middle name rather than her first, so in future I'll refer
to her as Florence, which she acquired because it was her
mother's name.
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J - 23 Dec 2004 08:44 GMT
> At least this time she had the sense to take some jars of baby
> deserts in with her; last year she was given the most
> unbelievable slop imaginable - and was expected to actually
> /eat/ it.  Ugh!

Yes, I remember you describing it last year. Ugh!
I was going to say "well, this time she's already had practice at it", but I
was worried that you'd be offended.

> The silly thing is, she won't make a fuss and
> she won't let me make one either.  *Sigh* she's daft.

I'm sure it's frustrating, but eventually you'll think of something that will
help and she'll accept.
Wasn't it your idea about the weaning spoon ?

> The
> plate's been bothering her enough that it's a good thing it's
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> to her as Florence, which she acquired because it was her
> mother's name.

Thanks Em, I'm hoping I remember. But if you and Alayne get to chatting,
don't be surprised if I interrupt to ask "who is Florence?" (I lost some
memory brain cells this summer and cannot find them ;-)
Daft or not, here's hoping she'll be released on time for Christmas.

> I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see
> me as a dire warning.

I've been forgetting to tell you that I like your signature. :-)
Hugs Emily,
J
Emily - 24 Dec 2004 00:41 GMT
somebody@nobdoyto.contact said...

> > At least this time she had the sense to take some jars of baby
> > deserts in with her; last year she was given the most
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I was going to say "well, this time she's already had practice at it", but I
> was worried that you'd be offended.

No, I wouldn't be offended, and I don't think mother would be
either.  Mother and I are very similar in a lot of ways (but
don't tell my husband that I admitted it!) and one such is
that we both take medical emergencies and catastrophes in our
stride.  I'm far more likely to panic over tiny things that
wouldn't upset 'normal' people; illness is just part of life.  
Also, although she's my mother and I'm therefore concerned
about her, she and I aren't as close as many parents and
children are.  I'm the same with my elder daughter for some
reason.

> > The silly thing is, she won't make a fuss and
> > she won't let me make one either.  *Sigh* she's daft.
>
> I'm sure it's frustrating, but eventually you'll think of something that will
> help and she'll accept.
> Wasn't it your idea about the weaning spoon ?

Yes, good point.  That and the baby food.  Hopefully, however,
she won't be needing them...

> > The
> > plate's been bothering her enough that it's a good thing it's
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> don't be surprised if I interrupt to ask "who is Florence?" (I lost some
> memory brain cells this summer and cannot find them ;-)

Wherever they went, they didn't come here.  In fact I strongly
suspect that some of mine have gone AWOL as well.  Perhaps
they've all gone on holiday together?  Let's hope they have a
good time and come back soon, refreshed.

> Daft or not, here's hoping she'll be released on time for Christmas.

She's already home, much to her surprise.  Apart from being
careful not to bite on  the side with the broken tooth (she
tripped a couple of weeks ago and damaged a tooth on the
opposite side from the operation site) she reports that
although it's sore and the dribbling is inconvenient she is at
least able to open her mouth properly and is therefore able to
eat.  She usually goes to her husband's family for Christmas
day - hopefully she'll be able to go on Saturday as planned
and maybe even join in with everyone else with the food.

> > I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see
> > me as a dire warning.
>
> I've been forgetting to tell you that I like your signature. :-)
> Hugs Emily,

Thanks <g>  I've given it a short break for now however in
favour of a more seasonal offering.
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Alayne - 23 Dec 2004 09:34 GMT
> Mother had her plate removed today in Guy's hospital.  It was
> originally inserted by the jaw a year ago (I think) and over
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> wider than that necessary to insert a flat-bowled weaning
> spoon.  What fun :-(

Oh Em, sorry to hear that about Florence and at this time of year too with
all the goodies abound.  She got through it once so at least she knows the
score this time.  And yes, I agree with you about the liquidised meals
(having served them for four years ;-) perhaps it's time for tasty childhood
treats like jelly and ice-cream??

Warm Hugs

Alayne

p.s.  Sorry had to say it - but the lengths some people go to avoid your
cooking :o)
J - 23 Dec 2004 09:45 GMT
>  I agree with you about the liquidised meals
> (having served them for four years ;-)

That reminds me, I tried liquidizing a salad last summer (just for an
experiment).
It was gross and disgusting tasting. :( <g>

> p.s.  Sorry had to say it - but the lengths some people go to avoid your
> cooking :o)

LOL
Hugs to you both,
J
Alayne - 23 Dec 2004 10:33 GMT
> >  I agree with you about the liquidised meals
> > (having served them for four years ;-)
>
> That reminds me, I tried liquidizing a salad last summer (just for an
> experiment).
> It was gross and disgusting tasting. :( <g>

Strange experiments that you do J ;-), was there any particular reasoning
behind this??  Intrigued.

> > p.s.  Sorry had to say it - but the lengths some people go to avoid your
> > cooking :o)
>
> LOL
> Hugs to you both,
> J

Warm Hugs returned to you J and Peaceful Seasonal Greetings.
Emily - 24 Dec 2004 00:50 GMT
somebody@nobdoyto.contact said...
> >  I agree with you about the liquidised meals
> > (having served them for four years ;-)
>
> That reminds me, I tried liquidizing a salad last summer (just for an
> experiment).
> It was gross and disgusting tasting. :( <g>

Err, yes.  Umm.  It's called gazpacho soup.  Or something like
that.  I never could quite get my head around the idea of cold
soup :-)
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J - 24 Dec 2004 01:52 GMT
> somebody@nobdoyto.contact said...
> > >  I agree with you about the liquidised meals
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> that.  I never could quite get my head around the idea of cold
> soup :-)

Well, it was cold and mushy, but I didn't know about soup. It was just
lettuce, carrots and other vegges, mushed up.
<g>

By the way, a person who does not read this newsgroup, so has no idea about
your mother, just send me this joke.

This guy goes into his dentist's office, because something is wrong with
his mouth. After a brief examination, the dentist exclaims, "Holy Smoke!
That plate I installed in your mouth about six months ago has nearly
completely corroded! What on earth have you been eating?"

"Well... the only thing I can think of is this... my wife made me some
asparagus about four months ago with this stuff on it... Hollandaise sauce
she called it... and doctor, I'm talkin' DELICIOUS!  I've never tasted
anything like it, and ever since then I've been putting it on everything...
meat, fish, toast, vegetables... you name it!"

"That's probably it," replied the dentist "Hollandaise sauce is made with
lemon juice, which is acidic and highly corrosive. It seems as thought I'll
have to install a new plate, but made out of chrome this time."

"Why chrome?" the man asked.

"Well, everyone knows that there's no plate like chrome for the
Hollandaise!"
Alf - 24 Dec 2004 12:39 GMT
> "Well, everyone knows that there's no plate like chrome for the
> Hollandaise!"

Gerrrerofff!

Alf

A very Merry Christmas to Emily & Mum, J, all lurkers, Quacks and
everything you wish yourself for 2005.
Emily - 24 Dec 2004 19:54 GMT
somebody@nobdoyto.contact said...
> "Well, everyone knows that there's no plate like chrome for the
> Hollandaise!"

Arrrghhh!  LOL!!
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Emily - 24 Dec 2004 19:58 GMT
somebody@nobdoyto.contact said...
> Well, it was cold and mushy, but I didn't know about soup. It was just
> lettuce, carrots and other vegges, mushed up.

Actually, gazpacho is an actual thingummajig, apparently from
Spain.  Here's a recipe, which I must say doesn't appeal to me
in the least, because IMO soups should be served *hot*.

8 ripe tomatoes
1 green bell pepper
1 red bell pepper
1 cucumber
1 slice of bread
1/4 cup olive oil
dash of vinager
dash of salt
dash of pepper

Mix all ingredients together in a blender till smooth.
Add water to taste.
Garnish with sliced cucumbers or chopped green pepper.
Serve cold.

Brrrr!
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J - 24 Dec 2004 21:11 GMT
> Actually, gazpacho i<snip>
> Serve cold.
>
> Brrrr!

Well, Emily that sounds tasty. I saved it, thanks.

I can picture a submarine sandwich (or bagel), open face with cheese on it,
toasted in the oven, then some gazpacho on top.
(different kind of "pizza") - served hot.

Another option would be a bit less olive oil and serve as a side dish to a
pasta dinner.
Thanks for that.
Hugs
J
Emily - 24 Dec 2004 00:48 GMT
totallyfake@emailaddress.com said...
> Alayne
>
> p.s.  Sorry had to say it - but the lengths some people go to avoid your
> cooking :o)

ROFL!!  My elder daughter (she's nearly 15) has already
insisted on doing the cooking on Saturday.  A couple of years
ago we had an Indian takeaway which we collected on Christmas
Eve and heated up for Chrimbledins, and it was lovely.  I'd
been rather hoping we could do the same again this year, but
'tis not to be.  Madam cooked last year and made a pretty good
job of it, so we'll probably let her do something this year as
well.  One of the reasons I can't be bothered is that it
doesn't seem to matter what I cook - one by one my darling
offspring tell me "I don't liiike it" in a very whiny voice.  
When I've got to the point of wanting to strangle them I find
I've also more or less got to the point where I can't be
bothered to eat it myself.
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Jill - 23 Dec 2004 15:39 GMT
> Mother had her plate removed today in Guy's hospital.  It was
> originally inserted by the jaw a year ago (I think) and over
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> wider than that necessary to insert a flat-bowled weaning
> spoon.  What fun :-(

Emily,
I'm sorry to hear that about Mom. My best to you, sweetie.
Big Jill Hugs.
 
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