Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / December 2004
Cancer cure
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Jim - 22 Dec 2004 15:34 GMT Hi Everyone! Do you think the medical companies are interested in cheap treatments that cure and that everone can get themselves? Or do they want to make more and more money so they can survive in a competing market?
There seems to be cures. It?s about getting the body back to balance.
This website has some interesting information: http://educate-yourself.org/
Steph - 22 Dec 2004 16:03 GMT > Hi Everyone! Do you think the medical companies are interested in cheap > treatments that cure and that everone can get themselves? Or do they want > to > make more and more money so they can survive in a competing market? > > There seems to be cures. It?s about getting the body back to balance. It's about getting reality back into balance
Alan B. Mac Farlane - 22 Dec 2004 18:11 GMT >> There seems to be cures. It´s about getting the body back to balance. > > It's about getting reality back into balance two sides of the same coin ...
imo and all that rot ...
:) john - 22 Dec 2004 16:24 GMT > This website has some interesting information: http://educate-yourself.org/ Yes, excellent source of information
J - 22 Dec 2004 16:32 GMT > Hi Everyone! Do you think the medical companies are interested in cheap > treatments that cure and that everone can get themselves? Or do they want to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > This website has some interesting information: http://educate-yourself.org/ bs website, not even worth exploring J
Alan B. Mac Farlane - 22 Dec 2004 18:06 GMT well ... noooo there is no cure for cancer ... once the psychoimmune system is compromised one has cancer for the rest of their lives ... and for long term cancer survivors .. they each have something different that is working for each of them ... but they all have the same 'song' as it were ...
for cancer survivors to hang out with long termers ... listen to the choirs of the song in being with them in a group --- see what your song is that is inside of you ... and then join the choirs as it were ... with your own song that is working for you ...
been doing this myself for 30 years or so now ... there are other long term cancer survivors who have been around for 50 years and so ... and I look to them for getting some wood up my spine.
sumbuddie who cares
:)
> Hi Everyone! Do you think the medical companies are interested in cheap > treatments that cure and that everone can get themselves? Or do they want to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > This website has some interesting information: http://educate-yourself.org/ J - 23 Dec 2004 08:09 GMT > well ... noooo there is no cure for cancer ... Your type of cancer (thyroid) is usually curable. I can tell that you don't read (or retain) info that Steph posts with comments like yours (above).
> once the psychoimmune system ????
> is compromised one has cancer for the rest of their lives ... and for long > term cancer survivors .. they each have something different that is working [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > cancer survivors who have been around for 50 years and so ... and I look to > them for getting some wood up my spine. This is good to read (last paragraph). J
Alan B. Mac Farlane - 23 Dec 2004 14:17 GMT > Your type of cancer (thyroid) is usually curable. > I can tell that you don't read (or retain) info that Steph posts with comments > like yours (above). its foolish to think cancer is cured in anyone ...
the psychoimmune system is compromised and once a person lets go of what was making them well in setting their sails to the wind differently and tacking a healthier course ... they switch back to the old ways of doing life and they die ... seen it enough times ... Steph is a bit small minded about this right now is my IMO ... and there is no spiritual profit to carry on with Steph on the matter. So I leave it alone ... Steph will find the error soon enough ... think of Darwin ... weeding out the low emotional IQ people from the high emotional IQ people. Accentuate the positive ... look on the bright side ...
sumbuddie who cares
:) Steph - 23 Dec 2004 16:29 GMT >> Your type of cancer (thyroid) is usually curable. >> I can tell that you don't read (or retain) info that Steph posts with >> comments >> like yours (above). > > its foolish to think cancer is cured in anyone ... No, it is foolish to think otherwise, especially when your theories are based on psychobabble
bj - 23 Dec 2004 23:35 GMT I'm curious -- how do you define "cured"? bj
>> in article 41CA7D40.14DC034C@execulink.com, J at >> somebody@nobdoyto.contact [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > No, it is foolish to think otherwise, especially when your theories are > based on psychobabble Alan B. Mac Farlane - 24 Dec 2004 00:54 GMT this has to be questioned to Steph and not to Alan ... as Alan says that cancer is never cured and must always be attended to and watched out over to keep the healing magic going ... until such time as when all the good stuf stops working and the cancer doubles every day ... like it used to ... or old age gets the party boy ...
take two aspirine and call me ...
sumbuddie who cares.
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> I'm curious -- how do you define "cured"? > bj [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> No, it is foolish to think otherwise, especially when your theories are >> based on psychobabble Steph - 24 Dec 2004 02:38 GMT > I'm curious -- how do you define "cured"? > bj Well if you are a 54 year old man with a T2 larynx cancer, and I get rid of it with radiotherapy, and you die aged 87 from a heart attack, with no evidence of the cancer, are you cured?
Alan B. Mac Farlane - 24 Dec 2004 00:51 GMT >> its foolish to think cancer is cured in anyone ... > > No, it is foolish to think otherwise, especially when your theories are > based on psychobabble angry ... angry ... angry ...
cuase you live in fear, fear, fear ...
if you are cured of cancer ... no need to deal with it anymore ...
have a great life ...
sumbuddie luvs ya anyway
:) J - 24 Dec 2004 01:46 GMT > >> its foolish to think cancer is cured in anyone ... > > > > No, it is foolish to think otherwise, especially when your theories are > > based on psychobabble > > if you are cured of cancer ... no need to deal with it anymore ... Steph is a doctor and radiation oncologist, with a vast amount of experience, expertise and common sense and a very valuable resource to this newsgroup. Please do not be disrespectful to him.
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Steph - 24 Dec 2004 02:39 GMT >> in article MnCyd.548000$Pl.307244@pd7tw1no, Steph at >> steph@vancouver.island [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > expertise and common sense and a very valuable resource to this newsgroup. > Please do not be disrespectful to him. I don't deserve any more respect than anyone else (except the loonies) , but I deserve as much as anyone else (except the loonies)
Simm Webb - 24 Dec 2004 03:37 GMT Dear Steph,
I am writing this letter to you with blessings and love in my heart. I beat Cancer this past year, and after a couple of stent surgeries, I have been getting better. I have met quite a few people at Church who also beat the death sentence, and we have been expanding. This we can blame on Doctors like you. I must write to you and express my appreciation. The following is the musings of Santa Claus, who is quite busy this year. He spent 3 days at Fairview Hospital outside of Cleveland, Ohio. This was a first for him, but as he explains it, he was a patient twice during the year, and, because of the wonderful staff, floor people, and volunteers, it was payback time. Weather prohibited him from visiting on Thursday and Friday.
On Monday, I entered with such a huge sack, I needed a wheel chair to wheel it to the Pediatric Emergency where I was stationed for this week. As I entered, I was greeted by a very excited 4 year old boy whose sister was having breathing problems. I reached into my bag, and got a game for the boy, and went in to visit the girl. She was pale, scared, and trembling. I talked to her for a few minutes, and reached in and gave her a stuffed reindeer. The sad face immediately smiled. In an hour I visited her, and was relieved to see quite a lot of color in her face. She was going to go home, but at the last minute, they decided to admit her over night. As I spoke to her, she asked if her Mother could stay with her. I exclaimed that I couldn't say NO, but I would check with the nurse, I went back and said "Of course". Little brother was excited, cause Santa would visit them this afternoon. This began a slow line of patients who came sad, and left happy with a toy and Candy cane. At lunch, I went through the cafeteria, and walked into the dining area, and after looking over the room, I spotted a 4 year old with her Grandmother. I walked up to them and asked if I could join them for lunch. You have seldom seen a face light up so quickly, and brightly. She had a story to tell to her family that evening. The rest of the day went routine, except for a visit to the Pediatric Area. Of course I was welcome, and with only 3 patients, I only spent an hour with them. Back to Ped ER to find a full house. I visited children, and seniors, since the two areass adjoined. I met ladies who were ill, and was able to bring some smiles from them. Of course, the one lady who had just been diagnosed, mentioned it to me, and was overwhelmed when I told her that I had been the curse. We talked for quite some time, and now she has a positive outlook on the future for herself. Tuesday was the dull feverish pitched of activity, but during the day I met several physicians who treated me during the past year. It was a friendly and joyful reunion. I did mention that I would be back on Christmas morning to get an IV of 15000 units of insulin. The ER Doctor stood up and asked what for. I told him it was necessary to counteract the cookies and milk I would eat and drink during the night. They loved that comment.
Yesterday, began slowly, but picked up and my bag of presents was getting lighter by the hour. After lunch, I was rushed up to Neo Natal. Words cannot begin to describe the thrill to Santa to pick up and pose with newborns between 4 and 16 hours old. This put me into a high which could never be matched by any pill you have in your pharmacy. I also have to mention that I have 39,748 muscles in my body. How do I know? Each and every one of them singularly and collectively ache. . .
Meanwhile, this has been the best Christmas week in my life, and like I told my oncologist Tuesday, I couldn't be here if it wasn't for him. I wish you blessings and happiness this Christmas, and may you find a new reliable treatment for the Curse. I will do my best to work witih and consul people who are afraid of the unknown, and hope that God himself notices it. \
Well, HO HO HO, and all my love,
>I don't deserve any more respect than anyone else (except the loonies) , but >I deserve as much as anyone else (except the loonies) Grateful to be back.
Eddie MD OTF
Steph - 24 Dec 2004 03:46 GMT Simon, Happy Christmas and give 'em hell for many more years
Alan B. Mac Farlane - 22 Dec 2004 18:10 GMT Oh .. detoxing the body, dumping the liver/gallbladder, 30,000 units of antioxidants a day, veggie basic diet, get off the fire foods like caffine, alcohol, and tobacco ... and medical marijuana seems to have cancer fighting properties like tomatoes with lycopene and other foods are of help. Brocolli sprouts are good sources as well. Getting the bitter salty tears out of the brainpain that makes up the toxic personality and toxic body has much to do with cancer onset and cancer progression is my IMO. That and refusing to live in fear ... must live in love and do the work on the inside to put the love inside where all the contempt, fear, anger, resentment, bitterness, judgement, criticism, and expectation is ... and live in the love.
After five months of love inside this and that ... I got tired of it and started to put in peace, joy, enthuasism, happy and sparkly.
sumbuddie who cares
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> Hi Everyone! Do you think the medical companies are interested in cheap > treatments that cure and that everone can get themselves? Or do they want to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > This website has some interesting information: http://educate-yourself.org/ J - 23 Dec 2004 08:07 GMT > Oh .. detoxing the body, dumping the liver/gallbladder, 30,000 units of > antioxidants a day, veggie basic diet, get off the fire foods like caffine, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > bitterness, judgement, criticism, and expectation is ... and live in the > love. Tbere's a mix of nonsense info and good advice in your post. Have a read about marijuana http://www.wctu.org/marijuana_-_cancer.html IMO J
Alan B. Mac Farlane - 23 Dec 2004 14:12 GMT > Tbere's a mix of nonsense info and good advice in your post. > Have a read about marijuana hey J ...
thanks for letting me know about your judgement ...
iyam a 30 year survivor of malignant metastatic sarcoma ...
bastards and bitches do best ...
sumbuddie luvs ya anyway.
;)
Simm Webb - 22 Dec 2004 22:31 GMT With writing and logic which definitely challenges pulp supermarket magazines, you almost make yourself funny.
>Hi Everyone! Do you think the medical companies are interested in cheap >treatments that cure and that everone can get themselves? Or do they want to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >This website has some interesting information: http://brainwash-yourself.org/ Grateful to be back.
Eddie MD OTF
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